Do Christians do what is right?

[IraBenYahweh]

what is sin?

If I lie am I a lier?

If I steal something am I a thief?

If I kill some one am I a murderer?

If take someone else wife or husband am I a adulterer?

If I stand silent when someone is falsly accused am I a lyer?

If look away while my friend takes something am I a thief?

If I hate some one am I a muderer?

If I look in lust am I a adulterer?

If I allow a lier to lie what am I?

If I allow a freind to steal what am I?

If I allow some one to kill what am I?

If I allow someone to hate what am I?

Should I speak up for what is right?

When should I speak up for what is right?

This next year many of you will vote most of you will vote vote for either a democrat or a republican which ever you feel is closest to what you feel is most important? If you think abortion laws are the most important you might vote republican. If Jobs are more important you might vote democrat. Truth of the mater is this Bible says you cant serve two masters either you love one and hate the other or love the other and hate the one, If I steal something i am a thief if I let my friend steal something and dont tell them "hey thats wrong" Im not much better than a thief. If you vote for the lesser of two evils you are still voting evil. You are taking part in a evil action. It would be better if you did not vote at all then to vote for a lesser evil. I will not tell you how to vote. what I will do is show you this site it is the has links to the myspaces of all the 08 canidates. You search it out http://impact.myspace.com/ All I care about is that YOU DO WHAT IS RIGHT IN THE SITE OF GOD NO MATER WHAT. as much for what is right as what i think he does I am asking you to do what is right when and if you go to a voting bothe this next year

I am also including this letter i sent to a pastor who write for News With Views web paper

What I am about to say you may find very ofensive, but becuase of the

position you are in and I am not I think it needs to be said You have a

listening audience and I do not. I will not cuss at you or anything like

that BUT I will ask you some very hard questions that make you very very

angry at me, and that is ok with me.

1st Do you have any teaching that some sin is ok? Is abortion every right

for any reason type thing. If you can see that sometimes sin is the corect

thing to do. Such as abortion is ok if the woman was raped. Then I ask you

the next question.

2nd If you are ok with some forms of sin are you truly a believer in the

biblical truth of Jesus Christ? Is the bible the inerrant word of God? Do

you fallow the scripture to the best of your ability?

3rd I will assume that you are very angry by now but the answer to the 2nd

line of questioning was all yes If it was no to any of those questions I

then I guess it is best to disreguard this whole letter. But saying it was

you do agree with all staments above in questions 2 I move to 3 Voting

for the lesser of evils is not right. anyone that can call themselves a

republican or democrat should automaticly be disqualified from a

christians ability to vote for them. To vote for the lesser of 2 or 3

evils is still suporting evil. To suport evil in any format is wrong I am

sure that God is black and white when it comes to doing the right thing

every time. My point is this If you are a true bible believing man that

believes in ALL biblcal truth, I would rather vote for you then the other

primary canidates. I dont care if by voting for you or some one like you

is waisting my vote to most people. I am out to do the right thing and

please God. I dont care what any man thinks about it. If a person can

honstly set aside some of thier christian ethics to vote for some one that

has one or more things that are against biblical truth I would honestly

ask them are you truly a christian, are you sure of your salvation? To

vote for a lesser evil is the only way I can see that we truly throw away

our vote. So I believe that we should vote with our conscience. And that

might just mean that we vote for some one who more than likely will loose

but at least we did the right thing before the only one who makes a

difference. I encourage you sir to pray about this heavly. Can you in

good conscience suport a man that does not suport God all the way to the

last action he makes. Please sir consider where you are leading your

readers. Please take a stand for truth. I am sure there is one guy that is

going to run this next election who is a honnest sincere Believer in Jesus

Christ.

In my research of canidates for this election and tracking down the offical websites from myspace I found one that stood a little more hard line for Christian Values and ethics and the Constitution of this country even saying that faith belongs in politics that may make some of you mad but you need to relize that seperation of Church and state was never consitutional it was in a letter please forgive me i forgot the author of that letter it was for sure one of the founding fathers of the US But seperation of Church and state means that government should not control Chruchs it does not mean though that we as believers should not Control government In another post as soon as I get it ready you will see how Gods system would work versus what we currently have and I dont mean a theocrasy that is later. I mean a bible believing system that is run in a way to glorfy God and have a few freedoms left at the same time.

I hope and pray that by the time you read this that you all will either hate me or you are ready to do what is right not in my eyes or yours but Gods

No man is perfect but Christ especialy politcians but this guy as near as I can tell is as close and a non deity human can get believe me if Jesus was runin I would vote for him cuz he is perfect but since hes not I will take a regular dude who says God first as much as any human can

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/index.cfm?Fuse...&Issue_id=9

Edited August 28, 2007 by IraBenYahweh

[EricH]

In terms of advise regarding where we should place our hope in terms of changin people's hearts, I think Jesus' idea still stands:

"Caesar's," they said to Him. Then He said to them, "Therefore, give back to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."

