Bible Study or Meditating on Scripture...

[BornAgain490]

12 hours ago, Indentured Servant said:

1. Is there a difference between study and meditation?

God hating atheists can study God's word, and they can know what God's word says better than many Christins.  But atheists don't believe it is God's word because they reject the fact that God is.  

For the Christian, study and meditation of God's word are interconnected.  When we open our Bibles, we are eager to learn and to know the truth, God's word is truth, and we hasten to learn of Him and to know Him more with each page, and to know of His plan for our lives and of our eternal destiny.  

We also pray God grants unto us wisdom and understanding to know exactly what it is that God is communicating to us, e.g., is God's word simply narrating history, or is it informing us of a prophetic event to come, or is it speaking to types and shadows of Christ, etc. On all these things, and more, we both study and meditate. 

12 hours ago, Indentured Servant said:

2. Do we seek acedemic knowledge via reading or insight in the Spirit?

We worship God in spirit and in truth.  For the Christian, our reading, studying, and meditating on God's word is an act of worship. While we worship God through His word, we receive the blessings of the spiritual benefit of getting to know more about God, about His plan of redemption, about His omnipotence and omniscience and omnipresence.  To God be glory forever. Amen. Amen. 

 

12 hours ago, Indentured Servant said:

3. What has the Spirit shown you that you've never seen by study only?

Before I ever opened God's word, the Holy Spirit showed me what I needed to know, namely: I was a sinner in need of a Savior, and His name is Jesus. 

 

12 hours ago, Indentured Servant said:

4. Do you think that sermons are superior or inferior to personal interaction with the Word of God?

"The voice of the Lord is powerful ..." Psalm 29.   "For the word of God is quick and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword..."  Hebrews 4:12.  Accordingly, to the Spirit-filled Christian, there is nothing that rises above the word of God. 

God has given some men the gift of pastor and teacher, and from the beginning of the Great Commission those Spirit-filled men exposited scripture when they proclaimed the good news that Messiah our Redeemer had come.  

Our Lord also warned us that false prophets and false teachers would come.  They came in the 1st century during the lives of the apostles, and they've been coming ever since. 

Some men have given and do give great sermons, but sermons are meaningless if the preacher does not rightly handle the word of truth.  

[Your closest friendnt]

2 hours ago, BornAgain490 said:

God hating atheists can study God's word, and they can know what God's word says better than many Christins.  But atheists don't believe it is God's word because they reject the fact that God is.  

For the Christian, study and meditation of God's word are interconnected.  When we open our Bibles, we are eager to learn and to know the truth, God's word is truth, and we hasten to learn of Him and to know Him more with each page, and to know of His plan for our lives and of our eternal destiny.  

We also pray God grants unto us wisdom and understanding to know exactly what it is that God is communicating to us, e.g., is God's word simply narrating history, or is it informing us of a prophetic event to come, or is it speaking to types and shadows of Christ, etc. On all these things, and more, we both study and meditate. 

We worship God in spirit and in truth.  For the Christian, our reading, studying, and meditating on God's word is an act of worship. While we worship God through His word, we receive the blessings of the spiritual benefit of getting to know more about God, about His plan of redemption, about His omnipotence and omniscience and omnipresence.  To God be glory forever. Amen. Amen. 

 

Before I ever opened God's word, the Holy Spirit showed me what I needed to know, namely: I was a sinner in need of a Savior, and His name is Jesus. 

 

"The voice of the Lord is powerful ..." Psalm 29.   "For the word of God is quick and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword..."  Hebrews 4:12.  Accordingly, to the Spirit-filled Christian, there is nothing that rises above the word of God. 

God has given some men the gift of pastor and teacher, and from the beginning of the Great Commission those Spirit-filled men exposited scripture when they proclaimed the good news that Messiah our Redeemer had come.  

Our Lord also warned us that false prophets and false teachers would come.  They came in the 1st century during the lives of the apostles, and they've been coming ever since. 

Some men have given and do give great sermons, but sermons are meaningless if the preacher does not rightly handle the word of truth.  

There are different kinds of sermons. And there are sermons that distorts the word of God.  

In a similar way it happens with the word of God. And it can happen in everything that it can be spoken and be subject to discussion. 
We can't trust the Pastors and teachers in everything they say. How would you know if they are what they claim to be out of selfish ambitions. 

Edited yesterday at 06:32 PM by Your closest friendnt

[BornAgain490]

5 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

There are different kinds of sermons. And there are sermons that distorts the word of God.

True, as to both statements.  

All sermons should be God centered, and the only way to preach a God-centered sermon is by preaching and expositing and rightly handling the word of God.

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, BornAgain490 said:

True, as to both statements.  

All sermons should be God centered, and the only way to preach a God-centered sermon is by preaching and expositing and rightly handling the word of God.

This all good in the good intent but the good intent is not enough to the path of truth. 

They refused to quote Apostle Paul and they are not from the Jewish culture. The include works for salvation. 

[Indentured Servant]

4 hours ago, BornAgain490 said:

God hating atheists can study God's word, and they can know what God's word says better than many Christins.  But atheists don't believe it is God's word because they reject the fact that God is.  

For the Christian, study and meditation of God's word are interconnected.  When we open our Bibles, we are eager to learn and to know the truth, God's word is truth, and we hasten to learn of Him and to know Him more with each page, and to know of His plan for our lives and of our eternal destiny.  

