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My favourite topic, because we can discuss & argue words & interpretation all day long, but with gematria, it cannot be changed, otherwise you could start saying 2+2=5, which is crazy!

For those thinking what the heck is gematria? You have to go to the hebrew & greek, & they each have numbers assigned to each letter. In hebrew aleph- teyth are 1-9. Yod-tsade goes up in 10's to 90, koph-tav is 100-400. Similar with greek although they go up to 800 being omega.

In the name I use Yeshua153, is gematria, & one of few to be seen as a number, of the fish caught in Jn21. As my 1st example, going back to Adam- Israel (Jacob) the 22 generations, & here they all are with their numerical values;

Adam  -  A  =  1     D = 4    M = 40                                                                                     =    45

Seth    -  S  =  300    TH  =  400                                                                                        =   700

Enosh  -  E = 1   N =  50   V  =  6   S  =  300                                                                     =   357

Cainan    -  K   =  100   Y  =  10   N  =  50   N  =  50                                                         =   210

Mahalel  -  M  =  40   H  =  5   L  =  30   L  =  30  A  =  1   L  =  30                                 =    136

Jared   -   Y  =  10    R  =  200   D  =  4                                                                            =    214

Enoch  -  CH  =  8   N  =  50   V  =  6   K  =  20                                                              =      84

Methusalah  - M = 40  TH = 400  V = 6  S = 300  L = 30  CH = 8                                =    784

Lamech  -  L  =  30   M  =  40   K  =  20                                                                        =      90

Noah   -   N  =  50    CH  =  8                                                                                         =      58

Shem   -   SH  =  300   M  =  40                                                                                    =    340

Arphaxad  -  A  =  1  R  =  200  P  =  80  K  =  20  S  =  300  D  =  4                            =    605

Salah  -   S  =  300    L  =  30   H  =  8                                                                          =    338

Eber   -   AY  =  70   B  =  2   R  =  200                                                                         =    272

Peleg   -   P  =  80   L  =  30   G =  3                                                                             =    113

Reu   -   R  =  200   AY =  70   V  =  6                                                                           =    276

Serug   -   S  =  300   R  =  200   V  =  6    G  =  3                                                        =    509

Nahor   -  N  =  50   H  =  8   V  =  6   R  =  200                                                          =    264

Terah   -   T  =  400    R  =  200    H  =  8                                                                   =    608

Abraham  -  A  =  1  B  =  2  R  =  200  H  =  5  M  =  40                                            =    248

Isaac   -   Y  =  10   TS  =  90   H  =  8   K  =  100                                                       =    208

Israel   -  Y  =  10   S  =  300  R  =  200  A  =  1   L  =  30                                           =    541

TOTAL -  Number of completion                                                                              =   7000

What an awesome exact God!

Of course, it would not of worked with Abram & Jacob, being there original, but not spiritual names.

 

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             I've studied gematria for around 15yrs, after I stopped going to church, (because none preach the truth), & 153 is the most amazing, outside of God's numerical design of Gen1v1, with all the 7's & 37's. The most obvious in the bible are the 7's, but also in life, days of week, musical alphabet, colours of rainbow etc, all of which indicate, like the bible, completeness. This is the case with 153, that represents God's elect predestined church, where the net was not broken. When you think God would have had to have been in the lives of the fish, to get exactly 153 to swim in the net, just as He would have had to arrange for my parents to have me!
                                Here's where the 7 comes in, as Jn21 mentions 7 disciples that went fishing, so if you multiply 7x153 = 1071, which is the same total as joint heirs in Rom 8v17 & 1Pet 3v7, as we are them & sons of God, adopted. When you see other words that total 1071, you see God's design; testimony, bread, witness, & loaves.
                               I don't know how much you know that 153 is a narcissistic number, if you add up the 1st 17 numbers together ( 1+2+3etc) =153. The factor 5 being 1x1 up to 5 = 153. If you cube 153; 1x1x1=1, 5x5x5=125, 3x3x3=27 total 153. Yeshua's greek name Iesous =888, meaning new beginnings, if you cube 888, 5 times, which is totals 1536, 369, 972,1080 & 513, which as you can see is 153 mixed up, 5 = fish or heirs, so in Yeshua's name is 153, as you cannot cube past it.

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7 hours ago, Yeshua153 said:

My favourite topic, because we can discuss & argue words & interpretation all day long, but with gematria, it cannot be changed, otherwise you could start saying 2+2=5, which is crazy!

I hope you are not worshipping at the shrine of numerology, Yeshua153.

21 minutes ago, Yeshua153 said:

I've studied gematria for around 15yrs,

Have you studied triangular numbers in their columns and rows? 

