Evidence for god

[ARGOSY]

13 minutes ago, Goldenshark123 said:

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If I were god, I would not use prophets. I would simply appear every few years or so to prove my existance, or intervene in world affairs to show that I care ect. If I did have to use prophets I would get them to write proof of things I have done and show that only I could do them and get multiple forms of evidence.

We are privilidged to be able to die, there were billions of people who would not even have the opportunity to live or die. Be grateful that stars exploded to that you could be here today.

 

This is an age when faith is required, not proof. Sure we can put forward some evidence but only a true and honest seeker will find God in this age. The rest will find excuses even though just enough evidence does exist.  God does not want to be proven He wants to show Himself to the true seekers. God will reveal Himself to the honest and repentant ones with honest hearts. Not to those who use their intellect to find excuses for the evidence presented. Be open, some compelling evidence has already been presented.

[Goldenshark123]

So god reveals himself only to the people stupid enough to believe the lies his religion has spread. In this age, faith needs to be wiped out. In my country, more young people are seeing reason and becoming atheist

[ARGOSY]

1 minute ago, Goldenshark123 said:

So god reveals himself only to the people stupid enough to believe the lies his religion has spread. In this age, faith needs to be wiped out. In my country, more young people are seeing reason and becoming atheist

No, I already said that enough evidence has been presented. Its not absolute proof but there is enough. Only the self deluding people deny the evidence and use their intellect to do so. 

The atheist position is one of greater faith than the Christian position.  Atheism requires the creation of matter/anti-matter from nothing without any workable hypothesis how this actually occurs. Atheism requires the creation of the first organism without any workable hypothesis how this actually occurs. Its impossible to have 20 extreme environments (required to produce the 20 amino acids) at the exact same tiny spot at one precise moment, making abiogenesis impossible.

So all an atheist can do is hope that God does not exist without any alternate explanation for the existence of matter/life.  This makes atheism a religion of faith and hope, without any science to back it up. Please think about that because Im speaking the obvious truth here.

[Goldenshark123]

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If you say enough evidence has been presented then where is it? Show me some. It is actually you denying the evidence that points away from god. 

Atheism is a lack of faith, we do not have faith in anything. There is plenty of evidence and we know for a fact about how antimatter and matter came to be, I suggest you look it up! It is not impossible to have the 20 extreme conditions and 20 amino acids. It is very improbable, yes but because the universe is so large, it would be almost impossible for it not to happen somewhere along the line.

I do not hope god does not exist, I would very much like it for a god to exist, the problem is that we have explained everything that god is said to have done and all evidence points away from a supernatural creator.

[ARGOSY]

16 hours ago, Goldenshark123 said:

Reply to Argosy

If you say enough evidence has been presented then where is it? Show me some. It is actually you denying the evidence that points away from god. 

Atheism is a lack of faith, we do not have faith in anything. There is plenty of evidence and we know for a fact about how antimatter and matter came to be, I suggest you look it up! It is not impossible to have the 20 extreme conditions and 20 amino acids. It is very improbable, yes but because the universe is so large, it would be almost impossible for it not to happen somewhere along the line.

I do not hope god does not exist, I would very much like it for a god to exist, the problem is that we have explained everything that god is said to have done and all evidence points away from a supernatural creator.

You ask for the evidence, I have already mentioned Daniel 11:1-35   three times in this thread. Yet may think you have debunked this, but you haven't. As I said before this is a highly detailed prophecy covering hundreds of years. Fulfilled perfectly. Due to the detail there is no chance of a "chance fulfilment".  In addition there are numerous eye witness accounts of miracles including my own life, people I know, and numerous authors of the bible. 

I have looked it up and the very experiments that claimed to copy aspects of abiogenesis merely highlighted the impossibility of it. After many years of trying they only managed to duplicate 3 of the 20 required amino acids, each in diverse and extreme conditions. Even if they could produce all 20 in the lab, its impossible to have all these 20 divrse conditions at the same place and the same time.  What you think is possible, is in fact impossible. No valid hypothesis has ever been put forward for abiogenesis , which makes the concept of abiogenesis unscientific. Its a  fanciful notion unfortunately widely popular in the scientific world. 

[gdemoss]

Debunking God by means of finite synthetic knowledge is absolute yet unwise.

[FresnoJoe]

7 minutes ago, gdemoss said:

Debunking God by means of finite synthetic knowledge....
is absolute yet unwise....

Snicker Snicker Went The Demons

Don't let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ. Colossians 2:8 (New Living Translation)

Snark Snark Went The Mocker

Do not run until your feet are bare and your throat is dry. But you said, 'It's no use! I love foreign gods, and I must go after them.' Jeremiah 2:25 (New International Version)

And Still God Calls

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (King James Version)

Come Home

"I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give this testimony to you for the churches. I am the root and descendant of David. I am the bright morning star."

The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" Let those who hear this say, "Come!" Let those who are thirsty come! Let those who want the water of life take it as a gift. Revelation 22:16-17 (GOD'S WORD® Translation)

Sinner

Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke on you and learn from me, because I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy to bear, and my load is not hard to carry.” Matthew 11:28-30

Come

So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here! All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation:

that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.

We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God. God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. 2 Corinthians 5:16-21 (New International Version)

Love, Joe

[Kan]

On 3/1/2016 at 3:16 AM, Goldenshark123 said:

Hi

Please below write any evidnce that god exists

Could you please give us an example of what you would consider evidence - undeniable proof.

[kwikphilly]

Blessings Goldenshark,,,,

      

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he history of assembled Scripture with prophecy is the best evidence... many have approached Scripture with integrity
to prove it wrong and have been converted by what they found in the empirical aspects alone!        posted by enoob

Welcome to Worthy,,,,,,,I read your response to enoob &"I've read the Bible" tells me you have not done your due diligence,I can tell you to try again with an open heart & mind but Wisdom & Understanding comes only from the Holy Spirit,not our own finite minds.I think you have made your own conlusionsand that pretty much closes the heart & mind......So,people like yourself might need more facts & documentations to open the mind for other considerations,then simply put in the effort

 There are many many records,ancient texts & documentations to verify that the accounts given in the Bible were true & accurate,research them,,,,,,,you may be very surprized at what you will find,,,,,,,Take for example the account of the "sun standing still"(time stopped)......Look in China,India & other ancient texts & see if there was a day in every calander,,,,,,,,,,,well,it is your quest,not mine......I wore out some pavement & put my time(years) in to research & study,,,,,,,,,

   If it is "evidence" you seek,,,,,,the burden of proof is not our responsibility,God has already made Himself evident,,,,,,,because you cannot see does not mean He is not there it simply means you are not looking      If I may? I have a question for you,,,,,,,give me evidence(proof) that God does not exist,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,JI am praying for you & I am glad you came here

                                                                                With love-in Christ,Kwik

   

[Goldenshark123]

Kiwikphilly

Have you read Greek Mythology? You probably have but let's just say you haven't for the context of this discussion. There is no proof that Zeus exists (Just like any god), but millions of people believed in him for a time. Do you approach greek mythology with an open mind? I imagine not as you already believe in the christian god. That's just how us atheists feel toward all religion. If evidence comes forward that Zeus, Thor, Wotan, Ra, Braman, Allah or Jesus exist, then we shall change our minds, but there is simply not any evidence that any of them exists. 

It's not up to me to prove something does not exist, it's up to you to prove he does. As if you lot don't need proof, then that justifies anything. Until proof of something comes along, it's logical to assume it does not. The main proof that god does not exist is that there is no proof to say he does. 

Thank you for talking to your imaginary friend about me, I really appreciate the gesture.

Have a nice day