Angles_How powerful_Are they..?

[7Dove77]

Isaiah 37:36)-Then the angel went forth,and smite in the camp the Assyrians a hundred a four score and five thousand and when they arose early in the morning,behold,they were alldead corpses.

Note)-1 angel , 185,000 men.

The math:

185,000/ 12=15416.66 per hour.

15416.66/ 60=256.94 per minute.

256.94/  60=4.28 per second.

 

So,How many angels are there?

Rev 5:11)-And ,behold,and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beast and the Elders , and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand,and thousands and thousands.

 

Note)- I know what side Ide want to be on....Therefore,before any human being decides they want to harm or oppress another, They should carefully consider to who it is they will now be held accountable.. Any who hurt subjects of Jesus Kingdom.

 

Isaiah 2:4)-And he shall judge among the Nations,and shall rebuke man,people.

 

2 Peter 2:11)- Angles are greater in power and might than man.

 

Psalms 103:20)-Excel in strength.

2 Thess 1:7)-Mighty.

2 Kings 19:35)-Angles killed 185,000.

Matt 28:1-7)-Roled back Jesus tomb stone.

Isaiah 37:38)-If one angel.

Matt 26:53)-Can do this damage how much do you suppose a legion of them could do?

 

Makes me think,the greatness of God.,and the mighty Power,in ALL HIS CREATION....

 

Blessings,With Gods Grace,

7Dove77

[Willa]

Jesus could have called 10,000 angels when he was on the cross.  But He submitted to God's will not His own.  I vaguely remember that 10,000 was a legion.  The reason He is callrd Lord of Hosts is because of His authority over angels, and He is still in charge of 2/3 of them.  But even the demons tremble at His Name and obey Him when confronted.   He said that all authority in heaven and in earth had been given to Him when He told the apostles to go and preach the Gospel.  Jesus is really cool, to be that powerful yet love us so much that He died for us.  Amazing grace! 

[Retrobyter]

11 hours ago, Willa said:

Jesus could have called 10,000 angels when he was on the cross.  But He submitted to God's will not His own.  I vaguely remember that 10,000 was a legion.  The reason He is callrd Lord of Hosts is because of His authority over angels, and He is still in charge of 2/3 of them.  But even the demons tremble at His Name and obey Him when confronted.   He said that all authority in heaven and in earth had been given to Him when He told the apostles to go and preach the Gospel.  Jesus is really cool, to be that powerful yet love us so much that He died for us.  Amazing grace! 

Shabbat shalom, Willa.

You really need to go back and look up the things you're "remembering." Here's the verse:

Matthew 26:51-54
51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear.
52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
54 But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
KJV

And, a Roman legion was said to be as many as 6,000 men. See this site about Romans. NOW, do the math: That would be MORE THAN 12 x 6000 angels = MORE THAN 72,000 angels!

You're "remembering" words of a SONG! "He could have called ten thousand angels to destroy the world and set Him free! He could have called ten thousand angels; but He died alone for you and me." You can hear it here on YouTube.

Also, you need to understand that the "Gospel," the "Good News," that Yeshua` "preached" or rather "heralded," was about God's KINGDOM primarily for Israel, and secondarily for the world! It was NOT about the Messiah dying and being raised to life! That was added later! Let's consider the chronological order of the following verses:

Mark 1:14-15
14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching (heralding) the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
KJV

Luke 9:1-6
1 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.
2 And he sent them to preach (herald) the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.
3 And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece.
4 And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart.
5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.
6 And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where.
KJV

Luke 10:1-17
1 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
3 Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
4 Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.
5 And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.
6 And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.
7 And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
8 And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you:
9 And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
10 But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say,
11 Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
12 But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city.
13 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
14 But it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment, than for you.
15 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.
16 He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.

(Time passed...)

17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
KJV

Luke 22:67-71; 23:1-4
67 Art thou the Christ? tell us. And he said unto them, If I tell you, ye will not believe:
68 And if I also ask you, ye will not answer me, nor let me go.
69 Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.
70 Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.

