Questions about Jesus's return and what happens thereafter

[Marston]

What happens to the wicked and to people of other belief systems? Will they die?

Will Jesus rule only faithful Christians for a thousand years?

[Indentured Servant]

Many will die, but there will be survivors.

Those who are enemies of God will be taken by His wrath.

Scripture does mention others living simultaneous to, but outside of, the millennial kingdom. (It is written that delegates from outside nations must travel to Jerusalem annually)

As far as the  millennium goes, it is primarily for the fulfillment of a promise for the remnant of Israel, but there will be those who are believers that scripture identifies as being in the "first" resurrection who will also be there.

 

[Keras]

3 hours ago, Marston said:

What happens to the wicked and to people of other belief systems? Will they die?

Will Jesus rule only faithful Christians for a thousand years?

Yes: Only the faithful Christian peoples from every tribe, race, nation and language, will go into the Millenium under the Kingship of Jesus.  Revelation 19:21

It may be that some of the far away peoples could miss their obligation to send an annual delegation to Jerusalem. Their punishment will be as per Zechariah 14:16-19

There will be no temptation to sin, as Satan will be powerless, but after the thousand years are over, Satan will be released and many will again be deceived and they attempt to attack Jerusalem and Jesus, Fire will come from heaven to incinerate them. Rev 20:9

Take note of the difference between Armageddon where the attackers are killed by the Sword of the Word and become carrion food. 

1 hour ago, Indentured Servant said:

As far as the  millennium goes, it is primarily for the fulfillment of a promise for the remnant of Israel,

The Millennium is primarily Gods reward to Jesus. Psalms 2:8=9

The remnant of Jewish Israel will join with their Christian brethren, they won't have much to say: Ezekiel 16:63

[Who me]

7 hours ago, Marston said:

What happens to the wicked and to people of other belief systems? Will they die?

Will Jesus rule only faithful Christians for a thousand years?

 

Leaving aside the various  millennial  views, all of which are based on interpreting pictoral language, 

We know that Jesus is coming again and that his return will herald the end of this creation.

 

What will happen?  We will all be judged, are we Jesus's  or not.

Those who are his will join  God in the new heaven and earth.

Those who are not his, will be separated from God.

 

The many different millennial  views do not matter, what is important is are you Jesus's  or as revelation puts it. Is your name in the Lambs book of Life?

[Indentured Servant]

10 hours ago, Keras said:

The Millennium is primarily Gods reward to Jesus. Psalms 2:8=9

God promised to return to Israel as their King. Yes, Jesus will fill that role. 

Extracting an isolated statement from its context as a song lyric (Psalm) is not a rock solid method of establishing a doctrine that has numerous references in the actual prophetic writings that promise Israel the rule of a king, specifically David's Seed. 

Yes, the Father promised Israel as our Lord's inheritance, but this was necessary to fulfill the promise to Israel.

The prophets, both major and minor, are replete with references to God's promise to Israel regarding His return. 

I see that modern theology has been given great latitude in defining Scripture for us, but it seems to have forgotten the relationship that God still sees with Israel.

He won't break His promise to her.

[Keras]

56 minutes ago, Indentured Servant said:

God promised to return to Israel as their King. Yes, Jesus will fill that role. 

Extracting an isolated statement from its context as a song lyric (Psalm) is not a rock solid method of establishing a doctrine that has numerous references in the actual prophetic writings that promise Israel the rule of a king, specifically David's Seed. 

Yes, the Father promised Israel as our Lord's inheritance, but this was necessary to fulfill the promise to Israel.

The prophets, both major and minor, are replete with references to God's promise to Israel regarding His return. 

I see that modern theology has been given great latitude in defining Scripture for us, but it seems to have forgotten the relationship that God still sees with Israel.

He won't break His promise to her.

Who is Israel?   Is Israel those mixed race peoples who currently occupy a small part of the holy Land?  The people who call themselves Jews, but really are not.  Rev 2:9, Romans 2:29

God has helped them, for His own purposes, but they remain apostate and Jesus rejecting. Their fate is well prophesied. Luke 19:27   We Christian peoples from every tribe, race, nation and language, are the inheritors of Gods Promises to Israel and Jesus will be our King in the Millennium. 

 

[Indentured Servant]

2 hours ago, Keras said:

Who is Israel?   Is Israel those mixed race peoples who currently occupy a small part of the holy Land?  The people who call themselves Jews, but really are not. 

God knows His Israel.

It doesn't matter what anyone has done, or will do, to define or redefine who Israel is and who Israel isn't...

He knows the blood line of Jacob. 

Are we to propose, that because we know there are people who are not really Jews, that God Himself can't determine who is who; thereby, leaving His decision up to what we believe?

