Jesus is Lord and also our Prototype

[Vine Abider]

Got some light in a couple verses I read this morning in the Daily Light devotional (which is comprised of just scripture).  Here are the two verses:

"For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him"  Col 1:19

"For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace." John 1:13

I've understood that all the fullness of the Godhead dwelt bodily in Christ (Col 2:9), but what I don't always see is that Christ is the forerunner for all of us.  That is, we are being conformed to His image, that many sons would be brought into glory and a close relationship with our Father.  He was the last Adam, and we've been placed in Him and He in us.  Therefore He is the original prototype of us!

Truly, what is man?  Therefore He is not ashamed to call us brethren! (Heb 2:11)

Indeed, what has God wrought?  May our eyes be opened to this glorious fact!

[Sower]

3 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

He was the last Adam, and we've been placed in Him and He in us.  Therefore He is the original prototype of us!

 

I thought the first created man was Adam, the 1st model, type, prototype.
Un-corrupted before the fall.

Later, Jesus became man.
Jesus is the last. We can follow Him, or the first model, Adam. In-corruption vs corruption.
Have I missed something?

 

Romans5: 14

 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.   King James Bible

Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam,
who was a type of the one who was to come.  English Standard Version

Nevertheless, death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who did not sin in the way that Adam transgressed.
He is a pattern of the One to come.  Berean Standard Bible

Still, everyone died—from the time of Adam to the time of Moses—even those who did not disobey an explicit commandment of God, as Adam did. Now Adam is a symbol,
a representation of Christ, who was yet to come.  New Living Translation

 

( figure-type-pattern-representation used above ) From Strongs concordance.

5179 týpos (from 5180 /týptō, "strike repeatedly") – properly, a model forged by repetition; (figuratively) the correct paradigm (example or pattern of something), based on reliable precedent for others to then follow, (i.e. the right example, a proper pattern).

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. M]

3 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

Got some light in a couple verses I read this morning in the Daily Light devotional (which is comprised of just scripture).  Here are the two verses:

"For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him"  Col 1:19

"For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace." John 1:13

I've understood that all the fullness of the Godhead dwelt bodily in Christ (Col 2:9), but what I don't always see is that Christ is the forerunner for all of us.  That is, we are being conformed to His image, that many sons would be brought into glory and a close relationship with our Father.  He was the last Adam, and we've been placed in Him and He in us.  Therefore He is the original prototype of us!

Truly, what is man?  Therefore He is not ashamed to call us brethren! (Heb 2:11)

Indeed, what has God wrought?  May our eyes be opened to this glorious fact!

prototokos [G4416] firstborn

Colossians 1:

15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 

16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 

17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 

18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

[Mr. M]

1 minute ago, Mr. M said:

prototokos [G4416] firstborn

Colossians 1:

15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 

16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 

17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 

18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

Romans 8:29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 

[Marilyn C]

27 minutes ago, Sower said:

 

I thought the first created man was Adam, the 1st model, type, prototype.
Un-corrupted before the fall.

Later, Jesus became man.
Jesus is the last. We can follow Him, or the first model, Adam. In-corruption vs corruption.
Have I missed something?

 

Romans5: 14

 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.   King James Bible

Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam,
who was a type of the one who was to come.  English Standard Version

Nevertheless, death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who did not sin in the way that Adam transgressed.
He is a pattern of the One to come.  Berean Standard Bible

Still, everyone died—from the time of Adam to the time of Moses—even those who did not disobey an explicit commandment of God, as Adam did. Now Adam is a symbol,
a representation of Christ, who was yet to come.  New Living Translation

 

( figure-type-pattern-representation used above ) From Strongs concordance.

5179 týpos (from 5180 /týptō, "strike repeatedly") – properly, a model forged by repetition; (figuratively) the correct paradigm (example or pattern of something), based on reliable precedent for others to then follow, (i.e. the right example, a proper pattern).

 

 

 

 

 

Adam is of the earth, whereas Christ is of the heavenly. Our changed bodies will be different than Adam even before the fall.

`As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly.` (1 Cor. 15: 48)

We will have bodies that are incorruptible and immortal. (1 Cor. 15: 54)

Also, our character will be of the Lord, His divine nature, (2 Peter 1: 4). We will be able to go through walls, and through the different realms just as Christ did. We are being made for the highest position in all of God`s great kingdom - Christ`s own throne. (Rev. 3: 21)

[Marilyn C]

4 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

Got some light in a couple verses I read this morning in the Daily Light devotional (which is comprised of just scripture).  Here are the two verses:

"For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him"  Col 1:19

"For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace." John 1:13

I've understood that all the fullness of the Godhead dwelt bodily in Christ (Col 2:9), but what I don't always see is that Christ is the forerunner for all of us.  That is, we are being conformed to His image, that many sons would be brought into glory and a close relationship with our Father.  He was the last Adam, and we've been placed in Him and He in us.  Therefore He is the original prototype of us!

