az mulls bill permitting business from refusing service to gays

[Burning_Ember]

 

thats funny because your advocating making a law to force behavior change looking. the people at the bakery arnt in congress demanding they outlaw gay marriage. they just refused to bake them a cake. Thats all that bakery did. yet your supporting the government FORCING them to bake the gay couple a cake?  so what your saying is your in favor of laws only if they benefit gays, who cares if they trample on christians rights? 

The states involved in the court cases have laws against discrimination regarding providing services.

 

The rulings aren't just about weddings cakes and wedding photos. If the courts in the cases I brought up said it was fine for someone to refuse service based on sexual orientation for wedding photos and wedding cake, it would mean that someone could refuse service based on sexual orientation for literally any service or product, whether that is a cake, a photo, an apartment/house rental/purchase, a car, car repairs... Literally, just about anything.

 

The states upheld the law that states that you cannot discriminate based on sexual orientation. In a phrase, your rights stop where another person's rights begins.

 

They aren't being forced to bake a cake. They are being forced to not discriminate how they provide their services.

 

The laws that were upheld in those court cases are the same ones that protect your right to not be discriminated against as a Christian, if you wanted to purchase something.

[ayin jade]

Should Christians not provide any services whatsoever to anything that would be unChristian?

 

 

By Extension, should people support business that support unChristian causes?

 

 

A Christian should not be forced to provide services to whatever they believe violates their religious principals/convictions.

 

Anyone should have the right to support or not support, peacably, any business that violates their convictions. By peacably I mean no threats, no attempts to force a business to close for good, no harm to said business. By peacably, I mean choosing not to shop at that business.

[ayin jade]

 

 

 

 

 

A wedding cake that celebrates a gay marriage does violate Christian beliefs.

 

 

It celebrates a gay marriage if you are part of the wedding. If you are making the cake it is no different than any other cake you have made, you are not celebrating anything you are providing a product in exchange for momentary compensation.   The one making the cake is celebrating nothing (besides a nice check) unless they are part of the wedding.

 

 

Making a cake is participating in the wedding preparations. 

 

 

No, it is a business transaction no different than making a birthday cake or a pizza for a retirement party.

 

 

Perhaps to you, but not to some folks. To me, making a wedding cake for a gay marriage is a violation of my religious convictions. It is not something I could do. 

[ayin jade]

 

They aren't being forced to bake a cake. They are being forced to not discriminate how they provide their services.

 

 

In some of the cases, they have been forced by the court to bake a cake. 

[LookingForAnswers]

AJ, if you were a landlord would you rent to a gay couple?

[Burning_Ember]

 

 

They aren't being forced to bake a cake. They are being forced to not discriminate how they provide their services.

 

 

In some of the cases, they have been forced by the court to bake a cake. 

 

Then they probably shouldn't have violated the rights granted to the plaintiffs by the state. See my post at the top of page 6.

[other one]

 

 

 

They aren't being forced to bake a cake. They are being forced to not discriminate how they provide their services.

 

 

In some of the cases, they have been forced by the court to bake a cake. 

 

Then they probably shouldn't have violated the rights granted to the plaintiffs by the state. See my post at the top of page 6.

 

and it seems that Arizona is rectifying a bad law.   What's wrong with that?

[ayin jade]

AJ, if you were a landlord would you rent to a gay couple?

 

I am not a landlord. I am not familiar with the laws regarding renting places or being a landlord so I cannot answer that question. 

[ayin jade]

 

 

 

They aren't being forced to bake a cake. They are being forced to not discriminate how they provide their services.

 

 

In some of the cases, they have been forced by the court to bake a cake. 

 

Then they probably shouldn't have violated the rights granted to the plaintiffs by the state. See my post at the top of page 6.

 

 

What is the protection to businesses being targeted by gays who wish to shut them down for being Christian?

[LookingForAnswers]

From a moral stand point, would you rent a house to a gay couple?