Matthew 22:9 HCSB

[IraBenYahweh]

Hope is a Christian beliefe in things unsean in others you can really only have hope for those things that God has lead you to or to do with faith building This has nothing to do with hope IT is more about being obiedant to the word of God no matter what.

If you can honstly belive that voting for Mr Rudy or Mrs Clinton is a obedient thing to the cuase for christ then do it. But I am implying that we can do better. And I am going to tell you what the country is more like Sadom and Gamorah The few Christians that we have in this counrty seam pasfied with sitting and saying Lord await your return Please Lord this world is bad. How many Christians today are lieraly saying Lord we are scared our country hates you as a general please Lord heal our land. The bible never says sit and wait for HIS return. And those that do I wonder if they are false converts or not. So I believe in doing the write thing Christians need to strive for Gods wisdom and not there own. So that is why I placed this here

Do you have the courage to do whats right in the eyes of God or are you a coward so you do what is popluar in the eyes of man

In terms of advise regarding where we should place our hope in terms of changin people's hearts, I think Jesus' idea still stands:

"Caesar's," they said to Him. Then He said to them, "Therefore, give back to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."

Matthew 22:9 HCSB

[Zadok Rox]

I like this one quote I heard and it's one we all need to heed (especially me): "Jesus isn't coming back on an elephant nor is He coming back on a donkey."

All I can say without telling somebody how to vote is pray for God's will regarding who to vote for in the primaries and the elections (btw, get involved in the primaries in your area).

[EricH]

Hope is a Christian beliefe in things unsean in others you can really only have hope for those things that God has lead you to or to do with faith building This has nothing to do with hope IT is more about being obiedant to the word of God no matter what.

If you can honstly belive that voting for Mr Rudy or Mrs Clinton is a obedient thing to the cuase for christ then do it. But I am implying that we can do better. And I am going to tell you what the country is more like Sadom and Gamorah The few Christians that we have in this counrty seam pasfied with sitting and saying Lord await your return Please Lord this world is bad. How many Christians today are lieraly saying Lord we are scared our country hates you as a general please Lord heal our land. The bible never says sit and wait for HIS return. And those that do I wonder if they are false converts or not. So I believe in doing the write thing Christians need to strive for Gods wisdom and not there own. So that is why I placed this here

Do you have the courage to do whats right in the eyes of God or are you a coward so you do what is popluar in the eyes of man

In terms of advise regarding where we should place our hope in terms of changin people's hearts, I think Jesus' idea still stands:

"Caesar's," they said to Him. Then He said to them, "Therefore, give back to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."

Matthew 22:9 HCSB

I'm confused, Ira, are you saying we shouldn't vote at all?

EricH, im also confused as to what you mean by that verse? The way i have been taught to read that verse, it doesn't quite make sense to me. I have been taught to read that as Jesus inciting quiet riot throughout his followers and to the Pharisees who asked him the question. He is quoting the Macabees who said "Give to ceasar what is ceasar's" in a very violent meaning. He is not telling his diciples to violently act out against ceasar, but to rebel against him and follow the Teachings of Christ. The pharisees, being jewish, would know this, and would (and did) become enraged. But if they told ceasar, it would just seem as Jesus was telling them to pay taxes. Its a double meaning, and Jesus was great at it

To me this passage teaches that there are 2 kingdoms. One is our secular government. We give them what is due them. The other is God's kingdom. We give Him what is due Him. Where we get into trouble is when we try to achieve things using the secular government, that only God can achieve through His kingdom

[IraBenYahweh]

Zadox Rox Please understand I am not TELLING any one who to vote for. Just that we NEED to do whats right by biblical standard.

What is the difference between lying stealing and murdering or opting to put some one as the head of this counrty who does thoughs things.

TO thoughtfull

I am saying that if you can not vote for any one in the next election and have a completly clear conscience for ALL that they stand for dont vote for them even if It means not voting at all. But I will also say there is a christian running all the issues he stands for Christs ethics. For instance He says that this country should stand with Isreal no mater what. That is a XTREEMLY important issue considering the war on terror isue. So again vote for some one who you can vote for and KNOW that you could go before God and God would not be able to say "Why did you DO this?" Put all your Christian ethics first and then find a person to vote for. JESUS FIRST JESUS WILL FOR OUR LIVES

[kari21]

If I lie am I a lier?

If I steal something am I a thief?

If I hate some one am I a muderer?

If I look in lust am I a adulterer?

Who hasn't lied, or stolen something, or hated someone, or looked at someone with lust?