I give God greater credit for knowing the bloodline He has chosen than I would the knowledge of mere men, who can only speculate, within their realm of ignorance, what they believe.

[Indentured Servant]

3 hours ago, Keras said:

God has helped them, for His own purposes, but they remain apostate and Jesus rejecting.

Does Scripture concur with you on this? 

Does the Spirit of Prophecy speak of this apostate/rejecting attitude as forever, bringing them to annihilation?

Or does scripture speak of Israel returning to God and placing themselves under His rule? 

Edited Monday at 10:23 PM by Indentured Servant

[Keras]

5 hours ago, Indentured Servant said:

Does Scripture concur with you on this? 

 The Parable of the Landowner: Ethnic Israel is rejected and the true Israelites are now the Church, every faithful Christian: From every tribe, race, nation and language. Revelation 5:9-10. 7:9

 Matthew 21:33-46 Listen to another parable. There was a landowner who planted a vineyard and put a wall around it, built a watchtower and rented it out to vine-growers then went on a journey. When the harvest time approached, he sent his slaves to the vine-growers to receive his produce. The vine-growers took his slaves and beat one, and killed another, and stoned a third. Again he sent another group of slaves larger than the first; and they did the same thing to them. But afterward he sent his son to them, saying, 'They will respect my son.' But when the vine-growers saw the son, they said among themselves, 'This is the heir; come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.' They took him, and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. Therefore when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vine-growers? They said to Him, "He will bring those wretches to a wretched end, and will rent out the vineyard to other vine-growers who will pay him the proceeds at the proper seasons. Jesus said to them: Did you never read in the Scriptures; The Stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. This is the Lord’s doing and it is amazing to us.

Therefore I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people, who will produce the fruit of it. And he who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust. When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard His parables, they understood that He was speaking about them. When they sought to seize Him, they feared the people, because they considered Him to be a prophet.

 

 In this perfectly clear parable, paralleled by Isaiah 5:1-7, Jesus prophesied that the Jews, as a nation, were going to be replaced by something new; faithful Christians who do what they can to spread the Gospel and who fulfill their appointed tasks.

 "He will bring those wretches to a wretched end" did happen in 70 AD.

Now the Jewish nation are back, but still rejecting Jesus and they face the third swing of the Sword, Ezekiel 21:14, their final judgement, Isaiah 6:11-13, and only a remnant will survive. Romans 9:27 

 The entire leadership of the early Christian Church and most of the Elders in the churches were Jewish. They became Christians who stopped keeping the Sabbath and abandoned the Mosaic system of Judaism. They began worshipping God on their seventh day of the working week, the Lord's day. Colossians 2:16-17

 Jesus was a Jew, but most Jews rejected Him as the Messiah: then and now.  Salvation is now open to both Jew and Gentile equally. Everyone must believe, repent, confess Jesus as Lord and be baptized for the remission of their sins. There is only one way to get saved!

Jews have no special route to heaven that Gentiles do not have. They all must believe and become true Christian believers to be saved.

 Paul always began his evangelism in a new city by preaching in the Jewish synagogues. When the Jews rejected the gospel, he turned to the gentiles: But when the Jews saw the crowds, they were filled with jealousy and began contradicting the things spoken by Paul, and were blaspheming. Paul and Barnabas spoke out boldly and said: It was necessary that the word of God be spoken to you first; but since you Jews repudiate it and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life, behold, we are turning to the Gentiles. Acts 13:45-46 

1 Peter 2:7-10 So for you who have faith, the Cornerstone [Jesus] is of great value, but for the faithless it is a stone they trip over. They trip and fall because they refuse to believe the Word and this is the fate appointed for them.

But you Christians are now the chosen race, a royal priesthood, a dedicated people, a nation claimed by God for His own. We are called out of darkness into His glorious Light. Once Christians were not a people, now you are God’s people….. 

 Notice that the; you are a chosen, holy nation of priests, that was originally applied to ethnic Israel at the foot of Mt. Sinai,  Exodus 19:6, is now applied to Christians to the exclusion of ethnic Israel, unless they too, become Christian. 

The fate appointed for them; -  

Jeremiah 12:14 has the clearest prophecy of God’s intentions for the apostate Jewish State of Israel.: …I shall uproot the evil neighbors from My Land and also Judah as well. But if they learn the ways of My [Christian] people, then; their families can join My people there. Zephaniah 1:14-18, Romans 9:27

 

[Scott Free]

On 1/19/2025 at 9:40 PM, Marston said:

What happens to the wicked and to people of other belief systems? Will they die?

After the Thousand Years the Pit is reopened and the mortal humans that survived the cataclysm will overrun the Earth again for the last time. This process could take many more thousands of additional years to complete. Those glorified remind me of the elves in the Lord of the Rings. We will stand apart and live in high places out of their reach.