Is that for me to eat

[justfaith]

 

not eating blood and unclean meat was given to noah before the covenant with Israel 

It was only magnified with Israel just like not commiting adultery etc 

 

You are right. Not consuming blood is a law given to Noah and his descendents. It is a law in the Noachide covenant.

In the Mosaic covenant given to Israel, there is a law restricting eating blood but the law is different as the blood must be spilled on the ground during slaughter. So, the law concerning blood is different in the Noachide covenant and the Mosaic covenant.

 

Christians are under the New Covenant, and the laws for the New Covenant are different then the laws for the Noachide covenant and the Mosaic covenant.

 

Does this apply to us in the new covenant even if it is under the noahic 

 

Genesis 9:6King James Version (KJV)

 

6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

[justfaith]

 

 

 

Whhy in  Genesis the 7 when the world had gone away from God, and He had decreed a flood to destroy them, man knew then the signs of separating the clean from the unclean, for unto Noah God said: "Of every clean beast thou shalt take unto thee by seven, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female." - Genesis 7:2. Is it tha  Noah knew the law in regard to this matter, or this could not have been possible.

 

After the flood both the clean and the unclean things still lived. "And Noah builded and altar unto the Lord; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar." - Genesis 8:20

 

Yes, after the flood it was noted that there were clean and unclean, or animals which were alright to make a sacrifice to God and animals which were not alright to sacrifice to God.

 

We are not told how man knew which animals were clean for sacrifice and which were not clean for sacrifice. We can assume many things but they may not be right as God does not share that information with us. Here are some possibilities. 

 

1. God gathered the animals and brought them to the ark. Of the 'clean' animals, He brought the in groups of 7. Of the unclean animals, He brought them in groups of 2.

Genesis 7:2 You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female;

It could be that Noah knew clean from unclean by the number of animals which came? After all, if Noah had sacrificed an animal which was 1 of only 2, that would have ended the species.

 

2. Going back further, sacrifice pre-dates the flood. We know that Cain did not sacrifice something which was pleasing to God. He sacrificed something of his own work. So it is logical to assume that man knew what was ok to sacrifice.

 

Animals which are clean for sacrifice do not consume blood. They are cud chewers which means they eat vegetation. The first time there is a mention of clean or unclean animals for food is in the Mosaic covenant given to the children of Israel. Again, what is clean to eat is cud chewers with a split hoof. Since the Mosaic covenant pointed to Jesus, there is symbolism within the law itself which points to Jesus. Blood is called the life. Blood was forbidden to eat, and clean animals do not consume blood either. People were commanded not to consume blood, as the blood/life does not give life to people who are dead in sin. Only the blood of Jesus gives life to sinners. So, in this vane, people were told to symbolically consume the blood of Jesus. Since we are made clean by the blood of Jesus, the need for the symbolism is no longer necessary. At, least, that is how I interpret it.     

 

Just to add to this. In the Mosaic covenant, the first born of a clean animal was to be taken to the Temple for sacrifice. The first born of an unclean animal was either to be killed or redeemed with a lamb. The symbolic message is clear. Only a clean person is fit for sacrifice.  But what is interesting is that in the verses concerning clean and unclean animals, it says that the birth of the first born male human, a fee must be paid. Humans are classified or treated as unclean and in need of redemption.   

 

Exodus 13:13 But every first offspring of a donkey you shall redeem with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, then you shall break its neck; and every firstborn of man among your sons you shall redeem.

 

Why did noah take the clean by sevens and the unclean by twos ? thanks 

 

 

Noah took 7 clean and 2 unclean because God told him to. 

 

He took seven clean so that it will have more food to eat and the unclean by two were less to clean the earth 

 

Do you think today it have more clean than unclean animals Why 

[justfaith]

 

not eating blood and unclean meat was given to noah before the covenant with Israel 

It was only magnified with Israel just like not commiting adultery etc 

 

You are right. Not consuming blood is a law given to Noah and his descendents. It is a law in the Noachide covenant.

In the Mosaic covenant given to Israel, there is a law restricting eating blood but the law is different as the blood must be spilled on the ground during slaughter. So, the law concerning blood is different in the Noachide covenant and the Mosaic covenant.

 

Christians are under the New Covenant, and the laws for the New Covenant are different then the laws for the Noachide covenant and the Mosaic covenant.

 

What does this verse means and when will it be fulfilled . "¶ For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, (or one after the other) eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory." - Isaiah 66:15-18

[Qnts2]

 

 

not eating blood and unclean meat was given to noah before the covenant with Israel 

It was only magnified with Israel just like not commiting adultery etc 

 

You are right. Not consuming blood is a law given to Noah and his descendents. It is a law in the Noachide covenant.

In the Mosaic covenant given to Israel, there is a law restricting eating blood but the law is different as the blood must be spilled on the ground during slaughter. So, the law concerning blood is different in the Noachide covenant and the Mosaic covenant.

 

Christians are under the New Covenant, and the laws for the New Covenant are different then the laws for the Noachide covenant and the Mosaic covenant.

 

What does this verse means and when will it be fulfilled . "¶ For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, (or one after the other) eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory." - Isaiah 66:15-18

 

 

Rather then a bit at a time, where are you going with this? And also, which covenant are you under?

[justfaith]

 

 

 

not eating blood and unclean meat was given to noah before the covenant with Israel 

It was only magnified with Israel just like not commiting adultery etc 

 

You are right. Not consuming blood is a law given to Noah and his descendents. It is a law in the Noachide covenant.

In the Mosaic covenant given to Israel, there is a law restricting eating blood but the law is different as the blood must be spilled on the ground during slaughter. So, the law concerning blood is different in the Noachide covenant and the Mosaic covenant.