Truly, what is man?  Therefore He is not ashamed to call us brethren! (Heb 2:11)

Indeed, what has God wrought?  May our eyes be opened to this glorious fact!

Please read what I wrote above to Sower.

[Sower]

19 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Adam is of the earth, whereas Christ is of the heavenly. Our changed bodies will be different than Adam even before the fall.

`As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly.` (1 Cor. 15: 48)

We will have bodies that are incorruptible and immortal. (1 Cor. 15: 54)

Also, our character will be of the Lord, His divine nature, (2 Peter 1: 4). We will be able to go through walls, and through the different realms just as Christ did. We are being made for the highest position in all of God`s great kingdom - Christ`s own throne. (Rev. 3: 21)

I understand all of what you have wrote and agree. Yet Adam was the first  prototype of man.
Our bodies WILL BE changed. To the likeness of Christ.

Like most any prototype, changes are expected, refined, to completion.

In Christ, we are complete.

[Mr. M]

17 hours ago, Sower said:

I understand all of what you have wrote and agree. Yet Adam was the first  prototype of man.
Our bodies WILL BE changed. To the likeness of Christ.

Like most any prototype, changes are expected, refined, to completion.

In Christ, we are complete.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

The Son of God is the prototokos of man from first to last.

First Adam: corrupted image

Last Adam: incorruptible image.

1 Corinthians 15:

46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. 

47 The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven. 

48 As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; 

and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly. (as stated by @Marilyn C.)

49 And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, 

we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man...

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 

54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality,

then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”

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Genesis 9:6 Whoso sheds a man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed:

for in the image of God made he man.

1 Corinthians 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head,

since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man.

2 Corinthians 4:

3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 

4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe,

lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, 

who is the image of God, should shine on them.

18 hours ago, Mr. M said:

prototokos [G4416] firstborn

Colossians 1:

15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 

16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 

17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 

18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

Benediction: from Revelation 1

Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, 

and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, 

5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead,

and the ruler over the kings of the earth.

[Vine Abider]

On 12/2/2023 at 2:03 PM, Sower said:

 

I thought the first created man was Adam, the 1st model, type, prototype.
Un-corrupted before the fall.

Later, Jesus became man.
Jesus is the last. We can follow Him, or the first model, Adam. In-corruption vs corruption.
Have I missed something?

 

Romans5: 14

 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.   King James Bible

Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam,
who was a type of the one who was to come.  English Standard Version

Nevertheless, death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who did not sin in the way that Adam transgressed.
He is a pattern of the One to come.  Berean Standard Bible

Still, everyone died—from the time of Adam to the time of Moses—even those who did not disobey an explicit commandment of God, as Adam did. Now Adam is a symbol,
a representation of Christ, who was yet to come.  New Living Translation

 

( figure-type-pattern-representation used above ) From Strongs concordance.

5179 týpos (from 5180 /týptō, "strike repeatedly") – properly, a model forged by repetition; (figuratively) the correct paradigm (example or pattern of something), based on reliable precedent for others to then follow, (i.e. the right example, a proper pattern).

 

 

 

 

 

Did you get your question answered effectively? 

Actually, I wasn't sure what it was you were having difficulty with, as the verses you presented seem to show that Christ is indeed our (new) prototype.  That is, the old race came out of (first) Adam; the new race comes out of the Last Adam (Christ).

[Sower]

4 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

Did you get your question answered effectively? 

Actually, I wasn't sure what it was you were having difficulty with, as the verses you presented seem to show that Christ is indeed our (new) prototype.  That is, the old race came out of (first) Adam; the new race comes out of the Last Adam (Christ).

I had no actual question, but thanks VA. I assumed the scripture presented would suffice.                    
The OP indicated Jesus as our prototype.  I understood Adam was the first man (prototype). 
A prototype is considered a preliminary model of something, to be tested, refined, and future models developed. In my profession I have made many machine prototype enclosures that were rebuilt or modified to improve performance/construction manufacturing etc, till the finished final model is settled on.
I would not consider Jesus Christ a prototype, as He is perfect, needing no "improvements, our Model"....

Scripture says; Adam, was a type of the one who was to come.  Jesus.

The last Adam,  Jesus, is perfect. In Christ we are perfect (complete)

My quote:
"I understand all of what you have wrote and agree. Yet Adam was the first  prototype of man.
Our bodies WILL BE changed. To the likeness of Christ.
Like most any prototype, changes are expected, refined, to completion.
In Christ, we are complete."

Thanks VA...