HOW did they say that? By bringing Him to their trial and even asking Him whether He WAS the Christ - the Messiah of God - the Son of God anointed to be the King!

71 And they said, What need we any further witness? for we ourselves have heard of his own mouth.
23:1 And the whole multitude of them arose, and led him unto Pilate.
2 And they began to accuse him, saying, We found this fellow perverting the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, saying that he himself is Christ a King.
3 And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered him and said, Thou sayest it.
4 Then said Pilate to the chief priests and to the people, I find no fault in this man.
KJV

Pilate recognized what wise Yeshua` was saying. In the asking is the answer, and he came to the RIGHT conclusion. The Jewish judges had come to a PREDETERMINED sentence based on their PREJUDICE! They heard what they WANTED to hear!

Luke 23:44-46
44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.
45 And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst.
46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
KJV

It's not until THIS point that Yeshua` died! And, His resurrection was yet to come! So, what could this "gosel of the Kingdom" be?

Isaiah 52:7-10
7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
8 Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD shall bring again Zion.
9 Break forth into joy, sing together, ye waste places of Jerusalem: for the LORD hath comforted his people, he hath redeemed Jerusalem.
10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.
KJV

It was simply something they read EVERY 7th of the month Elul each year, as part of the Haftarah (Shoftim section) reading! THEY KNEW IT WELL! 

I think you were specifically referring to the Great Commission after His resurrection:

Mark 16:15-20
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach (herald) the gospel (good news) to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 .They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
20 And they went forth, and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
KJV

Otherwise, I totally agree with you! He IS "really cool!"

[missmuffet]

Some information on angels.

Question: "What does the Bible say about angels?"

Answer: Angels are personal spiritual beings who have intelligence, emotions, and will. This is true of both the good and evil angels (demons). Angels possess intelligence (Matthew 8:29; 2 Corinthians 11:3; 1 Peter 1:12), show emotion (Luke 2:13; James 2:19; Revelation 12:17), and exercise will (Luke 8:28-31; 2 Timothy 2:26; Jude 6). Angels are spirit beings (Hebrews 1:14) without true physical bodies. Although they do not have physical bodies, they are still personalities.

Because they are created beings, their knowledge is limited. This means they do not know all things as God does (Matthew 24:36). They do seem to have greater knowledge than humans, however, which may be due to three things. First, angels were created as an order of creatures higher than humans. Therefore, they innately possess greater knowledge. Second, angels study the Bible and the world more thoroughly than humans do and gain knowledge from it (James 2:19; Revelation 12:12). Third, angels gain knowledge through long observation of human activities. Unlike humans, angels do not have to study the past; they have experienced it. Therefore, they know how others have acted and reacted in situations and can predict with a greater degree of accuracy how we may act in similar circumstances.

Though they have wills, angels, like all creatures, are subject to the will of God. Good angels are sent by God to help believers (Hebrews 1:14). Here are some activities the Bible ascribes to angels:

They praise God (Psalm 148:1-2; Isaiah 6:3). They worship God (Hebrews 1:6; Revelation 5:8-13). They rejoice in what God does (Job 38:6-7). They serve God (Psalm 103:20; Revelation 22:9). They appear before God (Job 1:6; 2:1). They are instruments of God's judgments (Revelation 7:1; 8:2). They bring answers to prayer (Acts 12:5-10). They aid in winning people to Christ (Acts 8:26; 10:3). They observe Christian order, work, and suffering (1 Corinthians 4:9; 11:10; Ephesians 3:10; 1 Peter 1:12). They encourage in times of danger (Acts 27:23-24). They care for the righteous at the time of death (Luke 16:22).

