are you saved ?

[Neighbor]

15 hours ago, Sower said:

Yes, I have been ask that, and responded, yes, I am covered in the blood.
They immediately understood my answer. Do you?
Do you believe ALL that is written in the bible, or only what makes sense to you?

Are you saved, Locust. Are you saved by the blood of the Lamb?
If so, how were you saved if I may ask without offense?
Simple questions for any born again saved believer in the Christ, Jesus, the son of God, the Messiah..

Thanks, Locust...

From the sideline: This seems a fair and direct question to be asking, one that hopefully may be answered.

[Michael37]

4 hours ago, Locust said:

Mark 13:13  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

regardless of what people think or feel it ultimately depends on what the judge determines.Matthew 7:23.  "Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'". 

those called the evildoers do know of Jesus Matthew 24:5 says, "For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Messiah,' and will deceive many"

and BTW will be deceived . 

2 Corinthians 13:5 New International Version

⁵ Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?

The verse in Matthew 7.23 highlights the fact that salvation is by grace "THROUGH FAITH" not of works as per the claims of those who trust in their prophesying, casting out demons, and all manner of activities in the name of the Lord.

We know we are saved by faith. Every day we should wake up as if we are Jesus Himself on earth, and looking to Him as the Author and Finisher of our faith, having the same joy that was set before Him every day leading up to His death on the cross, knowing that He has accomplished the only WORK that brings salvation, and that He is appropriately seated at the right hand of God's throne. [Hebrews 12:2]

From my notes:

The Christian Doctrine of Assurance of Salvation is a theological concept that assures believers of their eternal security in Christ. It's rooted in the idea that once a person truly accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, they are granted eternal life and can be confident of their salvation. This assurance is based on several key elements:

1. Faith in Jesus Christ: Believers trust in Jesus Christ's atoning sacrifice on the cross for their sins.

2. Promises in Scripture: Numerous Bible verses, such as John 10:28-29 and Romans 8:38-39, affirm the security of the believer.

3. Inner Witness of the Holy Spirit: The Holy Spirit testifies to the believer's spirit, providing assurance of their status as God's children.

4. Transformation and Perseverance: Genuine faith is evidenced by a transformed life and perseverance in the faith.

[Locust]

no one wants to die yet its going to happen . Jesus did save a few from death, Lazarus is one of them .Jesus was his salvation.

Jesus saved him from death. with that we know he can save any that he wants to .

[Debp]

9 hours ago, Locust said:

Mark 13:13  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

regardless of what people think or feel it ultimately depends on what the judge determines.Matthew 7:23.  "Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'". 

those called the evildoers do know of Jesus Matthew 24:5 says, "For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Messiah,' and will deceive many"

and BTW will be deceived . 

2 Corinthians 13:5 New International Version

⁵ Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?

We endure because we are saved.   We don't endure to get saved.   Likewise our works will follow suit because of having the indwelling Holy Spirit.

[Locust]

1 hour ago, Debp said:

We endure because we are saved.   We don't endure to get saved.   Likewise our works will follow suit because of having the indwelling Holy Spirit.

if i understand you correctly .you are saying you will never die?

[Sower]

1 hour ago, Locust said:

if i understand you correctly .you are saying you will never die?

 

                             

 

   Just the tent dies, Locust. 'Debp' will live eternally.
Perhaps I'll meet her some day, on that beautiful shore...

                                                 

[Locust]

1 hour ago, Sower said:

 

                             

 

   Just the tent dies, Locust. 'Debp' will live eternally.
Perhaps I'll meet her some day, on that beautiful shore...

                                                 

you are thinking you will be getting a new tent ? because the old one is not fixable ?

[Michael37]

On 1/15/2025 at 12:44 PM, Locust said:

I'm something of a smarty

So it seems 

[Johanabrahams]

On 1/15/2025 at 1:44 AM, Locust said:

I'm something of a smarty ,I will quickly ask ,saved from what ? normally its not a question any are expecting. as it is right now we have a enemy  1 Corinthians 15:26 says, " The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

 

Dad said we have to assist others in our answers.  And thus we have to listen to Him in being a Temple to Him.  And He will give us our answers for the sake of the person who asked.  And they all have different reasons for asking. 

