Immigrants from the Past

[nebula]

18 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Let's look back into history. Many immigrants come to the US from Italy,Poland,Russia,Hungary and Ireland and many

other countries. They came to New York City through Ellis Island 1892 to 1954. 12 million immigrants went through Ellis

Island from very bad situations from where they came from. Many wanted to come to the US to start a better

life. Many were treated poorly because they came to the US from another country and were treated poorly such as

the Irish. Many of our ancestors came to the US in this way.

Today we are looking at the same situation. Immigration today is a very controversial topic. Of course we

want to keep the bad guys out. The Cartel and those who break the law and do some really bad things. Yes,

let's keep them out. But the U.S. spends money on some things that are a waste of money such as:

1. 518,000 the federal government spends to study how cocaine affects

the sexual behavior of Japanese quails

2. The government spends 3 million dollars a year to watch hamsters fight.

3. The government spends one million dollars a year to print documents

that no one will ever read.

4. The government spends 1.2 million dollars a year to research the social

habits of monkeys.

5. The government spends $35,000,000 a year for phantom clinics which

are fake clinics.

The ridiculous spending goes on and on.

The US has said that bringing in some of these immigrants is costing them a lot

of money. Maybe they should prioritize where their money should be spent to

maybe help some people in need.

An image of Ellis Island

We can't compare today to the past. The situation we are dealing with now is nothing like it was back then. I hope I don't need to explain the numerous reasons why?

Two things to note, back then immigrants went through the legal process, and, though maintaining aspects of their culture if they could, they assimilated into American culture.

I also have to point out that Ellis Island was only one port of entry into the US. A lot of myths surround Ellis Island, and that's one of them! (Officials changing people's names is another myth. Where the immigrants were illiterate, and didn't know how to spell their name, the processors wrote down what they heard the person say. As people learned English, they or their children sometimes made the change to their surname themselves to fit the English language better.)

As far as paying for, why should non-citizens be granted more money and benefits from the government than citizens? That's not "compassion." What do you think of a parent who makes sure some kid down the street is fully fed and clothed, but their own children are starving and wearing rags? That's what our government is doing. You have to ask yourself - why?

[missmuffet]

4 hours ago, nebula said:

We can't compare today to the past. The situation we are dealing with now is nothing like it was back then. I hope I don't need to explain the numerous reasons why?

Two things to note, back then immigrants went through the legal process, and, though maintaining aspects of their culture if they could, they assimilated into American culture.

I also have to point out that Ellis Island was only one port of entry into the US. A lot of myths surround Ellis Island, and that's one of them! (Officials changing people's names is another myth. Where the immigrants were illiterate, and didn't know how to spell their name, the processors wrote down what they heard the person say. As people learned English, they or their children sometimes made the change to their surname themselves to fit the English language better.)

As far as paying for, why should non-citizens be granted more money and benefits from the government than citizens? That's not "compassion." What do you think of a parent who makes sure some kid down the street is fully fed and clothed, but their own children are starving and wearing rags? That's what our government is doing. You have to ask yourself - why?

A lot of those immigrants who came to America hoping to find a better

life had a big surprise ahead of them. Many had to live horrible lives in

living situations that we would find horrible today.

There are a lot of horrible things going on in our world today. But it will get

a lot worse before it gets better. Satan is the prince of our world. He loves

to see people miserable. But Jesus Christ is the King. If a person clings to

Jesus it will be ok if only they will have faith and trust in Him.

[farouk]

1 minute ago, missmuffet said:

A lot of those immigrants who came to America hoping to find a better

life had a big surprise ahead of them. Many had to live horrible lives in

living situations that we would find horrible today.

There are a lot of horrible things going on in our world today. But it will get

a lot worse before it gets better. Satan is the prince of our world. He loves

to see people miserable. But Jesus Christ is the King. If a person clings to

Jesus it will be ok if only they will have faith and trust in Him.

Hi @missmuffet It's good indeed to look at the spiritual realities beyond the outward news about subjects such as immigration, right?

[Rick-Parker]

The problem with the "path to citizenship" is that is exactly the reason why the Democrats brought all of them here. To make them citizens so that they can vote Democrat. Then they hope to never lose an election again. As someone said, deport the ones who have been ordered removed, those who have overstayed their visas, have criminal records in their home countries, have committed crimes here (after they get out of prison), single males. Families can stay, give them green cards so that they can work but no legalization nor a path to citizens. The only path to citizenship would be through military service of 6 years or more. No DACA either.

[missmuffet]

18 minutes ago, Rick-Parker said:

The problem with the "path to citizenship" is that is exactly the reason why the Democrats brought all of them here. To make them citizens so that they can vote Democrat. Then they hope to never lose an election again. As someone said, deport the ones who have been ordered removed, those who have overstayed their visas, have criminal records in their home countries, have committed crimes here (after they get out of prison), single males. Families can stay, give them green cards so that they can work but no legalization nor a path to citizens. The only path to citizenship would be through military service of 6 years or more. No DACA either.

That could work.