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I, too, like numbers and figures but I like the kind that are a little easier to understand as I don't have the time to decipher numbers that have no relevance to my daily walk with God or spreading the Gospel. I did a little research into the Greek numbering system on an occasion for a discussion on the Revelation of John. I came across some references to the Hebrew one as well and all I'll say is I'm glad I don't have to understand either. The problem with figures is that while figures never lie you have to beware of liars who figure, so I just stick to figures that I understand so I don't have to worry about that.

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3 hours ago, Yeshua153 said:

I don't know how much you know that 153 is a narcissistic number, if you add up the 1st 17 numbers together ( 1+2+3etc) =153. The factor 5 being 1x1 up to 5 = 153. If you cube 153; 1x1x1=1, 5x5x5=125, 3x3x3=27 total 153. Yeshua's greek name Iesous =888, meaning new beginnings, if you cube 888, 5 times, which is totals 1536, 369, 972,1080 & 513, which as you can see is 153 mixed up, 5 = fish or heirs, so in Yeshua's name is 153, as you cannot cube past it.

I knew that! Actually I didn't and I could study til the day I die and still wouldn't. I'm lucky to remember my own passwords.

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6 hours ago, Yeshua153 said:

         I don't know how much you know that 153 is a narcissistic number,

It requires some cathexis by observers to agree to such "wisdom" as it was known in Babylon.   

cathexis
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psychoanalysis
  1. the concentration of mental energy on one particular person, idea, or object (especially to an unhealthy degree).
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5 hours ago, Michael37 said:

I hope you are not worshipping at the shrine of numerology, Yeshua153.

Have you studied triangular numbers in their columns and rows? 

To your 1st point, I will leave shrines to the RC's & pagans, it's God's numerology, I'm interested in, as when He told Moses to write down the 1st 5 books, he would have had no clue to the mathematical & geometric structure, especially in Gen1v1 & it's link with Jn1v1, even though different language, they come together to make the perfect triangular numbers, being 2701  = 37x73 for Gen1v1 & 3627  for Jn1v1. 2701 + 3627 = 6328. The fact that 2701 is the 73rd triangular number, & 3627 is not, but fits perfectly underneath, making a larger 112th triangular number.

Also in Jn1v1 the 'Word' has the gematria of 373, mirroring itself from 37x73. Amazingly, the fabric of the universe, from energy, tome all we see around, the particles of the universe, like electrons, quarks, gluons etc, have been created from 37 blueprints called 'quantum electrical fields', which is down our designer, God in all His glory, placing all those 3's, 7's &37's in the 1st verse.

Yes I have studied triangular numbers, indicating our triune God. Look at Iesous = 888 = 24x37 & Christos = 1480 = 40x37. The word wisdom is chokmah in hebrew & adds to 73, the ordinal numbers,(where it appears in the hebrew alphabet) is 37!

Just as an add on, 37 is the 12th prime number, & 73 is 21st prime number, all reflective of God's glory, not forgetting the star & hexagonal numbers, that also appear in every single snowflake, Job 38v22.

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7 hours ago, Yeshua153 said:
             I've studied gematria for around 15yrs, after I stopped going to church, (because none preach the truth),

None preach the truth? Is that biblical truth or what ever version of truth you accept?

Please follow this link:-

https://www.christianityexplored.org/Groups/276341/Home/CE_ORG/Find_a_Course/Find_a_Course.aspx

Within 30 miles of Peterborough there are 27 Churches signed up to the Christianity explored course, a basic evangelical explanation of Christianity.

 

Have you visited all these churches?

Please can you say what error they teach?

Also if you use:-https://shipoffools.com/mystery-worshipper/

You can inform others of your experience.


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2 hours ago, Who me said:

None preach the truth? Is that biblical truth or what ever version of truth you accept?

Please follow this link:-

https://www.christianityexplored.org/Groups/276341/Home/CE_ORG/Find_a_Course/Find_a_Course.aspx

Within 30 miles of Peterborough there are 27 Churches signed up to the Christianity explored course, a basic evangelical explanation of Christianity.

 

Have you visited all these churches?

Please can you say what error they teach?

Also if you use:-https://shipoffools.com/mystery-worshipper/

You can inform others of your experience.

Biblical truth, & I was frustrated with local churches of anglican, baptist & pentecostal, as they all celebrated pagan festivals of xmas & easter, which is enough to put me off, along with the 'get saved' one time doctrine. For years it was like having a jigsaw puzzle of a few pieces, & not seeing what the picture is, until 15yrs ago, of diligent study, & seeing the picture unfold. Now in those previous 30yrs, God allowed me to make the mistakes of putting up with different doctrine, & is now maturing me in faith. 

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