thoughts on the Anti-Christ

[chirpy]

Human nature seeks leadership.

In times past people have demanded a king to represent them.

Made Golden calf because they felt abandoned by the God who performed miracles to lead them from bondage in Egypt.

Humans in all areas have created images - roman gods, greek gods, hindu gods, many forms of entities everywhere on earth. 

It is a human desire to have someone over them in charge - to blame, to worship, to make them feel secure and of value

So, in a generation who has lost contact with a Biblical God and no understanding of the salvation message of Jesus.... they are of the season and ripe to be plucked by a false leader who will claim to be their god. 

Humans today are no different from the Hebrews wandering in the wilderness - solace and help will be solicited from another source .... the anti-christ can not be far away.

 

just thinking....

[other one]

To have any kind of discussion, I have found over the years that everyone should have a consensus on exactly what the Antichrist is.  That word isn't used in end times prophecy in most of the books we generally use to discuss.

[missmuffet]

2 hours ago, chirpy said:

Human nature seeks leadership.

In times past people have demanded a king to represent them.

Made Golden calf because they felt abandoned by the God who performed miracles to lead them from bondage in Egypt.

Humans in all areas have created images - roman gods, greek gods, hindu gods, many forms of entities everywhere on earth. 

It is a human desire to have someone over them in charge - to blame, to worship, to make them feel secure and of value

So, in a generation who has lost contact with a Biblical God and no understanding of the salvation message of Jesus.... they are of the season and ripe to be plucked by a false leader who will claim to be their god. 

Humans today are no different from the Hebrews wandering in the wilderness - solace and help will be solicited from another source .... the anti-christ can not be far away.

 

just thinking....

Many on this earth will embrace the Antichrist. He will be a charmer and will deceive many. A lot of people in this world will get his Mark of the Beast because they will trust him. Once they have gotten the MOB they will go to hell. They have worshiped the beast.

[Diaste]

19 hours ago, chirpy said:

Human nature seeks leadership.

In times past people have demanded a king to represent them.

Made Golden calf because they felt abandoned by the God who performed miracles to lead them from bondage in Egypt.

Humans in all areas have created images - roman gods, greek gods, hindu gods, many forms of entities everywhere on earth. 

It is a human desire to have someone over them in charge - to blame, to worship, to make them feel secure and of value

So, in a generation who has lost contact with a Biblical God and no understanding of the salvation message of Jesus.... they are of the season and ripe to be plucked by a false leader who will claim to be their god. 

Humans today are no different from the Hebrews wandering in the wilderness - solace and help will be solicited from another source .... the anti-christ can not be far away.

 

just thinking....

I feel the conclusion of scripture concerning the rise of the beast is to present a choice. Just like in the garden, eat from the tree and die, or heed my words and live. 

People may think it's about what your saying, but scripture says it's about life eternal in the kingdom of God. 

[AdHoc]

On 10/9/2024 at 6:55 PM, other one said:

To have any kind of discussion, I have found over the years that everyone should have a consensus on exactly what the Antichrist is.  That word isn't used in end times prophecy in most of the books we generally use to discuss.

I agree, though I make no laws of publishing. "Anti" means "replacement". But scripture says many "replacement-Christs" will come. We discuss THE BEAST! Here are a few points to chew.

He is a "Prince of the People" who destroyed the second Temple - a Roman
He is the Prince of the fourth Empire of Daniel 2 - a Roman
He is previous king that reigned when John was alive - Rome reigned then
He lived and died while John was an Apostle - one of five who have fallen
He comes out of the Abyss - he is resurrected
He was, is not and will be - he will be resurrected
He was one of seven and IS the eighth - eight is the number of resurrection
He is resurrected out of time (Dan.7:25 - he should only be resurrected at the White Throne
He dos not die again - he goes living to the Lake of Fire
He is a "he" - a man
He is a "king" - a male ruler
He is opposed to, or disinterested in women - a trait of the resurrected (Lk.20:35-36)
He has three phases of his presence. 1. He is revealed. 2. He is crowned political ruler of the world for 3.5 years. 3. He is crowned religious ruler of the world for the second 3.5 years
He receives ALL Power. Nobody can defeat him. He defeats the saints (Rev.13:7) and the Two Witnesses (Rev.11)
 

[other one]

Is he a human, or is he from the pit?

