Abortion Clinics Closing at Record Rate

[TsukinoRei]

 

 

I do believe that abortion is murder, and I don't believe that any means to an end will ever be the high ground.

 

The way I see it, saving lives by legal means is better than allowing murder to continue.

 

 

 

You are absolutely right about that. I agree wholeheartedly.

 

 

Do you equate legality with morality?

[MorningGlory]

 

 

 

When one believes that abortion is murder, than any legal method used to save those lives is the high ground.

 

 

 

Amen to that. 

[Guest man]

 

 

 

I do believe that abortion is murder, and I don't believe that any means to an end will ever be the high ground.

 

The way I see it, saving lives by legal means is better than allowing murder to continue.

 

 

 

You are absolutely right about that. I agree wholeheartedly.

 

 

Do you equate legality with morality?

 

 

 

Do you believe there is something immoral about the way the abortion clinics are being closed? 

[nebula]

Ditto man's question.

[nikki1]

 

 

 

I do believe that abortion is murder, and I don't believe that any means to an end will ever be the high ground.

 

The way I see it, saving lives by legal means is better than allowing murder to continue.

 

 

 

You are absolutely right about that. I agree wholeheartedly.

 

 

Do you equate legality with morality?

 

 

And your point is..............?

 

You tell me.  When is murder a  moral, legal  act?

 

I think  the decline of "illegally" murdering the unborn in the name of "choice" is due  to a great awakening by Americans all over the country from all walks of life, Christian and otherwise,  who are saying  no more murdering of the unborn., and the prospective  victim  (mother)   enough is enough.  The great lie of murdering the unborn and calling it "choice" has been exposed for what it is.  Pro "choice" women will have to find another way to murder their babies.

 

excerpt from The Huffington Post, from which the OP article was taken

 

The murder trial of Kermit Gosnell, the abortion provider in Pennsylvania who performed illegal, late-term abortions and allegedly "snipped" the spines of fetuses born alive, has fueled the drive to regulate abortion clinics even further. A group of House Republicans wrote letters to the health departments and attorneys general of all 50 states in May, citing the Gosnell trial and asking what exactly states are doing to "protect the civil rights of newborns and their mothers."

[JDavis]

I think this tactic, tied to offering alternatives is absolutely the way to go. 

 

I think forcing abortion clinics to have admitting agreements is a good thing, if it closes a few down along the way...all the better.

 

I do not agree with picketing outside these places, but there is nothing wrong with this at all.

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

Would another reason (at all) be that "the morning after" pill was also released for over the counter sale into places like local grocery stores and walmarts? Being made available without a prescription, July 31st 2013?

 

I was reading this article on it

 

http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_23770130/morning-after-pill-goes-sale-thursday-pharmacies-and

[nikki1]

Would another reason (at all) be that "the morning after" pill was also released for over the counter sale into places like local grocery stores and walmarts? Being made available without a prescription, July 31st 2013?

 

I was reading this article on it

 

http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_23770130/morning-after-pill-goes-sale-thursday-pharmacies-and

 

I don't think the MAP has anything to do with the present statistics, because the pill came after the statistic were already gathered.  According to the Huffington Post

 

"More than 50 abortion clinics across the country have closed or stopped offering the procedure since a heavy wave of legislative attacks on providers began in 2010, according to The Huffington Post's nationwide survey of state health departments, abortion clinics and local abortion-focused advocacy groups."

 

But, the MAP might make a difference in the future.  Who knows how reliable that pill is    And, I am sure it comes with a host of serious adverse reactions that will cause people to leave it on the shelf at the store when the word gets out.

[Guest]

 

excerpt from The Huffington Post, from which the OP article was taken

 

The murder trial of Kermit Gosnell, the abortion provider in Pennsylvania who performed illegal, late-term abortions and allegedly "snipped" the spines of fetuses born alive, has fueled the drive to regulate abortion clinics even further. A group of House Republicans wrote letters to the health departments and attorneys general of all 50 states in May, citing the Gosnell trial and asking what exactly states are doing to "protect the civil rights of newborns and their mothers."

 

 

Not disagreeing with you nikki, but I wanted to add this:

 

This kind of thing in bold is the kind of medical stuff the Nazis were condemned for after WWII during the war crimes trials. This stuff was called "crimes against humanity" back then. Murder is murder. There are other so called doctors at the clinics accused of doing similar things, or leaving babies that survive to die. This must be stopped, and if having the transfer agreements and more regulation is one way to do that - so be it. Abortion is a medical procedure and should be regulated as such.

[TsukinoRei]

 

 

 

 

I do believe that abortion is murder, and I don't believe that any means to an end will ever be the high ground.

 

The way I see it, saving lives by legal means is better than allowing murder to continue.

 

 

 

You are absolutely right about that. I agree wholeheartedly.

 

 

Do you equate legality with morality?

 

 

And your point is..............?

 

You tell me.  When is murder a  moral, legal  act?

 

I think  the decline of "illegally" murdering the unborn in the name of "choice" is due  to a great awakening by Americans all over the country from all walks of life, Christian and otherwise,  who are saying  no more murdering of the unborn., and the prospective  victim  (mother)   enough is enough.  The great lie of murdering the unborn and calling it "choice" has been exposed for what it is.  Pro "choice" women will have to find another way to murder their babies.

 

excerpt from The Huffington Post, from which the OP article was taken

 

The murder trial of Kermit Gosnell, the abortion provider in Pennsylvania who performed illegal, late-term abortions and allegedly "snipped" the spines of fetuses born alive, has fueled the drive to regulate abortion clinics even further. A group of House Republicans wrote letters to the health departments and attorneys general of all 50 states in May, citing the Gosnell trial and asking what exactly states are doing to "protect the civil rights of newborns and their mothers."

 

 

A great awakening would be super nice, but if that were the case it wouldn't be necessary to be underhanded to achieve a closure of clinics.  If there were such a great awakening then the abortion clinics would close all on their own from simple lack of customers.  Passing a law stating that all clinics must have transfer agreements with hospitals, and then passing a law preventing hospitals from having transfer agreements with clinics is simply a tasteless bit of legal trickery that has no lasting effect on the will of the people and risks galvanizing the pro-choice movement even further.  A few weeks ago a video was posted of a gentleman minister who waits outside a local clinic and offers alternatives to women - begs them in the most loving way possible to choose life, tells them that they are loved and that their unborn baby is loved and will be cared for if they choose life.  If they accept his help he takes them to his church and remains a part of their life.  That is an effective ministry, achieving the right results the right way.