Bush Impeachment Calls Gather Momentum

[apothanein kerdos]

I wouldn't say that Clinton's was a war on "Christians." Christians, true followers of Christ, do not slaughter innocent babies of any tribe or religion. The people Clinton bombed did such a thing, and instead abused the name of Christ to commit genocidal acts.

were not talking about what was that country, i think somolia or something like that. We were sent into bosnia to kill christians so the muslims could go in and take their land.

All a muslim had to do is accuse a christian of stealing the land, and it could have happend 2 centuries ago, but it didn't matter, and we would have to remove them from the home. Usually this ended up in bloodshed as they retaliated the action.

If christians attacked the muslims for any reason our men were ordered to fire on them and kill them yet when muslims attakced and slaughtered villages, we were under orders to do nothing.

And to think the democrats call what happened in abugraib a atrocity.

The fact remains - there was hard evidence (infallible I would say) that genocide was occurring against the Muslim populace. Just because someone labels himself as "Christian" does not mean he is a Christian. This is the case in Bosnia. "Christian" is more of a cultural word than it is an actual word. True converts don't attack Muslims in genocidal acts...true converts do not retaliate when persecuted.

We cannot justify genocide simply because someone calls himself a Christian. If this were the case, we were wrong for going into Germany. After all, it was Christians (mostly) invading and attacking Jews and secularist.

[Oh Hamburgers!]

President Bush has made some errors (especially in how to win the war), and his social plans haven't always run to perfection, but you gotta remember that it isn't ONLY his responsibility to make things run right. If you have half of congress fighting to make you look bad...they can do that. I truly believe that Bush has had the right idea's in how to run this country...but with so much bias and partisanship...it will be difficult for ANY President in the future...especially if the "impeachment" virus catches on.

I agree that Bush has certaintly done some good for this coutry, and honestly I feel it is a shame that both political parties do whatever it takes to make the other one's time a living hell. This is what I hate about politics, when a genuinely solid idea from one party is hampered just because it was the other party's idea. It is a shame that currently it seems like the branches of government are not cooperating, and I do remember how there was a good deal of cooperation post 9/11 for awhile in order to push things through. But I guess pride and party lines are more important for some people than the overall good of the country

To A.K: I don't really see anything I disagree with in your post, so I won't bother quoting you

To Eliyahuw:

Oh but that is where you are absoultely wrong. In bosnia we were killing christians on the word of a muslim. Christians killing christians. Ask any man that was sent there and they will tell you the same thing.

I think you are confusing a war that had christian casualties with a "war on christianity". If Clinton was actively pushing for a war against christianity, then 75% of this country would have been in trouble.

Again this is where your wrong, islam is the enemy. It is the drive behind the terrorism. Terror is initiated and supported by islam through every mosque in the world.

That's a pretty broad brush you got there! You could paint a barn in 5 strokes with that thing!

Seriously though, if this is a war against Islam, we would be incarcerating muslims in this country, banning mosques, and declaring war on most of the middle east and southeast asia. Basically we would be declaring war on ~15-20% of the world, about 1.1-1.5 billion people.

Besides, you don't need to be a muslim to be a terrorist. Most terrorists in the middle east use their radical version of Islam to justify terrorism, but there is a subtle difference.

So no, it is not a war on Islam. It is a war on Iraq's previous regieme.

Well when it comes between having your head taken by a muslim or killing them, most people will kill the muslim and rightfully so. In fact it is one instance wherethe bible says its ok to kill someone.

If it comes between having my head taken off by a muslim or killing them, I would probably kill the muslim. If it comes between having my head taken off by a christian or killing them, I would probably kill the christian. You are talking about reactionary self-defense. But again, the worth of every life is generally the same. A muslim life isn't any less sacred than a christian life.

[Eliyahuw]

I wouldn't say that Clinton's was a war on "Christians." Christians, true followers of Christ, do not slaughter innocent babies of any tribe or religion. The people Clinton bombed did such a thing, and instead abused the name of Christ to commit genocidal acts.

were not talking about what was that country, i think somolia or something like that. We were sent into bosnia to kill christians so the muslims could go in and take their land.

All a muslim had to do is accuse a christian of stealing the land, and it could have happend 2 centuries ago, but it didn't matter, and we would have to remove them from the home. Usually this ended up in bloodshed as they retaliated the action.

If christians attacked the muslims for any reason our men were ordered to fire on them and kill them yet when muslims attakced and slaughtered villages, we were under orders to do nothing.

And to think the democrats call what happened in abugraib a atrocity.

The fact remains - there was hard evidence (infallible I would say) that genocide was occurring against the Muslim populace. Just because someone labels himself as "Christian" does not mean he is a Christian. This is the case in Bosnia. "Christian" is more of a cultural word than it is an actual word. True converts don't attack Muslims in genocidal acts...true converts do not retaliate when persecuted.

We cannot justify genocide simply because someone calls himself a Christian. If this were the case, we were wrong for going into Germany. After all, it was Christians (mostly) invading and attacking Jews and secularist.

