WN: Sebelius rejects enrolling in Obamacare exchanges - Washington Ti

[MorningGlory]

Obama doesn't care if it fails. That is the whole point. When it fails and it will miserably. He will be waiting in the wings  to offer single payer.

 

 

You should really look into the tactics of Saul Alinsky and Cloward and Piven. Obama taught these tactics while teaching courses as a Professor.

 

Meanwhile, if you believe that the Republicans are our Salvation and the answer to our problems you have made a huge mistake.

 

 

Truer words were never spoken; at least not in the past few years.  We need new blood in Washington because that bunch that infests Congress now are fossils and - what's that word you like, Dave? - SYCHOPHANTS!   

[Guest shiloh357]

The thing is, Sebelius was asked IF she could enroll in Obamacare, hypothetically, would she enroll.  She would not answer in the affirmative.   Even if she didn't have employer based healthcare already, even if she could enroll, she wouldn't do it. The same holds true for most of congress.  I don't think any of them would voluntarily sign up for Obamacare if they could.  When the chef won't eat the food coming out of his own kitchen, that ought to send up red flags.  

 

As for congress, it used to be that being a congressman was a bi-vocational job.  You went to DC to vote but you had a job back home and you had to live under the conditions you voted for.   You didn't get to live like the ruling elite, and get benefits paid for by taxpayers and afford a standard of living that put you out of touch with regular people.  Those days are gone forever.

[JDavis]

The thing is, Sebelius was asked IF she could enroll in Obamacare, hypothetically, would she enroll. She would not answer in the affirmative. Even if she didn't have employer based healthcare already, even if she could enroll, she wouldn't do it. The same holds true for most of congress. I don't think any of them would voluntarily sign up for Obamacare if they could. When the chef won't eat the food coming out of his own kitchen, that ought to send up red flags.

As for congress, it used to be that being a congressman was a bi-vocational job. You went to DC to vote but you had a job back home and you had to live under the conditions you voted for. You didn't get to live like the ruling elite, and get benefits paid for by taxpayers and afford a standard of living that put you out of touch with regular people. Those days are gone forever.

She didn't answer period....she like a great many people do not like to play "what if " games.

What a stupid question to ask her

[Guest shiloh357]

 

The thing is, Sebelius was asked IF she could enroll in Obamacare, hypothetically, would she enroll. She would not answer in the affirmative. Even if she didn't have employer based healthcare already, even if she could enroll, she wouldn't do it. The same holds true for most of congress. I don't think any of them would voluntarily sign up for Obamacare if they could. When the chef won't eat the food coming out of his own kitchen, that ought to send up red flags.

As for congress, it used to be that being a congressman was a bi-vocational job. You went to DC to vote but you had a job back home and you had to live under the conditions you voted for. You didn't get to live like the ruling elite, and get benefits paid for by taxpayers and afford a standard of living that put you out of touch with regular people. Those days are gone forever.

She didn't answer period....she like a great many people do not like to play "what if " games.

What a stupid question to ask her

 

Actually, it was a very good question and her refusal to answer demonstrates that she knows Obamacare is a failure.   She is the one who is charged with implementing it.  She is the head of HHS.  If there is anyone who should be a cheerleader for Obamacare it should be her.  That not even she is willing to sign up for it if given the chance, tells us that it is something none of us want.

 

LIberal are such hypocrites.

[JDavis]

 

 

The thing is, Sebelius was asked IF she could enroll in Obamacare, hypothetically, would she enroll. She would not answer in the affirmative. Even if she didn't have employer based healthcare already, even if she could enroll, she wouldn't do it. The same holds true for most of congress. I don't think any of them would voluntarily sign up for Obamacare if they could. When the chef won't eat the food coming out of his own kitchen, that ought to send up red flags.

As for congress, it used to be that being a congressman was a bi-vocational job. You went to DC to vote but you had a job back home and you had to live under the conditions you voted for. You didn't get to live like the ruling elite, and get benefits paid for by taxpayers and afford a standard of living that put you out of touch with regular people. Those days are gone forever.

She didn't answer period....she like a great many people do not like to play "what if " games.

What a stupid question to ask her

 

Actually, it was a very good question and her refusal to answer demonstrates that she knows Obamacare is a failure.   She is the one who is charged with implementing it.  She is the head of HHS.  If there is anyone who should be a cheerleader for Obamacare it should be her.  That not even she is willing to sign up for it if given the chance, tells us that it is something none of us want.

