Lucifer : Angel of Music

[Hall7]

 

Because there is a very deceiving spirit in the world spreading fast, a wolf in the sheep's clothing. The spirit of the anti Christ disguised under new age practice and universalism. And most of these poor souls have no idea what they are getting themselves into until it's too late. My sister is one of these victims and it frustrates me. No matter what I tell her she turns things around, thinking good is bad and bad is good... I do constantly pray for her though. So the goal is to try to make people aware of what controls this world in order for them to stay away from it.

 

 

 

OK I just dragged this quote from the other thread you started and then requested be closed...I didn't read or participate in that thread...it caught my eye as I was signing out and I had already

thought there must be a reason you are asking these questions and then I read the above which I have posted

 

I just want to state that I do not think a Christian necessarily goes out trying to find out all they can about the devil out of idle curiosity...but of course some do.

 

Some Christians believe satan can no longer touch them in anyway.  He already has.

 

Some Christians think satan is behind every negative event in their life and causes the driver in the car in front of them to drive too slowly when they are late for work

 

Some Christians don't want to know anything about the devil and gloss over all the considerable portions of scripture that actually deal with that individual

 

Then we have the Christians who with sincere hearts come before God and honestly and earnestly just do not understand why their lives are 'touched' by something

they cannot define but have the uneasy feeling they need to deal with  nonetheless.

 

 

 

Hall...I doubt people can be educated as to what controls this world as you put it....scripture actually defines the problem in a more precise manner and in a matter of fact manner

that can leave no doubt that to ignore the god of this world who is the power of the spirit of the air, leaves one vulnerable to deception (like your sister) and scoffing like those

who do not believe and variations on the same theme.

 

I think it is up to God to decide how much of the demonic He allows a person to experience, to know or to battle against.  In any event, I wouldn't go looking for any of it.  If God allows

as part of His plan for a person's life, then, you can determine there is a purpose to it.

 

I guess it's because I'm sick of evil taking advantage of this world, everything is so transparent around me. So easy to tell when someone's mind is being affected in a certain way. But we are stuck on this rock for now and all I can do is to try to warn people somehow. I really wish I could kick the devil's ass once and for all but that's up to God of course. I'm just frustrated to see what's going on all the time... We can't be mad at people because it isn't there faults, it's the spirit within them that I am mad at.

[BlessedByTheBest]

Isa 5:20  Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! 

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

 

 

 

Eze 28:13  Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold:

the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 

 

 

And that one starts out here

 

Ezekiel 28:2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

 

Says the prince of Tyrus is a man there and unto the king of the lamentation is upon in the verse just prior yours

 

Ezekiel 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

 

 

hi sister Flame,

 

the prince of Tyrus allows us to perceive aspects of Lucifer's rebellion.  he is a picture of Satan.

the prince became king upon the fall of Adam and Eve, in which we essentially crowned him and gave him our allegiance.

both Christ and Satan had rulership rights to this planet, until of course his defeat at the Cross.

 

Joh 12:31  Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. 

 

 

unless of course you interpret verse 13 to mean that a man was in Eden, instead of that sly serpent.

and then there is also verse 14 to support this.

 

Eze 28:14  Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 

Eze 28:15  Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 

Eze 28:16  By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 

Eze 28:17  Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 

Eze 28:18  Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 

Eze 28:19  All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more. 

 

obviously a picture of the fallen cherub that covered the throne of God, and most likely ruled the adoration and worship of the Most High.

 

love to you.

 

 

Awh, Hi bro Blessedbythebest

 

Yes, there are a couple interpretations out there, seems rather twofold between prince and King there. Others don't make the difference. Both the serpent and the man were in the garden. But Satan is said to be a murderer from the beginning not perfect. Whereas Adam (who was in the garden) was a man (even as the prince is said to be) who was made in the image of God (Who is perfect) till iniquity was found in him too. And there, the only one I see covering anything is Adam even as Job said, " If I covered" my transgressions as Adam, by "hiding mine iniquity" in my bosom. Whereas the serpent made naked (to themselves). But there price and King there and we know the spirit that works in man can also act like a covering (or veil)  in lying against the truth. Even as it does speak of "the veil of covering" cast over the nations. They just seem so interlocked in the sense he blinds the minds. But even in respects to the violence, God said to Noah, concerning the end of all flesh, for the earth is filled with violence "through them" and he would destroy them. Not so clear, but I can catch a little of both, after all both prince and King are there, and "the prince" is yet a man but its sometimes hard to divide the man from the spirit that works in Him so much I find.

 

love to you bro too!

Edited September 6, 2013 by AFlameOfFire

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

Sorry Blessedbythebest, I often get so confused with my bad eyesight as to who I am quoting, that was for you!

 

I will give that a quick edit bro

[ayin jade]

One clue is that many evil music bands sell their souls to the devil for fame. 

The devil has no power to buy souls. If you think he does, please cite scripture to that.

[shorryshaggy]

God made humans emotional. Music plays on emotion and memories that are tied to certain things.

[kwikphilly]

Blessings to Everyone!

      As far as denominations go  the apostolic creed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church declares that one can pray to angels just as one can pray to the Blessed Mother Mary,it goes way back based mainly on Tradition with very little Scriptoral truth....in the Catholic Missile there is much about angels including that they are divided into groups that are called Choirs(nothing to do with music)and then you have the reference to the seraphim who sing out"'Holy,Holy,Holy",Lucifer being jeweled and having pipes as parts of his body  and before you know it somewhere ,someone came up with Lucifer being the Angel of Music(even the Catholic Theologist St Thomas Aquinis did much in depth study of angels(non-Biblical)and before him there was the 4th century traditionalists and Magesterium....this is all nothing short of Mysticism...Even the Highly patronized archangel Gabriel is not mentioned in the Bible.....Many Angels are named in Catholicism

    I do believe this all crept into Jewish & Christian traditions from Jewish Mythology ,Sumerian & Mesopatamia mythology rooted in the Alphabet of Ben Sira in the Babylonian Talmud(I may have placed one before the other but  I have not thought about these studies in many years-lol).The Ben Sira writings teach of Lilith,Adams first wife and very detailed profiles of maybe 25 or 30 very powerful angels,what their assignments are and their names...Lucifer given the title of Head Minister of Music.....MYTH

    What we do know from the Word of God is that amongst the different gods of this world that are at work in the world today we are warned that we do war against spirits of the air,which I have always thought  of as demons that attack through different air waves,signals or frequencies(radio,television,satellite,speakers,speakers,sound waves etc,,,)....Most likely we all have at one time or another experienced the hypnotic or mesmerizing effect music can have  on us so I am without any doubt that the enemy uses this weapon much more than we may realize.....and so we continually pray for discernment,keep God first in our lives,study His Word and walk hand in hand with our Lord & Savior, Christ Jesus!

                                                                                                                       With love,Kwik