We also pray God grants unto us wisdom and understanding to know exactly what it is that God is communicating to us, e.g., is God's word simply narrating history, or is it informing us of a prophetic event to come, or is it speaking to types and shadows of Christ, etc. On all these things, and more, we both study and meditate. 

We worship God in spirit and in truth.  For the Christian, our reading, studying, and meditating on God's word is an act of worship. While we worship God through His word, we receive the blessings of the spiritual benefit of getting to know more about God, about His plan of redemption, about His omnipotence and omniscience and omnipresence.  To God be glory forever. Amen. Amen. 

 

Before I ever opened God's word, the Holy Spirit showed me what I needed to know, namely: I was a sinner in need of a Savior, and His name is Jesus. 

 

"The voice of the Lord is powerful ..." Psalm 29.   "For the word of God is quick and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword..."  Hebrews 4:12.  Accordingly, to the Spirit-filled Christian, there is nothing that rises above the word of God. 

God has given some men the gift of pastor and teacher, and from the beginning of the Great Commission those Spirit-filled men exposited scripture when they proclaimed the good news that Messiah our Redeemer had come.  

Our Lord also warned us that false prophets and false teachers would come.  They came in the 1st century during the lives of the apostles, and they've been coming ever since. 

Some men have given and do give great sermons, but sermons are meaningless if the preacher does not rightly handle the word of truth.  

Thanks you for your responses. Well thought out and aptly worded. 

[Indentured Servant]

6 hours ago, Neighbor said:

do you have any affirming or contrary/different understandings of my own responses.

I do, but that wasn't the point of my post. I'm not here to disagree with anyone or to draw them into a debate, but to learn about their personal thoughts relating specifically to the questions I posed. This is how I get to know people and learn about the community of which I am a part.

 

 

[BornAgain490]

2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

This all good in the good intent but the good intent is not enough to the path of truth. 

They refused to quote Apostle Paul and they are not from the Jewish culture. The include works for salvation. 

Anyone who teaches that faith plus works is necessary for salvation is teaching a different gospel, and is accursed. 

[Your closest friendnt]

4 hours ago, BornAgain490 said:

Anyone who teaches that faith plus works is necessary for salvation is teaching a different gospel, and is accursed. 

This is something that needs to come out of a proper study. 

We need to understand the believers of the church of James and the other disciples with them. 

They said to the Apostle Paul not to preached the Gospel Jesus gave him towards the Gentiles to the Jew believers who lived in the Comunities that were strict adherent of the Law. 

That the situation in the churches within the strick Jewish community and their cultural background had made them to continue to keep the Law in the same way they were doing before they believed. 

They were believers in Jesus Christ practicing their Jewish culture.

They lived in the Jewish community and they continue to identify with the Jewish culture who require obedience to the Law of Moses. 

James did not denied that the believers in his congregation 100% Jewish and from Jewish mix families traditional Jews and believers in Jesus Christ living together under the same roof. What James said was that they venture to the churches of Ethic believers on their own initiative. They did not send them, they were on a mission on their own accord. 

Anyway the were exposed to Paul's Gospel and some of them were enlightened. 

Today we have more than one Gospels of Jesus Christ and is practice in different cultural traditions. 

They all have Jesus Christ died on the Cross and raised from the dead and ascended to the Heavenly Father. 

Forgiveness of sins in his name. The Lamb of God slain. Jesus Christ the Passover Lamb of God for the whole world. Once for all. Jesus said if you do not eat my body and drink my blood you none of me.

He forshowed himself as the Lamb of the Passover that had to be slain. 

This is why he said if I do not died no one will be given the Eternal Life.  

The blood of the Lamb of God on the posts of our heart. That what it matters above all. 

With the blood of the Slain Lamb on our hearts we are asked to work out our cleansing of the things that have poluted our selfs. 

Good works do not cleanch the polution of our selves. They have their propose. 

Repentance from polluting agents is cleansing ourselves and remain in the mode of repentance. And not to go back to the things we have repented from and let go of our anger which is cultivating our righteous indignation which when at work overrides our good conscience. 

[kwikphilly]

On 11/12/2024 at 9:41 PM, Indentured Servant said:

1. Is there a difference between study and meditation?

2. Do we seek acedemic knowledge via reading or insight in the Spirit?

3. What has the Spirit shown you that you've never seen by study only?

4. Do you think that sermons are superior or inferior to personal interaction with the Word of God?

Well,let's see,hmmmm " personal experiences"?

I think there's a big difference between Bible Study and Meditation.... I'd stay examining the Word of God for analytical purpose to gain a deeper Understanding of contextual meaning is more study" where as in "Meditating on the Word of God is a more focusing on a more  personal application

Someone once told me Study is acquiring knowledge

Meditating is internalizing knowledge

Of course with both,personally ,I pray and ask the Lord to Reveal ,open the Eyes of my heart that I may Receive His Truth to gain Knowledge,Understanding and Wisdom

I've got some things to do so I'll be back to answer your other questions hopefully and get to know you too

With love in Christ,Kwik

[Jedi4Yahweh]

The hebrew word for meditate (siyach) means to: speak, mutter, commune, ponder, to sing, to put forth.

This is why you see people in orthodox Jewish synagogues, when they read from God's word they are singing God's word as they read it aloud in a congregation.  Mutter also means to speak under ones breath.  So speaking God's word aloud under your breath as you read God word in your personal time.  I personally quietly speak God's word aloud as I read the scriptures.  The bible mentions that faith comes by hearing the word of God.