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There are genres of rock music that have growling or screaming; how is this worshipful?

The Bible tells us to make a joyful noise unto him (Psalms 66:1). What is joyful to one may not be joyful to another, and vice-versa.

Everyone knows the pattern of joy! If it is growling or harsh screams, then it is NOT joy. The language of joy is unmistakeable, and not to do with preference! Joy is expressed with unity, and is universally understood. If one has to question it, then it's a good bet that it is not joy that is being expressed!

well,maybe thats how there expressing their joy?

like it says at top...What is joyful to one may not be joyful to another.

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Isn't Christian death metal an oxymoron? :blink:

Not if your talkin about Death to the Flesh..........or Crucified with Christ!! :21:

Seriously though, if I played real heavy music like "Death Metal" I wouldn't call it death metal, I would just call it .........."my music is heavy man"


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There are genres of rock music that have growling or screaming; how is this worshipful?

The Bible tells us to make a joyful noise unto him (Psalms 66:1). What is joyful to one may not be joyful to another, and vice-versa.

Everyone knows the pattern of joy! If it is growling or harsh screams, then it is NOT joy. The language of joy is unmistakeable, and not to do with preference! Joy is expressed with unity, and is universally understood. If one has to question it, then it's a good bet that it is not joy that is being expressed!

well,maybe thats how there expressing their joy?

like it says at top...What is joyful to one may not be joyful to another.

That is not true. People consider joy and emotion and they certainly can express that in any particular way they desire...but the Joy of the Lord is UNMISTAKEABLE! It is a manifestation of the Holy Spirit and is often seen in worship and in prayer.

Growls such as is mentioned here, is not in keeping with the Holy God...but rather seems to be a demonic manifestation, a counterfeit. Anything that is not in unity with the character of the Holy Spirit is not of God.


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There are genres of rock music that have growling or screaming; how is this worshipful?

The Bible tells us to make a joyful noise unto him (Psalms 66:1). What is joyful to one may not be joyful to another, and vice-versa.

Everyone knows the pattern of joy! If it is growling or harsh screams, then it is NOT joy. The language of joy is unmistakeable, and not to do with preference! Joy is expressed with unity, and is universally understood. If one has to question it, then it's a good bet that it is not joy that is being expressed!

well,maybe thats how there expressing their joy?

like it says at top...What is joyful to one may not be joyful to another.

That is not true. People consider joy and emotion and they certainly can express that in any particular way they desire...but the Joy of the Lord is UNMISTAKEABLE! It is a manifestation of the Holy Spirit and is often seen in worship and in prayer.

Growls such as is mentioned here, is not in keeping with the Holy God...but rather seems to be a demonic manifestation, a counterfeit. Anything that is not in unity with the character of the Holy Spirit is not of God.

ok,can you tell me how this song is not in keeping with the Holy God? by a Christian hardcore/metal band who growls and screams alot. 'Sons of Thunder'

Yeah, this is our victorysong

A song of hope and faith

When all seems dark and dull

Yeah, this is our victorysong

It makes our hearts believe

And force the dark away.

Yeah, this is our powersong

The spirit of our God

He lives within our hearts

Yeah, this is our powersong

When we believe in Him

The power


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There are genres of rock music that have growling or screaming; how is this worshipful?

The Bible tells us to make a joyful noise unto him (Psalms 66:1). What is joyful to one may not be joyful to another, and vice-versa.

Everyone knows the pattern of joy! If it is growling or harsh screams, then it is NOT joy. The language of joy is unmistakeable, and not to do with preference! Joy is expressed with unity, and is universally understood. If one has to question it, then it's a good bet that it is not joy that is being expressed!

well,maybe thats how there expressing their joy?

like it says at top...What is joyful to one may not be joyful to another.

That is not true. People consider joy an emotion and they certainly can express that in any particular way they desire...but the Joy of the Lord is UNMISTAKEABLE! It is a manifestation of the Holy Spirit and is often seen in worship and in prayer.

Growls such as is mentioned here, is not in keeping with the Holy God...but rather seems to be a demonic manifestation, a counterfeit. Anything that is not in unity with the character of the Holy Spirit is not of God.

ok,can you tell me how this song is not in keeping with the Holy God? by a Christian hardcore/metal band who growls and screams alot. 'Sons of Thunder'

Yeah, this is our victorysong

A song of hope and faith

When all seems dark and dull

Yeah, this is our victorysong

It makes our hearts believe

And force the dark away.