 

Christians are under the New Covenant, and the laws for the New Covenant are different then the laws for the Noachide covenant and the Mosaic covenant.

 

What does this verse means and when will it be fulfilled . "¶ For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, (or one after the other) eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory." - Isaiah 66:15-18

 

 

Rather then a bit at a time, where are you going with this? And also, which covenant are you under?

 

Do you wish to gain the promises of the covenants or the new 

 

Ephesians 2:12-13King James Version (KJV)

 

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

 

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

[Qnts2]

 

 

 

 

not eating blood and unclean meat was given to noah before the covenant with Israel 

It was only magnified with Israel just like not commiting adultery etc 

 

You are right. Not consuming blood is a law given to Noah and his descendents. It is a law in the Noachide covenant.

In the Mosaic covenant given to Israel, there is a law restricting eating blood but the law is different as the blood must be spilled on the ground during slaughter. So, the law concerning blood is different in the Noachide covenant and the Mosaic covenant.

 

Christians are under the New Covenant, and the laws for the New Covenant are different then the laws for the Noachide covenant and the Mosaic covenant.

 

What does this verse means and when will it be fulfilled . "¶ For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, (or one after the other) eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory." - Isaiah 66:15-18

 

 

Rather then a bit at a time, where are you going with this? And also, which covenant are you under?

 

Do you wish to gain the promises of the covenants or the new 

 

Ephesians 2:12-13King James Version (KJV)

 

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

 

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

 

 

I choose the New Covenant brought by Jesus. Scripture says it is the better covenant. I was under the Mosaic covenant and now I am under the New Covenant, and I know which is the better covenant.

 

How about you? Which covenant do you choose?

[justfaith]

 

 

 

 

 

not eating blood and unclean meat was given to noah before the covenant with Israel 

It was only magnified with Israel just like not commiting adultery etc 

 

You are right. Not consuming blood is a law given to Noah and his descendents. It is a law in the Noachide covenant.

In the Mosaic covenant given to Israel, there is a law restricting eating blood but the law is different as the blood must be spilled on the ground during slaughter. So, the law concerning blood is different in the Noachide covenant and the Mosaic covenant.

 

Christians are under the New Covenant, and the laws for the New Covenant are different then the laws for the Noachide covenant and the Mosaic covenant.

 

What does this verse means and when will it be fulfilled . "¶ For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, (or one after the other) eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory." - Isaiah 66:15-18

 

 

Rather then a bit at a time, where are you going with this? And also, which covenant are you under?

 

Do you wish to gain the promises of the covenants or the new 

 

Ephesians 2:12-13King James Version (KJV)

 

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

 

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

 

 

I choose the New Covenant brought by Jesus. Scripture says it is the better covenant. I was under the Mosaic covenant and now I am under the New Covenant, and I know which is the better covenant.

 

How about you? Which covenant do you choose?

 

I chose  the covenants of promise, which includes the new 

 

What are the laws of the new that are being spoken about ?

Edited August 28, 2014 by justfaith

[justfaith]

The Lord speaks of some, " Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;" - Isaiah 65:4 (see also Isaiah 65:2-8; where the penalty is also pronounced again) Why is that ? this seems future to me unless I am wrong 

[Qnts2]

 

 

 

Do you wish to gain the promises of the covenants or the new 

 

Ephesians 2:12-13King James Version (KJV)

 

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

 

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

 

 

I choose the New Covenant brought by Jesus. Scripture says it is the better covenant. I was under the Mosaic covenant and now I am under the New Covenant, and I know which is the better covenant.

 

How about you? Which covenant do you choose?

 

I chose  the covenants of promise, which includes the new 

 

What are the laws of the new that are being spoken about ?

 

 

The covenant of promise if the New Covenant. Not covenants. There is only one New Covenant which promises eternal salvation brought by Jesus. So, I think you are confused about the various covenants given by God. If you are a Gentile, you are either under the Noachide covenant, or the New Covenant.  

 

For food laws, in the New Covenant, that would fall under the two general heading of loving God and loving your neighbor. So, we are back to the original scriptures that I posted. Peter had a vision and told to eat of what was unclean food so that he could be sent to the house of Gentiles and share the gospel and stay and eat with them. Later, we are told of our freedom to eat, but not at the cost of causing a brother to stumble, so food offered to idols (non-kosher) is permissable unless it causes a brother to stumble. That is New Covenant law.  

[justfaith]

 

 

 

 

Do you wish to gain the promises of the covenants or the new 

 

Ephesians 2:12-13King James Version (KJV)

 

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

 

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

 

 

I choose the New Covenant brought by Jesus. Scripture says it is the better covenant. I was under the Mosaic covenant and now I am under the New Covenant, and I know which is the better covenant.

 

How about you? Which covenant do you choose?

 

I chose  the covenants of promise, which includes the new 

 

What are the laws of the new that are being spoken about ?

 

 

The covenant of promise if the New Covenant. Not covenants. There is only one New Covenant which promises eternal salvation brought by Jesus. So, I think you are confused about the various covenants given by God. If you are a Gentile, you are either under the Noachide covenant, or the New Covenant.  

 

For food laws, in the New Covenant, that would fall under the two general heading of loving God and loving your neighbor. So, we are back to the original scriptures that I posted. Peter had a vision and told to eat of what was unclean food so that he could be sent to the house of Gentiles and share the gospel and stay and eat with them. Later, we are told of our freedom to eat, but not at the cost of causing a brother to stumble, so food offered to idols (non-kosher) is permissable unless it causes a brother to stumble. That is New Covenant law.  

 

what are the promises to be inherited by the other covenants ? Do you want to obtain the promises as stated in Ep that the gentiles are to obtain by the blood of the lamb ?