Human nature: Good or Bad?

[Bible_Gazer]

One of the most dangerous part of humane nature is the freedom to think .

It was the best thing in the creation for God to get a true heart to love him.

Sin nature doctrine takes that freedom away in what God is trying to accomplish in mankind.

Adam and Eve had freewill and sinned without a sin nature. 

Our immoral nature or moral nature is created after we are born.

We are judged for our own sins committed, we don't die for our parents sins committed.

 

my thoughts

Edited August 2, 2020 by Bible_Gazer

[Logostician]

On 7/25/2020 at 11:53 AM, dhchristian said:

Yes we are wretched, But we were also created in the image of God, and when he created us he declared everything was very good.... There is within each of these wretches a desire for truth, justice and Love, Even the most wretched of Atheists out there yearn for these things. there is an empty place in all of us that we seek to fill where God is meant to dwell, and we try to fill this in many ways, but ONLY one WAY satisfies this emptiness, and that Way is Jesus Christ. 

I agree.  Part of being created in the image of God, or additionally to that, I believe that God put a desire to be with him in us.  And as you said, we are are not complete or satisfied until that desire is fulfilled.  We are alive physically, but spiritually asleep, or even dead (in the eternal sense) until that Union with God through Jesus occurs.  The Spirit of God gives life.  Just as the Spirit moved upon the waters at creation to create a world abounding with life, the Spirit of God must move in us in order for us to be fully alive.  We must be unified with God to be fully alive.

Gen 2:10

And God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul.

The dust is the chemical elements that make a biologically living being.  But the Spirit of God makes for a living soul.

Man is incomplete without woman (Gen 2:20-25), but both are incomplete without a Union with God.  And that must happen through a relationship with Jesus.

Jno 14:6

Jesus saith unto him, IAM the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh to the Father but through me.

Jesus is the way.  There is no other way.  He is the one that we have a God given yearning for, who bridges the great divide between man and God, by being both. 

[RonaldBruno]

On 7/26/2020 at 7:15 AM, Justin Adams said:

Think what you like, but do not tell a mother that just lost her child that the baby is in hell

But Jesus said, "Let the children alone, and do not hinder them from coming to Me; for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

We cannot allude to children being condemned. Especially children of believers. You and your household will be saved. Yet scripture also condemns the sinful and their sins passed down yo generations.

However, even children of the lost and wicked might be shown mercy. God  created them and knit them together in the womb ... for what? To die of starvation or disease and then be condemned to destruction? They are incapable of understanding and receiving forgiveness until the age of a accountability - whatever that may be? Most kids can't distinguish between reality and fantasy until about 8 years old, let alone know that they are a sinner and in need of a Savior.

We do know that thise who are on His list in the Book of Life will be saved. So whether they be infants or adults, only God knows who will be saved. I woukd go as far to say that a child of a Christian is definitely saved.

 

[RonaldBruno]

The world is like dirty rags. Some will be washed and some burned up.

Made in the image of God is spiritual in nature: your soul (which is your  will, emotions, mind) and your spirit (which is a compartment within the soul that enable you to commune with God).

Animals have a soul but not a spirit. 

The flesh is body and soul. When we are saved, it is the spiritual portion of our soul that is cleansed. Then the Holy Spirit sanctifies daily the rest of your soul until you die and your spirit goes to be with the Lord.

Remember sin dwells in the members of our flesh - even after we are saved so we must mortify it, die to it daily.

Thankfully, our spirit at the time of being born again, is washed and eternally secure.