 

LIberal are such hypocrites.

 

 

"what if" questing are never very good questions, they are normaly the last act of desperate person.

 

In this case it was also a "gotcha" question, if she had answered "yes' you would have called her a liar.  If she refuses to answer you call her a hypocrite. 

 

Hard to win with those kinds of odds.

[Guest shiloh357]

what if" questing are never very good questions, they are normaly the last act of desperate person.

 

In this case it was also a "gotcha" question, if she had answered "yes' you would have called her a liar.  If she refuses to answer you call her a hypocrite. 

 

Hard to win with those kinds of odds.

 

It's a good question because it reveals the true nature of Obamacare.   Like I said, when the chef refuses to eat the food from his own kitchen, that should send up a red flag that something is wrong.

 

It is very problematic when our government makes laws and then places itself above those laws.  The very people who have written Obamacare took care to exempt themselves from it, because it is a trainwreck and is the first step toward a single payer system and socialized medicine. And now we have people like Sebelius know how much Obamacare stinks and wants nothing of it.  

 

She is a hypocrite because she expects us to abide by a law that she herself refuses to follow.  If we were to reject Obamacare we get penalized, but her rejection of Obamacare is justified in doing so.   Hypocrisy is when you condemn in others what you justify in yourself.  But it's not just her. 

[JDavis]

what if" questing are never very good questions, they are normaly the last act of desperate person.

In this case it was also a "gotcha" question, if she had answered "yes' you would have called her a liar. If she refuses to answer you call her a hypocrite.

Hard to win with those kinds of odds.

It's a good question because it reveals the true nature of Obamacare. Like I said, when the chef refuses to eat the food from his own kitchen, that should send up a red flag that something is wrong.

It is very problematic when our government makes laws and then places itself above those laws. The very people who have written Obamacare took care to exempt themselves from it, because it is a trainwreck and is the first step toward a single payer system and socialized medicine. And now we have people like Sebelius know how much Obamacare stinks and wants nothing of it.

She is a hypocrite because she expects us to abide by a law that she herself refuses to follow. If we were to reject Obamacare we get penalized, but her rejection of Obamacare is justified in doing so. Hypocrisy is when you condemn in others what you justify in yourself. But it's not just her.

The problem with your attack is that she is following the law. Also she never said she would not follow the law.

What she did was refuse to answer an inane question.

And for that you attack her.

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

what if" questing are never very good questions, they are normaly the last act of desperate person.

In this case it was also a "gotcha" question, if she had answered "yes' you would have called her a liar. If she refuses to answer you call her a hypocrite.

Hard to win with those kinds of odds.

It's a good question because it reveals the true nature of Obamacare. Like I said, when the chef refuses to eat the food from his own kitchen, that should send up a red flag that something is wrong.

It is very problematic when our government makes laws and then places itself above those laws. The very people who have written Obamacare took care to exempt themselves from it, because it is a trainwreck and is the first step toward a single payer system and socialized medicine. And now we have people like Sebelius know how much Obamacare stinks and wants nothing of it.

She is a hypocrite because she expects us to abide by a law that she herself refuses to follow. If we were to reject Obamacare we get penalized, but her rejection of Obamacare is justified in doing so. Hypocrisy is when you condemn in others what you justify in yourself. But it's not just her.

The problem with your attack is that she is following the law. Also she never said she would not follow the law.

What she did was refuse to answer an inane question.

And for that you attack her.

 

If she really believed in obamacare, she would not have hesitated to say, "yes, this is a good law and if I ever get the chance to enroll, I would happily do so."

 

The fact that she could not bring herself to admit such (because she knows how terrible it is), shows how bad this law really is.  She didn't say she wouldn't, but her refusal to answer says just as much as she could have said by simply saying, "no."

 

My comments are aimed more at the hypocrisy of the left and Sebelius is a good example of that hypocrisy.   Obamacare cannot be defended on honest ground.  It requires not answering simple questions, by outright lies (as we have seen over and over) and by simply ignoring the reality of what people are suffering as a result of Obamacare. 

[JDavis]

what if" questing are never very good questions, they are normaly the last act of desperate person.

In this case it was also a "gotcha" question, if she had answered "yes' you would have called her a liar. If she refuses to answer you call her a hypocrite.

Hard to win with those kinds of odds.

