Theistic Evolution

[The Barbarian]

5 minutes ago, Mozart's Starling said:

The Barbarian just spews trash and his claims are ridiculous on their faces.

You seem to be completely unaware of what I've posted, as well as the evidence.

6 minutes ago, Mozart's Starling said:

The idea that a Christian reading Genesis would somehow come to the conclusion of evolution is a joke.

Which, I suppose, is why no one  here made such a claim.   You might as well say that a Christian reading Genesis would come to the conclusion of nuclear fusion.

6 minutes ago, Mozart's Starling said:

There is no honest reading of Genesis that leads to evolution simple as that.

Or nuclear fusion.   Or many other observed phenomena.

7 minutes ago, Mozart's Starling said:

Being a non creationist Christian is like being a gay Christian.

Sort of disturbing that you'd make such an absurd story.   

And in fact, there are people who are gay, who live celibate lives as Christians.    A celibate gay person is as praiseworthy as a celibate unmarried heterosexual person.

Try to do better than this.

 

[Sparks]

13 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:

I'm just wondering why you aren't answering the question.  

I asked if English was your native language because you don't seem to understand that I have already answered your question. 

Incidentally, you didn't answer my question about native languages.

[Mozart's Starling]

17 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:

You seem to be completely unaware of what I've posted, as well as the evidence.

Which, I suppose, is why no one  here made such a claim.   You might as well say that a Christian reading Genesis would come to the conclusion of nuclear fusion.

Or nuclear fusion.   Or many other observed phenomena.

Sort of disturbing that you'd make such an absurd story.   

And in fact, there are people who are gay, who live celibate lives as Christians.    A celibate gay person is as praiseworthy as a celibate unmarried heterosexual person.

Try to do better than this.

 

Obviously meant practicing homosexuals dude. They exist, there are in fact gay affirming churches which support it. You're an apostate liberal stereotype who has no business being on a christian website. When all of your arguments are the same as an atheists you're clearly in denial about what you believe when you claim to be a christian.

Edited September 3 by Mozart's Starling

[The Barbarian]

6 minutes ago, Sparks said:

I asked if English was your native language because you don't seem to understand that I have already answered your question. 

I noticed that you dodged it.  As you know, the Libertarian position is that abortion is a personal choice, and the government should not interfere.

  Or did you just disagree on that point, and vote for the party because you support them otherwise?    Or do you not vote libertarian?

For reasons I think we all understand.   And that was good enough.  

If you honestly doubt that my first language is English, you're a lot less intelligent than I think you are.  If you look at the usage of a native speaker of English, you'll find particular uses of idiom.   Most people would have realized that I was a native English speaker by that alone.   I suppose that it's possible that your first language is not English.   Is that the problem?

 

[The Barbarian]

9 minutes ago, Mozart's Starling said:

Obviously meant practicing homsexuals dude.

Not obvious.   There are lost of people so wound up about homosexuality that they think even celibate gays can't be Christians.   Glad you're not one of them.

9 minutes ago, Mozart's Starling said:

They exist, there are in fact gay affirming churches which support it.

Yeah, that's true.    I suppose the problem is that in the Hellenistic culture of that time, it was sort of considered a personal choice, and for some reason Jesus didn't think it was worth mentioning.   But Leviticus did.   

9 minutes ago, Mozart's Starling said:

You're an apostate liberal stereotype who has no business being on a christian website.

I'm an orthodox Trinitarian Christian.     If that's not acceptable here, someone should make that clear.

9 minutes ago, Mozart's Starling said:

When all of your arguments are the same as an atheists

I don't think all your arguments are the same as an atheist's, but that one is.  

9 minutes ago, Mozart's Starling said:

you're clearly in denial about what you believe when you claim to be a christian.

How sad that your personal biases make you slander other Christians if they don't share your particular take on things.

Edited September 3 by The Barbarian

[Mozart's Starling]

22 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:

Not obvious.   There are lost of people so wound up about homosexuality that they think even celibate gays can't be Christians.   Glad you're not one of them.

Yeah, that's true.    I suppose the problem is that in the Hellenistic culture of that time, it was sort of considered a personal choice, and for some reason Jesus didn't think it was worth mentioning.   But Leviticus did.   

I'm an orthodox Trinitarian Christian.     If that's not acceptable here, someone should make that clear.

I don't think all your arguments are the same as an atheist's, but that one is.  

How sad that your personal biases make you slander other Christians if they don't share your particular take on things.

See this is what I mean. You say Jesus didn't speak out against homosexuality like it means anything. Jesus didn't mention masturbation either but from what we know about the Bible it is still clearly wrong. "For some reason" it's these sly little comments you make that betray your true beliefs. You're an apostate.

[Sparks]

1 hour ago, The Barbarian said:

I suppose that it's possible that your first language is not English.   Is that the problem?

You misinterpret virtually everything, is the problem.  That's why I asked.  I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you were not just intentionally posting the opposite to every position a person takes on this forum, by misunderstanding.

Do you donate to this site?

[Diamond]

On 9/1/2024 at 7:34 PM, The Barbarian said:

The difference between a medalist and an also-ran at that level is not great

They all put the same amount of work into what they are doing. I was a electrician on the lighting crew for the local ballet company. The dancers had to work three hours a day for three years before they were qualified to go on the stage. Some were good, some were not, but they all put the same amount of work into it. 

[RV_Wizard]

8 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Not according to the republicans. 

You are quoting a staffer and claiming what he said was the official party platform of the Republican Party.  I am more convinced than ever that you are incapable of telling the truth.  You obviously disavow the fourth and the ninth commandment.  You never did answer me,  Is there anything in the Bible you believe?

8 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Project 2025 does not specifically endorse infanticide as part of their plans to weaponize government.

The Harris campaign does not specifically endorse the extermination of all Jews.  The Harris campaign does not specifically endorse the re-institution of slavery in the United States.  The Libertarian Party does not specifically endorse child sacrifice or bestiality.  The Barbarian does not specifically endorse the beheading of Christians.

Infanticide is a Democrat idol.

 

[RV_Wizard]

8 hours ago, Mozart's Starling said:

You say Jesus didn't speak out against homosexuality like it means anything. Jesus didn't mention masturbation either but from what we know about the Bible it is still clearly wrong.

We don't know everything Jesus said, only a few things and a few incidents.  John 21:25 "And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written."

Jesus taught that he was not here to abolish the law but to fulfill it.  He taught that a marriage was to be one man and one woman.  By not excusing homosexuality, He affirmed its condemnation.  One is in error by claiming to know what Jesus did not say.  We only have what was recorded.  If Jesus recited all of the Leviticus laws, it would not be news and thus nobody would have quoted it.

If a man is born again he is a new creature.  He is not a drunk, or a liar, or an adulterer, or a fornicator, or a practicing homosexual, or a worshipper of false gods, or a teacher of false doctrine.  He does not attack the word of God and does not revel in the works of the ungodly.  All are sinners, but a saved person does not live in their sin.  A saved person has the Holy Spirit to remind them when they commit sin.  You know a Christian by his love.  Leading others away from the word of God is hatred, not love.