HCQ works … Facebook has now admitted it!

[one.opinion]

24 minutes ago, nebula said:

We know all the information was manipulated.

How do “we” know this? If you have verifiable knowledge of a worldwide cabal, I’d be interested in seeing it.

26 minutes ago, nebula said:

The virus came from the Wuhan lab, not naturally from a bat.

There is a lot of speculation on this topic. The truth is, we don’t know exactly where it came from, but most experts (people with far more expertise than mine in epidemiology) believe it most likely spilled over from the wet market in Wuhan into the human population.

36 minutes ago, nebula said:

The "first case" of the disease, as reported, in the US appeared in a nursing home

“On January 19, 2020, a 35-year-old man presented to an urgent care clinic in Snohomish County, Washington, with a 4-day history of cough and subjective fever. On checking into the clinic, the patient put on a mask in the waiting room. After waiting approximately 20 minutes, he was taken into an examination room and underwent evaluation by a provider. He disclosed that he had returned to Washington State on January 15 after traveling to visit family in Wuhan, China.”

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7092802/
 

I don’t know for certain, but I do not believe the 35 year old man was in a nursing home.

I’ll read and respond to more later.

[one.opinion]

2 hours ago, nebula said:

Congress allocated bonus money to hospitals and medical facilities for each Cv-19 patient who died in their facility.

The fact that you call this “bonus money” reveals that you really didn’t understand the situation at the time and your understanding has not improved since. COVID patients were incredibly taxing on facilities (equipment and space) as well as the physical and emotional well-being of hospital employees. No one involved with patient care would consider this “bonus money”.

The second thing that stands out about this statement is that it is another major example of misinformation being accepted as fact and repeated. Hospitals did NOT receive additional money for COVID deaths, but based on the COVID treatments they provided.

https://www.aha.org/news/blog/2020-11-02-aha-continues-debunk-false-claims-about-covid-19-deaths-and-payments

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-pandemic-hospitals-medicare-157398144949

In other words, there was ZERO financial motive for hospitals to inflate death claims.

I can’t decide if it is more astonishing or sad that these lies are still reported on a purportedly Christian website four years after they were corrected.

I’m done for now, may come back for more disappointing reading and commentary later.

[Sparks]

On 12/27/2024 at 12:59 AM, nebula said:

I believe calling it a vaccine was a peddle to get people to accept it, even though it did not perform as vaccines up until this point have performed.

The fact that the establishment had to change the definition in order to fit the performance of this jab says a lot in that regard.

Yes, the if my memory serves, the president of Bayer actually said this out loud at a speech.  I think it was Bayer executive Stefan Oelrich in 2021 that said mRNA shots are a gene therapy, but they were renamed to vaccine to be accepted.  The main stream media went into damage control when he said it, but I heard him say it.  He was clear enough.

[Sparks]

On 12/26/2024 at 7:04 PM, one.opinion said:

This isn’t true. Breakthrough infections are a factor with all vaccines. That’s why “immunity” really isn’t a great word in dealing with vaccines. Obviously, the “immune system” doesn’t make us immune to infection, either.

If you are infected by a virus, and survive it, your immune system will remember the virus, and will destroy it again if it shows up again.  That's what immune systems do.

If you want to say that breakthrough infections happen with vaccines, you are also admitting vaccines don't work.  You inject, get a good 'immune response,' are exposed to the same virus after a couple of weeks, and the vaccine fails anyway. 

[Sparks]

14 hours ago, one.opinion said:

There is no reasonable comparison between the number of lives lost to the virus versus those lost to the vaccines.

Well, not any reasonable ones that you didn't fear to look at.  You should include that idea when you make claims like this. 

14 hours ago, one.opinion said:

Incidentally, the traditional COVID vaccines have not been nearly as safe as the mRNA vaccines.

Neither are safe, nor effective. 

[one.opinion]

7 hours ago, Sparks said:

If you are infected by a virus, and survive it, your immune system will remember the virus, and will destroy it again if it shows up again.  That's what immune systems do.

That’s what immune systems do MOST of the time. Breakthroughs can and do happen, just like with vaccines, particularly in immune compromised individuals.

The advantage of vaccines is that your immune system can be made ready to fight a pathogen faster and more effectively without the risk involved in an initial infection.

[one.opinion]

7 hours ago, Sparks said:

Neither are safe, nor effective.

You believe this because you disregard facts and data and choose instead to believe the evidence-free conspiracies of supposed whistle blowers.

[Sparks]

3 hours ago, one.opinion said:

That’s what immune systems do MOST of the time. Breakthroughs can and do happen, just like with vaccines, particularly in immune compromised individuals.

A breakthrough describes a condition of a failed vaccine, only.  There is nothing to break through with your own immune system, weak or not.

A breakthrough infection is a case of illness in which a vaccinated individual becomes infected with the illness, because the vaccine has failed to provide complete immunity against the pathogen (currently only viruses).  -- Wikipedia

4 hours ago, one.opinion said:

The advantage of vaccines is that your immune system can be made ready to fight a pathogen faster and more effectively without the risk involved in an initial infection.

Except in the case of mRNA vaccines, which are not vaccines at all and are gene therapies, and which don't work to immunize, protect, or prevent spread the disease.  Everything breaks through with mRNA.

4 hours ago, one.opinion said:

You believe this because you disregard facts and data...

Haha!  You are such a Liberal!  Liberals famously accuse others of doing exactly what they are doing.  Why do you guys do that? 

How many times have I asked you to look at the Congressional report about the Plandemic and Whistle Blowers, and you have openly refused!?  It is YOU who ignores facts and data!  You can point your finger right at yourself on this one.

[one.opinion]

1 hour ago, Sparks said:

A breakthrough describes a condition of a failed vaccine, only.  There is nothing to break through with your own immune system, weak or not.

Po-tay-to/po-tah-to - Whatever you want to call it, you can most certainly be reinfected with a pathogen your immune system has already warded off.

1 hour ago, Sparks said:

It is YOU who ignores facts and data!

I’m not the one making up 20 million deaths based on speculative testimony of a single “whistleblower” while simultaneously ignoring data from hospitals all over the world. Nah, your accusations are garbage.

[one.opinion]

1 hour ago, Sparks said:

How many times have I asked you to look at the Congressional report about the Plandemic and Whistle Blowers

I’ll tell you what - pull out the relevant section of the 557 page report you want me to read that leads you to believe that the vaccines were ineffective. Let’s discuss that a bit. Otherwise, you are just using the report as a smokescreen.