I also asked that question in my life and Dad sent someone to my school where I was only 18 at that time.   So now after many years I and answer like this. 

I agree with you that our saving is also "ongoing".  We are always growing up in being "more saved".   My first saving was from my fear of hell in the afterlife.  And Dad sent someone to my school who had a Gift of Evangelist to speak to all in the school hall.  And there He saved me from that fear.  Where I entered the Creation in my mind and soul by Him.   Where my mind started to know that I will be with Him in the afterlife and my soul experienced the joy always when I thought of it.

[Dennis1209]

18 hours ago, Michael37 said:

The verse in Matthew 7.23 highlights the fact that salvation is by grace "THROUGH FAITH" not of works as per the claims of those who trust in their prophesying, casting out demons, and all manner of activities in the name of the Lord.

We know we are saved by faith. Every day we should wake up as if we are Jesus Himself on earth, and looking to Him as the Author and Finisher of our faith, having the same joy that was set before Him every day leading up to His death on the cross, knowing that He has accomplished the only WORK that brings salvation, and that He is appropriately seated at the right hand of God's throne. [Hebrews 12:2]

From my notes:

The Christian Doctrine of Assurance of Salvation is a theological concept that assures believers of their eternal security in Christ. It's rooted in the idea that once a person truly accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, they are granted eternal life and can be confident of their salvation. This assurance is based on several key elements:

1. Faith in Jesus Christ: Believers trust in Jesus Christ's atoning sacrifice on the cross for their sins.

2. Promises in Scripture: Numerous Bible verses, such as John 10:28-29 and Romans 8:38-39, affirm the security of the believer.

3. Inner Witness of the Holy Spirit: The Holy Spirit testifies to the believer's spirit, providing assurance of their status as God's children.

4. Transformation and Perseverance: Genuine faith is evidenced by a transformed life and perseverance in the faith.

4.      Transformation and Perseverance: Genuine faith is evidenced by a transformed life and perseverance in the faith.

The Biblical conditional clauses of the "ifs, perseverance, and until the end (apostatize) " seem to bear out genuine or saving faith. However, what is the spiritual status of those with faith the size of a mustard seed? As Jesus' disciple, had the Lord not allowed doubting Thomas to probe Jesus's wounds (faith alone), which culminated in Thomas' confession, My Lord and my God, what was his eternal fate, that of Judas?

I want to preface my following thoughts by suggesting the majority view does not necessitate the correct view and differences in our exegesis.

The majority view holds that Matthew uses the kingdom of God and the kingdom of heaven as interchangeable. I am not dogmatic with my current view, but eight separate and distinct kingdoms are identified in scripture.

I view the kingdom of God as everything that exists and created: a higher plane, multidimensional, the earth, the cosmos, time, space and matter, the angels, the heavenly host, the spiritual realm. I see the kingdom of heaven (3D) first offered to the Jews, which John the Baptist preached, and Jesus also preached for a short time until it appeared rejected. I see the kingdom of heaven as everything physical and visible and manifesting here on earth at the second advent, with the New Jerusalem (Length x Width x Height) coming down from heaven, ushering in eternity.  

John 1:12 (KJV) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: [Emphasis mine]

The first Adam was the only human created as a son of God, granted dominion, kingship, and authority in God's image. Those thereafter, through the second Adam, have the power to become future sons of God.

Luke 3:38 (KJV) Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. (bēn ʾĕlōhîm)

What is an inherence?

1 Corinthians 6:10 (KJV) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 15:50 (KJV) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. [emphasis mine]

Inherit: κληρονομέω (klēronomeō). vb. to inherit. To receive rights or real property in perpetuity by means other than purchase or exchange.^[1] [Not any works]

The question frequently debated on this forum is: Is inherence a rebirth right to enter the kingdom of heaven here on earth, or is it a reward, and works gain entrance?

I vote for the former over the latter. I view our crowns, positions, and authority in the kingdom as rewards for service, not entrance into the kingdom of heaven.

To think otherwise presents many other theological questions and debates, such as those with saving faith who are not getting or delayed glorified bodies at the church harpazo.

 

 

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^[1] John W. Herbst, “Inheritance,” in Lexham Theological Wordbook, ed. Douglas Mangum et al., Lexham Bible Reference Series (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2014).