We are all guilty under the law. God said if we are guilty of even one transgression of the law, we are guilty of breaking it ALL.

No politician is blameless....but then again, neither are you or me.

[Guest]

or are you a coward

I'm A Coward

Sweet Talking Brother

You Have A Unique Way Of Gaining Votes For The Presidential Candidate Of Your Choice.

Think You'll Have Much Success Selling This Fellow By Calling Our Beloved Brother A Coward.

Unless Of Course, You Are Really Working For The Other Guy.

I Have Been Voting Since The First Year I Was Allowed To Vote.

You See, In The Far Far Dim Past In The USA You Had To Be 21 Or Older To Vote.

After I Had Served Four Years In The USN I Was Finally Allowed.

So I Voted For Barry Goldwater (1964).

However My First Political Campaign Was As A Kid When I Worked In 1952 To Get Dwight David Eisenhower Elected President.

Ike Was My Commander-In-Chief My First Year In The Navy.

How Cool Was That!

In My Heart I Truly Believe There Is No King But King Jesus.

Daily I Pray For His Rule Upon Earth.

As For Dragon Killing And Such, Coward That I Am, I'll Just Hide Behind My Lord....

Old Michael

Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Jude 1:9

My LORD

And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

Zechariah 3:1-2

Have Fun In The Elections.

Pray For The Peace Of Jerusalem

Keep Your Sense Of Humor You Are Going To Need It.

Keep The Faith.

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

Philippians 4:8

Be Blessed Beloved

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them.

Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

[IraBenYahweh]

Zadox Rox Please understand I am not TELLING any one who to vote for. Just that we NEED to do whats right by biblical standard.

What is the difference between lying stealing and murdering or opting to put some one as the head of this counrty who does thoughs things.

TO thoughtfull

I am saying that if you can not vote for any one in the next election and have a completly clear conscience for ALL that they stand for dont vote for them even if It means not voting at all. But I will also say there is a christian running all the issues he stands for Christs ethics. For instance He says that this country should stand with Isreal no mater what. That is a XTREEMLY important issue considering the war on terror isue. So again vote for some one who you can vote for and KNOW that you could go before God and God would not be able to say "Why did you DO this?" Put all your Christian ethics first and then find a person to vote for. JESUS FIRST JESUS WILL FOR OUR LIVES

Ira, you are saying that if i cant vote for anyone in the next election and have a completely clear conscience for all that they stand for then dont vote for them, even if it means not voting at all. Ira, i can tell you, there is not going to be a canidate to ever run in any year that either myself or you will agree with fully. Maybe there are Christians that will run, and maybe during their campaign they will make great promises and speak of how convicted they are. But let me remind you of our current president, who in his first election promised such things, made his alliance with Christianity known and understood. And look where it has taken us. We've been at war with Iraq since 2003, trying to 1) Overthrow a tyrant, 2) Find Osama Bin Laden, 3) Set up a democracy in a country where democracy can never live. The country has been and always will be what it started out to be. So we got rid of Saddam. Ok, great, there's still millions of people who live in that country who will go on living the way they were raised. Let me also remind you of Ted Haggard. While he claimed to be a great man of God, and yes, did help many come to Christ, in the end, he didnt stand for what he claimed. So are you saying that the people who put Haggard into his position must one day stand before God and answer why? No. Inevitably, because of the way republicans have looked in the past 8 years, we will probably have a democratic president. I cant say that for sure, but it doesnt look good for republicans. So if and when we do get a president whom you dont stand for, and you didnt vote, will you still complain? Will you complain about what an awful job the new president is doing, simply because you didnt agree with what he stood for? If you didnt' vote, how could you complain? Even if there isn't a canidate whom we can fully support, as christians, we must vote. We must decide who will do the best job of running our country. Who will make the best diplomatic decisions. Who will get us out of the mess we've made in Iraq? I dont think God cares who you vote for. I dont think when Judgement Day comes that "Political Party" will be on God's checklist. We must vote for who we think will do the best job, not who the best christian is. I think voting based on religion principles is foolish.

You missed the point

If The Canidate is a lyer and you believe that lye you are not at falt. As far as bushes war on Iraq I suport it fully becuase I also suport Isreal.

At the exact time you vote if you are voting with conscience then that means you are doing the best you can do with what you have it is not your falt that the last canadate lied during election. As far as completly agree with some one you are correct that will more than likly not happen HOWEVER. Would it not be better to do the right thing a vote for a guy that to date has suported Chistianity with his actions?

I dont know who haggard is I am sory no clue as to what you are talking about.

I can honestly tell you this if a person can vote for a democrat they are more than likly a false convert or not a christian at all. Voting pro gay rites is wrong Voting Pro abortion is wrong. And thinking that we only have the democratic party or the republican party to vote for is wrong, keep in mind that the major democrat running is Hillary Clinton to vote for her is to as well have satan take over this country with a welcome mat.