Yeah, this is our powersong

The spirit of our God

He lives within our hearts

Yeah, this is our powersong

When we believe in Him

The power


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Sure, the words written are fine! They could can the growls in favour of worship. Are they trying to appeal to a certain element? Why?

Just because the lyrics are OK doesn't mean that the expression or performance is necessarily God-inspired. A certain amount of restraint is beneficial in that regard--IMO.

I don't think there is a specific "formula" required to praise God. Some do it quietly, some do it loudly. Who can say who is right and who is wrong? What makes the quiet rock song better in terms of being Christian when compared to a loud heavy metal song? Jesus wasn't always quiet, some times he shook stuff up!


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Sure, the words written are fine! They could can the growls in favour of worship. Are they trying to appeal to a certain element? Why?

Just because the lyrics are OK doesn't mean that the expression or performance is necessarily God-inspired. A certain amount of restraint is beneficial in that regard--IMO.

I don't think there is a specific "formula" required to praise God. Some do it quietly, some do it loudly. Who can say who is right and who is wrong? What makes the quiet rock song better in terms of being Christian when compared to a loud heavy metal song? Jesus wasn't always quiet, some times he shook stuff up!

I was speaking of volume. I was speaking on the actual expression--the growling noise, which is a red flag to me that something is just not right.


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There are genres of rock music that have growling or screaming; how is this worshipful?

The Bible tells us to make a joyful noise unto him (Psalms 66:1). What is joyful to one may not be joyful to another, and vice-versa.

Everyone knows the pattern of joy! If it is growling or harsh screams, then it is NOT joy. The language of joy is unmistakeable, and not to do with preference! Joy is expressed with unity, and is universally understood. If one has to question it, then it's a good bet that it is not joy that is being expressed!

well,maybe thats how there expressing their joy?

like it says at top...What is joyful to one may not be joyful to another.

That is not true. People consider joy an emotion and they certainly can express that in any particular way they desire...but the Joy of the Lord is UNMISTAKEABLE! It is a manifestation of the Holy Spirit and is often seen in worship and in prayer.

Growls such as is mentioned here, is not in keeping with the Holy God...but rather seems to be a demonic manifestation, a counterfeit. Anything that is not in unity with the character of the Holy Spirit is not of God.

ok,can you tell me how this song is not in keeping with the Holy God? by a Christian hardcore/metal band who growls and screams alot. 'Sons of Thunder'

Yeah, this is our victorysong

A song of hope and faith

When all seems dark and dull

Yeah, this is our victorysong

It makes our hearts believe

And force the dark away.

Yeah, this is our powersong

The spirit of our God

He lives within our hearts

Yeah, this is our powersong

When we believe in Him

The power

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There are genres of rock music that have growling or screaming;

You won't loke this but THIS whole post sounds like one big COMPROMISE.

In ALL we do we are to GLORIFY God, whether it be eating, drinking, WHATEVER.

At some concerts where they have the mosh pits etc, there is NO DIFFERENCE in behavior to that seen in a voodoo ritual with there fanatical actions.

We must be VERY, VERY careful NOT to give the deceiver a foothold in "something" we regard as acceptable to God. The father of lies will USE ANY MEANS whatsoever to twist your thinking.

On another rock music related thread I expressed something to do with this kind of genre of "Christian music" and how I was LED by the Holy Spirit to return the CD to the Christian music shop. I told the salesperson about my reason...her reply was, "well they're a Christian band.." So what!!..You have to be led by the Spirit AND OBEY, which I did.

That's all I'm gonna say. :)


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Well, I don't know why the term 'Christian death metal' is even posted here, for that in fact is not a genre...the fact of the matter is, there are so many genre's and sub-genre's and sub-sub genre's that one can easily just get lost in the shuffle, so to speak. I agree with what others have posted earlier...as long as the members of the band are producing visible, active, vibrant spiritual fruit, there is no problem no matter how "loud" or "screaming" the tune may be. And to answer someone's earlier question--yes, most of these bands are trying to appeal to a certain element. I don't know about you, but I haven't seen many who have grown up around this type of music just jump at the chance to sing Amazing Grace...I've had the pleasure to work "behind the scenes" with many of these bands and the idea that their screaming and etc. is evil or is a spiritual counterfeit is simply fallacious...the bottom line is, the vessel may change but the good news of Christ remains the same, no matter how loud it gets...

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