Biblical Teachings - Equal Footing?

[johnthebaptist]

2 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said:

What are we to use to sift with, ...our own personal heresies?

You can't learn much if you label things you disagree with as heresy.

[johnthebaptist]

1 minute ago, DustyRoad said:

Study to show yourself approved, @johnthebaptist. Surely you can identify the error of your opinion. As for the rest of it, @JustPassingThru offers scriptural advice, not his opinion. No need to repeat it again.  

 

Until you open your mind to learn, you will not have the peace the Lord intended for us all.

[JustPassingThru]

4 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

If you are here to learn, then you welcome opinions that differ from your own. If my opinion is in error, all you have to do is prove it. To prohibit people from expressing opinions you disagree with, calling them heresy, isn't constructive.

Oh lal lal, ...please read what I said and don't misquote me, ...I said the Holy Spirit said, ...opinions are heresy.

You want proof:

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who secretly will bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing on themselves swift destruction.  2 Pet 2:1

 

[JustPassingThru]

So, answer the question for us, ...what shall we "use" to sift with?

If its not the Word of God, ...what is it???

A warm fuzzy feelīng?

Or are own carnal sin tainted intellect?

[johnthebaptist]

7 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said:

Oh lal lal, ...please read what I said and don't misquote me, ...I said the Holy Spirit said, ...opinions are heresy.

You want proof:

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who secretly will bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing on themselves swift destruction.  2 Pet 2:1

 

And when did I call myself a prophet?

[enoob57]

On 4/16/2020 at 8:16 AM, johnthebaptist said:

Would you put the teachings of Paul and Peter on equal footing with the teachings of God and Jesus?

yes God does
 

2 Tim 3:15-17

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
KJV
 

[enoob57]

59 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

If we are here to learn, then we welcome differing opinions. We sift through each other’s words to find the truth.

If the standard for truth is the individual then many different standards exist for truth .... this is not what Jesus taught
 

John 17:8-20

8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.

14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
KJV
 

18 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

Until you open your mind to learn, you will not have the peace the Lord intended for us all.

God says we are born in a fallen world where a liar is in control and we ourselves have no defense from such lies.... so what are we opening our minds to exactly?

[JustPassingThru]

Just now, johnthebaptist said:

And when did I call myself a prophet?

Please stop changīng the subject with straw man arguments...

Just answer the question...

What are we to use?

Friend, I'm not being argumentative, ...you said you were here to learn, ...I'm asking you a question to open your eyes as to what you are asking, ...do we use men's ideas and interpretations about the Word of God or should we listen to the Author of the Book?

[johnthebaptist]

6 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

If the standard for truth is the individual then many different standards exist for truth .... this is not what Jesus taught
 

John 17:8-20

8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.

14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
KJV
 

God says we are born in a fallen world where a liar is in control and we ourselves have no defense from such lies.... so what are we opening our minds to exactly?

Are you here to learn, or are you here to insist we all agree with you?

[johnthebaptist]

5 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said:

Please stop changīng the subject with straw man arguments...

Just answer the question...

What are we to use?

Friend, I'm not being argumentative, ...you said you were here to learn, ...I'm asking you a question to open your eyes as to what you are asking, ...do we use men's ideas and interpretations about the Word of God or should we listen to the Author of the Book?

If you can't win the debate, call your opponent a heretic, right? I stand by all the teachings of Jesus and God.