It's a good question because it reveals the true nature of Obamacare. Like I said, when the chef refuses to eat the food from his own kitchen, that should send up a red flag that something is wrong.

It is very problematic when our government makes laws and then places itself above those laws. The very people who have written Obamacare took care to exempt themselves from it, because it is a trainwreck and is the first step toward a single payer system and socialized medicine. And now we have people like Sebelius know how much Obamacare stinks and wants nothing of it.

She is a hypocrite because she expects us to abide by a law that she herself refuses to follow. If we were to reject Obamacare we get penalized, but her rejection of Obamacare is justified in doing so. Hypocrisy is when you condemn in others what you justify in yourself. But it's not just her.

The problem with your attack is that she is following the law. Also she never said she would not follow the law.

What she did was refuse to answer an inane question.

And for that you attack her.

If she really believed in obamacare, she would not have hesitated to say, "yes, this is a good law and if I ever get the chance to enroll, I would happily do so."

The fact that she could not bring herself to admit such (because she knows how terrible it is), shows how bad this law really is. She didn't say she wouldn't, but her refusal to answer says just as much as she could have said by simply saying, "no."

My comments are aimed more at the hypocrisy of the left and Sebelius is a good example of that hypocrisy. Obamacare cannot be defended on honest ground. It requires not answering simple questions, by outright lies (as we have seen over and over) and by simply ignoring the reality of what people are suffering as a result of Obamacare.

Nobody should answer childish what if questions. They hold no place is adult discourse. if that is the best question you can ask you need a new job

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

 

 

what if" questing are never very good questions, they are normaly the last act of desperate person.

In this case it was also a "gotcha" question, if she had answered "yes' you would have called her a liar. If she refuses to answer you call her a hypocrite.

Hard to win with those kinds of odds.

It's a good question because it reveals the true nature of Obamacare. Like I said, when the chef refuses to eat the food from his own kitchen, that should send up a red flag that something is wrong.

It is very problematic when our government makes laws and then places itself above those laws. The very people who have written Obamacare took care to exempt themselves from it, because it is a trainwreck and is the first step toward a single payer system and socialized medicine. And now we have people like Sebelius know how much Obamacare stinks and wants nothing of it.

She is a hypocrite because she expects us to abide by a law that she herself refuses to follow. If we were to reject Obamacare we get penalized, but her rejection of Obamacare is justified in doing so. Hypocrisy is when you condemn in others what you justify in yourself. But it's not just her.

The problem with your attack is that she is following the law. Also she never said she would not follow the law.

What she did was refuse to answer an inane question.

And for that you attack her.

If she really believed in obamacare, she would not have hesitated to say, "yes, this is a good law and if I ever get the chance to enroll, I would happily do so."

The fact that she could not bring herself to admit such (because she knows how terrible it is), shows how bad this law really is. She didn't say she wouldn't, but her refusal to answer says just as much as she could have said by simply saying, "no."

My comments are aimed more at the hypocrisy of the left and Sebelius is a good example of that hypocrisy. Obamacare cannot be defended on honest ground. It requires not answering simple questions, by outright lies (as we have seen over and over) and by simply ignoring the reality of what people are suffering as a result of Obamacare.

Nobody should answer childish what if questions. They hold no place is adult discourse. if that is the best question you can ask you need a new job

 

It's not a childish question, no matter how you spin it.  It is no more childish than if I asked a nonbeliever  what would happen if they died tonight without Jesus or if I asked an atheist, "If you were convinced that God was real, would you follow Him?"   Those are what if questions and they are not childish at all.  There is nothing childish about "what if" as long as the question isn't far fetched.  And there is nothing far fetched or childish about asking the head of HHS if she would be willing to live under the very same healthcare law she helped to implement.

 

The fact remains undisputed that she would not commit to the very product she was in charge of building and producing.   Obmacare was her responsibility and while she touts it as good, she is unwilling to commit herself  to it.  The internal inconsistency in it is obvious.

 

She doesn't want to be in Obamacare and who would?   She knows more about it and knows it's a trainwreck.  I don't blame her for not being willing to sign on.  I will not sign on either.  

 

The fact that she doesn't want to sign on to Obamacare for herself isn't really the problem.  That is a just a symptom of a bigger problem and it is that is the incompetency and deceitfulness of this administration.   They have lied to us at every turn.  They have demonstrated what happens to a country when it is run by a bunch of incompetent people (and I am being generous by calling them merely imcompetent).