I don't disagree with that but we didn't go in to stop genocide. We just went in and allowed it to continue except in reverse with muslim killing christian. Our men were under orders to only engage christians that fought back.

[Eliyahuw]

I wouldn't say that Clinton's was a war on "Christians." Christians, true followers of Christ, do not slaughter innocent babies of any tribe or religion. The people Clinton bombed did such a thing, and instead abused the name of Christ to commit genocidal acts.

were not talking about what was that country, i think somolia or something like that. We were sent into bosnia to kill christians so the muslims could go in and take their land.

All a muslim had to do is accuse a christian of stealing the land, and it could have happend 2 centuries ago, but it didn't matter, and we would have to remove them from the home. Usually this ended up in bloodshed as they retaliated the action.

If christians attacked the muslims for any reason our men were ordered to fire on them and kill them yet when muslims attakced and slaughtered villages, we were under orders to do nothing.

And to think the democrats call what happened in abugraib a atrocity.

The fact remains - there was hard evidence (infallible I would say) that genocide was occurring against the Muslim populace. Just because someone labels himself as "Christian" does not mean he is a Christian. This is the case in Bosnia. "Christian" is more of a cultural word than it is an actual word. True converts don't attack Muslims in genocidal acts...true converts do not retaliate when persecuted.

We cannot justify genocide simply because someone calls himself a Christian. If this were the case, we were wrong for going into Germany. After all, it was Christians (mostly) invading and attacking Jews and secularist.

I don't disagree with that but we didn't go in to stop genocide. We just went in and allowed it to continue except in reverse with muslim killing christian. Our men were under orders to only engage christians that fought back.

For me, a American life is worth far more than a muslim life any day.

[apothanein kerdos]

I wouldn't say that Clinton's was a war on "Christians." Christians, true followers of Christ, do not slaughter innocent babies of any tribe or religion. The people Clinton bombed did such a thing, and instead abused the name of Christ to commit genocidal acts.

were not talking about what was that country, i think somolia or something like that. We were sent into bosnia to kill christians so the muslims could go in and take their land.

All a muslim had to do is accuse a christian of stealing the land, and it could have happend 2 centuries ago, but it didn't matter, and we would have to remove them from the home. Usually this ended up in bloodshed as they retaliated the action.

If christians attacked the muslims for any reason our men were ordered to fire on them and kill them yet when muslims attakced and slaughtered villages, we were under orders to do nothing.

And to think the democrats call what happened in abugraib a atrocity.

The fact remains - there was hard evidence (infallible I would say) that genocide was occurring against the Muslim populace. Just because someone labels himself as "Christian" does not mean he is a Christian. This is the case in Bosnia. "Christian" is more of a cultural word than it is an actual word. True converts don't attack Muslims in genocidal acts...true converts do not retaliate when persecuted.

We cannot justify genocide simply because someone calls himself a Christian. If this were the case, we were wrong for going into Germany. After all, it was Christians (mostly) invading and attacking Jews and secularist.

I don't disagree with that but we didn't go in to stop genocide. We just went in and allowed it to continue except in reverse with muslim killing christian. Our men were under orders to only engage christians that fought back.

For me, a American life is worth far more than a muslim life any day.

And to God, all human life is equally in His image.

[Oh Hamburgers!]

For me, a American life is worth far more than a muslim life any day.

What if the American life is a muslim?

[Burning_Ember]

Eli, do you understand why we might find views like that last comment abhorrent? If you replace Muslim in your sentence with Jew/Christian, and American with Muslim, how does that make what you're saying any better than what an extremist Muslim might preach?

[Arthur Durnan]

The hands of UltraLibDems are tied and they'll have to stay with President Bush as President until 2008 (if they can elect an UltraLibDem). However, they're not doing all that well at the moment in that Giuliani is well ahead in three recent polls.

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

[ted]

Getting back to the issue of the possibility of the President getting impeached, I think he laid out a good case for himself to stand trail for the injustices he did to the nation today in Mexico City.

IMO, the way he handled himself and the words he used today while meeting with the Mexican President are far worse than anything he has done in Iraq. Compared to how he let us down today, The Iraq War can be seen as completely justified.

t.

[Axxman]

Getting back to the issue of the possibility of the President getting impeached, I think he laid out a good case for himself to stand trail for the injustices he did to the nation today in Mexico City.

IMO, the way he handled himself and the words he used today while meeting with the Mexican President are far worse than anything he has done in Iraq. Compared to how he let us down today, The Iraq War can be seen as completely justified.

t.

Ted...I so agree with you. I've said before that Bush has shown of late the "wimpiness" of his father. Its like he is so eager to appease the liberals that he has completely lost his backbone. For someone like me, who has tirelessly defended him in tough times, its like getting completely disregarded by him.

Its like he doesn't realize that he CAN'T make them happy no matter how hard he tries to appease them. They hate him, so why does he even try. The stupid thing is that liberals hate him so much they don't even realize he's trying to give them something.