[missmuffet]

26 minutes ago, other one said:

Is he a human, or is he from the pit?

He is human. I believe that Satan indwells the Antichrist.

Edited Saturday at 12:59 AM by missmuffet

[AdHoc]

On 10/12/2024 at 2:32 AM, other one said:

Is he a human, or is he from the pit?

He is a man. He is a "Prince of the people who destroy the second Temple (Dan.9). He is one of seven kings that reigned at John's time. His number is the "number of a MAN".

He is also from the pit. Under the earth are two prisons, Hades and Tartaroo. Hades is a underground place for the SOULS of dead men. Some language experts say that Hades mean "hidden". Jesus went there at death but He has the keys of the Gates of Hades. David was still there 50 days after Jesus' resurrection (Act.2:26-34). Tartaroo (2nd Pet.2:4) is a prison for the angels that mixed with women at Noah's time. They are SPIRITS and must await the White Throne judgment. These two places seem to share a common hole - an "Abyss". Any man who is released from Hades must come up the pit to the earth's surface.

Demons, on the other hand, live in water. When they are not in body (70% water), they are tormented by "dryness" (Matt.12:43). They will be sorely tormented after the White Throne judgment because there is no more sea.

God has decided on MEN ruling the earth. The Beast must be a normal man.

[missmuffet]

Satan always tries to duplicate what Jesus Christ is. Satan is going to indwell the human on this earth who will become the Antichrist. Just like the born again Christians are indwell with God's Holy Spirit. Satan has the unholy trinity during the 7 year tribulation. It will be Satan, the Antichrist and the False Prophet. Just like we have the Holy Trinity which is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. When the born again Christians get to heaven we will have the mark of Jesus Christ on our forehead. Those who take the MOB in the 7 year tribulation will take the mark of worship and obedience for Satan and the Beast.There will be no opportunity for them to get to heaven.

[WilliamL]

On 10/11/2024 at 6:32 PM, other one said:

Is he a human, or is he from the pit?

He -- "THE antichrist" -- is a construct of poorly-educated Christian theologians. But according to the scriptures, there is no "THE antichrist;" rather, there are many of them:

John's testimony: "there are many antichrists." 1 John 2:18

Jesus testimony: "many will come in my name, saying, 'I am the Christ...'"

20. “The Antichrist” Myth

Debunks a number of false presumptions about “The Antichrist” that are taught in modern-day churches.    https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/1150-the-antichrist-myth/

There will be "many" antichrists in the End Times, including

" 1) the Son of Perdition/Lawless One, 2) the Beast, 3) the False Prophet, 4) the Mouth of the Beast = Little Horn, and 5) Gog. Thus there are at minimum five major end times antichrists, without even mentioning the greatest antichrist of them all, Satan. They are all anti/against Christ, according to Johnʼs definition: ones that deny and oppose the exclusivity of Jesus being the only Christ/Messiah of God. "

The Beast who ascends from the Abyss is a fallen angel, not a man. Whereas the Son of Perdition is a man.

17. The Son of Perdition Is a Patsy

Shows that 2 Thessalonians 2:3’s Son of Perdition will follow in the pattern of Judas, the Bible’s only other Son of Perdition; contrary to common misconceptions about his role in the End Times. https://worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/1097-the-son-of-perdition-is-a-patsy/

68. The Beast Is Not a (Seven-Headed!) Man, Part 1

Explains why the Beast of Revelation 13 cannot be a man, and reveals who and what it really is. https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2778-the-beast-is-not-a-seven-headed-man-part-1/