Daniel 4:15 Iron and brass rings

[Charlie744]

On 11/4/2021 at 5:38 PM, Sotera said:

The answer to your question is in the story itself and to unlock it, you simply need to recognize that the story is a bible template.

First, write out the story and then add in any details that you can remember about Nebuchadnezzar.

So, for instance, we are told in Jeremiah 27 that Nebuchadnezzar is "God's servant" and that God put him over all the nations.  Yet in Daniel it is written that, because of his failure to give glory to the most high, he was cast down and driven out of the kingdom appointed to him.  He was given the mind of a beast and then spent 7 years wandering the wilderness.  His hair grew like eagle's feathers and his nails like bird's claws.  When his term was up, his mind was returned to him upon which he praised the most high God and was restored to his previous position.

The next step is to remove all the superficial elements so that you can see clearly any underlying themes.

The story is thus about a servant of God who was given power and kingship.  Yet, because the servant did not give glory to the most high, was cast down.  The servant's mind is made like that of a beast, so that he ceases to remember the power and authority that he once had and bands of iron and brass are placed around him.  A band is a binding.  Something that is used to contain or restrict.  IE. like a fence restricts a cow.  The servant then has to wander about in the enclosure until the set period of captivity is up.  During that time, his hair grows like eagle's feathers and his nails like bird's claws.  Finally, when he gives glory to the most high is given back his power and kingship.  Note the references to feathers and claws.

This template is perhaps the most profound template in the entire bible but requires a complete shift in world view in order to understand.  I would suggest starting with Job 1 and then move on to Psalms 82 and ask, "Who is God really talking to here?"  Also, read Revelation 12 very carefully and consider who the stars are that Satan cast down with his tail and what Satan is doing to them.  Bear in mind that we are told shortly thereafter that Michael cast down Satan and his Angels just prior to the woman fleeing into the wilderness.  If Satan's angels are still with him, who then are the stars that Satan cast down?  Then the question becomes, when were these stars cast down?  The clue is in the iron and bronze bindings, and once you understand this, it brings new clarity to the remarks made by Jesus about coming to get his lost sheep.

Best of Luck.

 

 

 

 

Thanks again! Here is what I have at this time: The iron band is mentioned first so it sits above the brass band. The iron band removes his connection (perceived) to his gods, but since there is only One God, the iron band prevents him from accessing God and He will not hear his cries. The brass band is not as restrictive and will allow him to continue living by still symbolically receive nutrients from the earth (an iron band on the bottom would mean certain death. These two bands  are temporary but keep him in this unusual state. Please see Leviticus 26:18-19. Also, please see Deuteronomy 28:23 which used the same metaphor BUT in contrast to Leviticus- it shows the iron band on the bottom. 

Another term to google which speaks to this metaphor is typing in ‘heaven seems like brass.’

Look forward to hearing your thoughts, Charlie