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32 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

They are both the nation from the northern quarter of the earth. (Heb. meaning)

They are not same nation.

What do you consider the northern QUARTER.


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1 hour ago, The Light said:

They are not same nation.

What do you consider the northern QUARTER.

It is what God says is the northern quarter of the earth. God made the earth and the northern quarter is where Russia is. Just look on a map and you will plainly see. 


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16 hours ago, The Light said:

Of course the land is unwalled. His plan is to go up to the land of unwalled villages.

Ezekiel 38

11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

I feel scripture is saying this is a delusion, not reality. I don't know when this would be. It's not a reality in Israel right now, and likely won't be in the future. In the Millennial Kingdom, there's a vast city surrounded by equally vast walls, with gates; wherein people dwell. 

So I guess I'd like to identify some land as described. Thoughts will come into your mind? And that's the impetus for the plan? That sounds like delusion and not information based.

Let's say "I will go up to the land of unwalled villages" means that some villages are unwalled without bars or gates. I could understand that, but not like an entire region or even a whole country. 

This idea is to liken Eze 38 with the Millennial Kingdom, yes? 

 


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16 hours ago, The Light said:

Can't be from all time.

Revelation 20

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Um....Jesus is the Creator. Jesus is the inspiration for the scriptures. Paul said, "I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud, and that they all passed through the sea. 2They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3They all ate the same spiritual food 4and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ."

So we could push that back to at least Exodus. 

Jesus said, "“Truly, truly, I tell you,” Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!h"

Now we can push that back to the time before Abraham. 

"Then the man and his wife heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the breezeb of the day, and they hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden."

Seems to me this is Jesus Christ, the Lord.

So yeah, ALL time. 

 


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13 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

It is what God says is the northern quarter of the earth. God made the earth and the northern quarter is where Russia is. Just look on a map and you will plainly see. 

Ezekiel 38 is about a northern army going up against the land of unwalled villages. That occurs after the 1000 years as the Word of God says.

Revelation 20

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

As for today, Russia can't even whip Ukraine. They gave up in Germany and had their butts kicked in Afghanistan. They are certainly not the king of the north at this time.


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21 minutes ago, Diaste said:

I feel scripture is saying this is a delusion, not reality. I don't know when this would be. It's not a reality in Israel right now, and likely won't be in the future. In the Millennial Kingdom, there's a vast city surrounded by equally vast walls, with gates; wherein people dwell. 

So I guess I'd like to identify some land as described. Thoughts will come into your mind? And that's the impetus for the plan? That sounds like delusion and not information based.

Let's say "I will go up to the land of unwalled villages" means that some villages are unwalled without bars or gates. I could understand that, but not like an entire region or even a whole country. 

This idea is to liken Eze 38 with the Millennial Kingdom, yes? 

 

It happens after the thousand years.

Revelation 20

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.


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32 minutes ago, Diaste said:

Um....Jesus is the Creator. Jesus is the inspiration for the scriptures. Paul said, "I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud, and that they all passed through the sea. 2They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3They all ate the same spiritual food 4and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ."

So we could push that back to at least Exodus. 

Jesus said, "“Truly, truly, I tell you,” Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!h"

Now we can push that back to the time before Abraham. 

"Then the man and his wife heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the breezeb of the day, and they hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden."

Seems to me this is Jesus Christ, the Lord.

So yeah, ALL time. 

 

Don't believe we can take that back to before the time of Abraham.

Hosea 9

10 I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first time: but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations were according as they loved.

It is the fathers of Israel that were to be the first fruits of the first harvest. But Israel served Baalpeor. The Gentiles become the first harvest of the fig tree. The fig tree has two harvests.

That is why after the fullness of the Gentiles come in, part of Israel has its blindness removed. 

Romans 11

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Thou God saw the fathers of the Jews as the first fruits of the first harvest.......they were not as Israel served Baalpeor. That is why after the rapture of the Church there are 144,000 first fruits of the second harvest of the fig tree.

When the Lord comes for the second harvest at the 6th seal the people of Daniel are raised as we see in Daniel 12.

Daniel 12

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

I don't believe this include everyone.


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On 3/1/2025 at 5:13 PM, Marilyn C said:

Yes, I agree that the Golan Heights is regarded by the UN as Israeli occupied. However, Israel does regard it as their territory. 

S0 does the United States!

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On 3/1/2025 at 6:47 AM, The Light said:

There are two beasts. The beast of the sea was and is not and will come again. He is the eighth king and is of the 7. We can identify this beast as Nimrod, who is the King of Babylon and the Assyrian who had the deadly wound of the sword and will live.

It may be the spiritual principality that possessed Nimrod, but it will not be Nimrod the man. No scripture at all says that evil men will be raised from the dead to rule again. Quite the contrary, they will be raised "to shame and to everlasting contempt." Dan. 12:2; John 5:28-29


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6 hours ago, The Light said:

It happens after the thousand years.

Revelation 20

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

`four quarters of the earth` is different from just the northern quarter.

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