What Is Christmas For You? The Birth of JESUS CHRIST or The Dumb Christmas Tree? = Matthew 1;18-21

[Vine Abider]

So many holidays have sort of become hollow-days.  So I've started saying more non-traditional names for them, which better conveys their meaning.

For instance saying things like:

"Merry Incarnation Day" for Christmas

"Happy Resurrection Day" for Easter

"Independence Day" for the 4th of July (BTW - does England have a 4th of July? )

(And thinking about saying "Happy celebration of death day" for Halloween . . .  OK, not really)

[David1701]

31 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

So many holidays have sort of become hollow-days.  So I've started saying more non-traditional names for them, which better conveys their meaning.

For instance saying things like:

"Merry Incarnation Day" for Christmas

"Happy Resurrection Day" for Easter

"Independence Day" for the 4th of July (BTW - does England have a 4th of July? )

(And thinking about saying "Happy celebration of death day" for Halloween . . .  OK, not really)

Where does the Bible say that Jesus became incarnate on the 25th Dec.?

Where does the Bible say that Jesus was resurrected on "Easter" (a pagan festival)?

Britain (not just England) has the 4th July, since it's part of the calendar, like every other day; it's just that we don't celebrate the violent rebellion and illegal creation of a new country on that date (or any other date).  In a similar way, we don't celebrate Bastille Day, or the Russian Revolution.

The 31st Oct. is Reformation Day, if anyone knows or cares any more, not that anyone has to celebrate that either, but at least it's much better than celebrating witchcraft on Halloween.

Edited December 10, 2022 by David1701

[farouk]

31 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

So many holidays have sort of become hollow-days.  So I've started saying more non-traditional names for them, which better conveys their meaning.

For instance saying things like:

"Merry Incarnation Day" for Christmas

"Happy Resurrection Day" for Easter

"Independence Day" for the 4th of July (BTW - does England have a 4th of July? )

(And thinking about saying "Happy celebration of death day" for Halloween . . .  OK, not really)

Or......happy Genoese navigator day when he happened to sail someplace that was there already - day.....

[Vine Abider]

9 minutes ago, David1701 said:

Where does the Bible say that Jesus became incarnate on the 25th Dec.?

Where does the Bible say that Jesus was resurrected on "Easter" (a pagan festival)?

Britain (not just England) has the 4th July, since it's part of the calendar, like every other day; it's just that we don't celebrate the violent rebellion and illegal creation of a new country on that date (or any other date).  In a similar way, we don't celebrate Bastille Day, or the Russian Revolution.

The 31st Oct. is Reformation Day, if anyone knows or cares any more, not that anyone has to celebrate that either, but at least it's much better than celebrating witchcraft on Halloween.

Of course.  But we use what's there . . .

Edited December 10, 2022 by Vine Abider
Clarity

[OneLight]

The birth of Christ should be celebrated every single day of the year. including December 25th. 

It appears, as adults, we ourselves have allowed the joy of His birth to become a battleground: Which day was He born?; Tree or no tree?; Turkey or ham? ... even down to which songs we should sing.  Sad, we have become. 

Take a child who is just a couple of years old.  They know nothing about the birth of Jesus or God for that matter.  They know nothing about why a tree is put up inside a house and decorated with lights, bulbs, tinsel, and other objects, topped off with a star.  All they know is it looks pretty and gives them a sense of joy and happiness.  They learn new songs to sing, simple songs that also bring them joy and happiness.  They learn about Santa, or St. Nickolas, and all the little helpers who make toys.  Are they worshiping some pagan idea? 

As we grow and gain knowledge, we turn those pleasant memories into darkness when we replace the true joy we felt with regret by removing what we saw and felt as a child and condemn it with something we had absolutely no knowledge about.  In truth, we lie to ourselves about our past as we try to shape our present and future.  Now we sit in our high place of knowledge, all puffed up, and judge the simplicity of a child's heart, and we call it good.

The birth of Christ should be celebrated every single day of the year. including December 25th. 

 

[missmuffet]

2 hours ago, tim_from_pa said:

Yes, I read this from "Got Questions".  The difference between decorating a Christmas tree and making an idol is just skipping the carving step.  So as I jested, if we "skip one step" does that make it any better?  And there's still the question that needs to be asked, if there's no power to do good nor evil in this thing, then what's the point of having it?  Frankly, I don't care if anyone has one or not as most people think it's just a pretty decoration and nobody I know of prays to it, either.  Rather, it's understood to be secular.  

It is not secular or pagan. A Christian can have a tree if they don't bow down and worship it. 

[David1701]

1 minute ago, missmuffet said:

It is not secular or pagan. A Christian can have a tree if they don't bow down and worship it. 

There's no law against putting up a tree and having fairy lights, witching balls and tinsel on it; but, is it done to please God, because it's what God wants, or for other reasons?

[Vine Abider]

5 minutes ago, David1701 said:

There's no law against putting up a tree and having fairy lights, witching balls and tinsel on it; but, is it done to please God, because it's what God wants, or for other reasons?

Ultimately, that's the bottom line question for everything, right?  If God is telling you to do, then there's profit in it.  If not, then none.

[missmuffet]

23 minutes ago, David1701 said:

There's no law against putting up a tree and having fairy lights, witching balls and tinsel on it; but, is it done to please God, because it's what God wants, or for other reasons?

We do everything to glorify God. If a Christmas tree reminds us of His birth then that is ok.

[David1701]

13 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

We do everything to glorify God. If a Christmas tree reminds us of His birth then that is ok.

I'm pleased that the reason you put up a tree is to glorify God.  The questions are: how do you know that that is what he wants?; and, what makes you think that it glorifies him?