Human nature: Good or Bad?

[johnthebaptist]

Just now, ReneeIW said:

I find it immensely helpful because it reminds me of my humanity and how much I am dependent on God and prayer to live the Christian life.

 

On Judgement Day, I don't think you can blame your sin on Adam and Eve.

[ReneeIW]

1 hour ago, johnthebaptist said:

On Judgement Day, I don't think you can blame your sin on Adam and Eve.

My sins are covered with Christ’s blood. I doubt they will come up on judgement day.

[Glory To God]

3 hours ago, ReneeIW said:

What does this have to do with the topic we were discussing? This reminds me of my Philosophy professor who would bring up a verse in Deuteronomy that he believed allowed men to rape women. Or he’d say the Bible allows slavery or killing of innocent children. It would have nothing to do with the topic at hand, but he’d bring it up whenever he was challenged.

I don’t think Christians should behave that way.

As far as Paul telling women to keep quiet in church, that is a different discussion and I’m sure if you started a thread on it people would be happy to teach you about what that verse means. As for me, I’m at the point that the only things I want  to say in Church are,“Amen,Praise God, Thank you, and please forgive me.” So, if Paul was actually giving a commandment from God, that is one that would be easy for me to follow.

 

It is a foolish thing to bring up in a subject like this. For starters we are not even in a church,this is an online message forum. Although looking at the rest of that members posts on this topic I can't say i'm really surprised,confusing the inherited sin with church protocol. 

[Justin Adams]

40 minutes ago, Glory To God said:

inherited sin

Nobody inherits sin. Sure our nature IS fallen and we WILL die. But Adam's sin is for him alone. We all answer for our own misdeeds. Study some more please.

[Glory To God]

8 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Nobody inherits sin. Sure our nature IS fallen and we WILL die. But Adam's sin is for him alone. We all answer for our own misdeeds. Study some more please.

 

Adams sin and speration from God had consequences for future generations, what were they and when does it take affect? 

 

 

[Justin Adams]

7 hours ago, Fidei Defensor said:

Original Sin

A pernicious doctrine. Quite wrong.

[Glory To God]

3 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

A pernicious doctrine. Quite wrong.

 

Make a counter-argument perhaps? 

 

 

[johnthebaptist]

8 hours ago, ReneeIW said:

My sins are covered with Christ’s blood. I doubt they will come up on judgement day.

I think you will find "Judgment Day" is symbolic of those times in your life when your sins, if you haven't repented of them, will come back to bite you. The Lord expects us to learn from our mistakes. If we don't, we are disciplined.

[Justin Adams]

1 hour ago, Glory To God said:

 

Make a counter-argument perhaps? 

 

 

Why? The scriptures are plain enough. If they do not convince you I cannot.

[Glory To God]

2 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

Why? The scriptures are plain enough. If they do not convince you I cannot.

Justin, you say that but no-one in opposition to original sin,including you, has used a scripture based argument. So saying the view you are arguing for is "plain enough" without displaying any type of coherent Biblical text to support that view is invalid or not Christian. 

 

Observe my OP and how it puts together a very basic argument, from scripture, that we have a sin nature as a consequence of the fall from the Grace of God resulting from Adams sin. Could you do the Same to validate your belief?