THE POINT YET AGAIN

There is at least one man who is running who stands for these things

Faith

Isreal

Man and Woman marriage

Constitutional rights

I am saying Thoughtful Please be thoughtful of what you do. dont vote for 1 of the 2 who will more than likly win vote for the one that stands for the foundation of this country and the foundation that the bible states is most important. There is almost 20 possible people to vote for right now. and I am going to strait up tell you One of those guys is has God at heart. and if we as believers stand up for what is right and take action now NOW NOW This guy might just win. If you stopped arguing with me and found out who the guy is and then stood up and did what I am doing then we are both taking action

Further if you have the guts to vote for Hillary Clinton with her past and preasant standing such as what they have been and are You need to ask God for a serious Truth encounter.

That woman WILL lead this country to the point where God WILL do something MOVE OVER SADOM AND GOMORAH You havnt seen nothin yet of the rath of God.

And The guy from new york whos name I cant spell I dont think he is any better.

One man stand for God and Country dag nabit and if that is a lye well at least we did the right thing I cant second guess everything I take what the man siad at face value (i would the same for you.) and if he is a lyar then that between him and God not YOU NOT ME becuase we trusted a mans word does not the bible say a mans word is his honor or something simular to that. it does say say what you mean and mean what you say. So take it that is what is going on. Hillary is doing it she means what she says and says what she means. You vote for her you vote for women have rights but unborn do not To vote for her you vote for Homosexuals should have minorty status and are special becuase they are gay.

Last thought

most of us think we are in the end times and frankly that means this either we are the eagle that saves Isreal or we are destroyed. If we are the eagle our next leader needs to be a man of God if we are destroyed then it can be one of the major canadates.

But I am telling you You have a personal Choice to make in wether this you particpate in the distruction of this country or the salvation of it.

I will Choose the a way that makes us stand a chance at being that eagle that saves Isreal

Lot begged God if I can find one person will you spare sadom and gamorah and God said yes.

I WIL BE THAT ONE THAT WAS FOUND WONT YOU???????

[IraBenYahweh]

or are you a coward

I'm A Coward

Sweet Talking Brother

You Have A Unique Way Of Gaining Votes For The Presidential Candidate Of Your Choice.

Think You'll Have Much Success Selling This Fellow By Calling Our Beloved Brother A Coward.

Unless Of Course, You Are Really Working For The Other Guy.

I Have Been Voting Since The First Year I Was Allowed To Vote.

You See, In The Far Far Dim Past In The USA You Had To Be 21 Or Older To Vote.

After I Had Served Four Years In The USN I Was Finally Allowed.

So I Voted For Barry Goldwater (1964).

However My First Political Campaign Was As A Kid When I Worked In 1952 To Get Dwight David Eisenhower Elected President.

Ike Was My Commander-In-Chief My First Year In The Navy.

How Cool Was That!

In My Heart I Truly Believe There Is No King But King Jesus.

Daily I Pray For His Rule Upon Earth.

As For Dragon Killing And Such, Coward That I Am, I'll Just Hide Behind My Lord....

Old Michael

Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Jude 1:9

My LORD

And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

Zechariah 3:1-2

Have Fun In The Elections.

Pray For The Peace Of Jerusalem

Keep Your Sense Of Humor You Are Going To Need It.

Keep The Faith.

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

Philippians 4:8

Be Blessed Beloved

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them.

Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

You missed it.

It was people like you who stood for this country when we needed it. It was people like you who stood for Isreal when they Needed it.

You are a man who serves his country You are a patriot among people who dont realy believe in Patriotism.

You sir were never a coward in the past So I ask you simply this dont pass on a president becuase of you are sure he will loose. How many men do you know went into battle knowing they were going to loose their lives but did it anyway. They were not cowards when they thought they were gonna loose many of them may have lost in those battles.

How Joe Can you take the high road back then and stand for God and Country and then seriously look at takiing the low road becuase you think the best man for the job will loose.

Take the High road again Joe This is a war and the enemy is inside our borders and they want God removed from america today.

I never fot a war Joe like you have. But I do know that the stakes in this battle are just has high as any and every battle you fot for back then.

Joe with Guys like you having a chance to stand for our rights and freedoms just one more time maybe just maybe we stand a chance to get God back in america again.

Mike may loose this election But I trust God that he is the one that God would guide into making this country the great nation is what.

You see Joe I pay some attension to current stuff and leaders things they say and do.

These are a few things that popular leaders are doing in the states and want for this country

10 comandments gone from area's of views

constitution gone

Freedom of speach Gone

Freedom of Religion gone

Marriage Gone

Please those things should be important to you fight to save them.