Angels are an entirely different order of being than humans. Human beings do not become angels after they die. Angels will never become, and never were, human beings. God created the angels, just as He created humanity. The Bible nowhere states that angels are created in the image and likeness of God, as humans are (Genesis 1:26). Angels are spiritual beings that can, to a certain degree, take on physical form. Humans are primarily physical beings, but with a spiritual aspect. The greatest thing we can learn from the holy angels is their instant, unquestioning obedience to God’s commands.

http://www.gotquestions.org/angels-Bible.html

 

 

[kwikphilly]

Blessings Dove,,,,,,

    The simple answer(imo) is ,,,,,,much more powerful than WE could ever imagine-lol     But ,not hardly even close to the ALL POWERFUL & ALMIGHTY GOD!!!!!!!                      Amazing,just amazing,,,,,can't wait to hear them singing out "Holy Holy Holy,

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“And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.” (Revelations 4:8)

                                                         Halleluyah!!!! Hosannah in the Highest!!!!                 With love-in Christ,Kwik

[Willa]

Retrobyter, You are right.  I must have been very tired or in a hurry.  I was thinking of the song.

But I don't believe the gospel of salvation was added later according to Isaiah describing the Suffering Servant.  I believe it came first.  The Gospel of the Christ as King over Jerusalem is still to come.  But Jesus did provide the way for all of us to enter God's Kingdom by following Him.  

The Gospel in Isaiah 53: NKJV 

Who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?  Isa 53:2  For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant, And as a root out of dry ground. He has no form or comeliness; And when we see Him, There is no beauty that we should desire Him.

Isa 53:3  He is despised and rejected by men, A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.  Isa 53:4  Surely He has borne our griefs And carried our sorrows; Yet we esteemed Him stricken, Smitten by God, and afflicted.  

Isa 53:5  But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed.  Isa 53:6  All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, every one, to his own way; And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.  Isa 53:7  He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He opened not His mouth; He was led as a lamb to the slaughter, And as a sheep before its shearers is silent, So He opened not His mouth.  Isa 53:8  He was taken from prison and from judgment, And who will declare His generation? For He was cut off from the land of the living; For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.

Isa 53:9  And they made His grave with the wicked— But with the rich at His death, Because He had done no violence, Nor was any deceit in His mouth.  Isa 53:10  Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand.

Isa 53:11  He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, For He shall bear their iniquities.Isa 53:12  Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, And He shall divide the spoil with the strong, Because He poured out His soul unto death, And He was numbered with the transgressors, And He bore the sin of many, And made intercession for the transgressors.

 

Luke 17:20  Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation;  Luk 17:21  nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you."

Jn 18:36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here."

Since God had known from eternity that Adam would sin and the Jews would at first reject their King,  He had prepared for the Word to be made flesh and suffer for the sins of mankind; so I really believe that the plan for this kingdom was to come first.

 

Sorry we got off track.  Hebrews 1:5-9  NKJV

For to which of the angels did He ever say: "YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU"? And again: "I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON"?

Heb 1:6  But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: "LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM."

Heb 1:7  And of the angels He says: "WHO MAKES HIS ANGELS SPIRITS AND HIS MINISTERS A FLAME OF FIRE."

Heb 1:8  But to the Son He says: "YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER; A SCEPTER OF RIGHTEOUSNESS IS THE SCEPTER OF YOUR KINGDOM.

Heb 1:9  YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS MORE THAN YOUR COMPANIONS."

 

[Ezra]

Angels are very powerful creatures, yet they are "ministering spirits" available to help Christians (heirs of salvation). The holy angels are totally submitted to doing God's will.

[angels4u]

3 hours ago, algots said:

The question isn't how powerful are the angels, but rather how powerful do we think we are?

We are under the delusion that we can tell God what to do.

 

Algot who is under that delusion to tell God what to do?

Angels do what God tells them to do and it is God who gives them the power of what they can do and it' God who sends them out  to do His job whenever He wants . So are they powerful? God created each one of them to His will and gives them the power they need!

[Ezra]

Angles_How powerful_Are they..?

There is a typo here.

[Ezra]

11 minutes ago, angels4u said:

Algot who is under that delusion to tell God what to do?

Good question.  I have not seen anyone claiming that they can tell God what to do.