The deteriorating perception of nudity

[Guest man]

We will all stand naked before God...and none of us will care.

 

 

You don't know that.

[JDavis]

Man,

So what you are saying is that God made them and left them in an evil way?

You are saying that being naked was wrong prior to eating the fruit, they just didnt know any better?

I just do not view God that way.

[Guest man]

Man,

So what you are saying is that God made them and left them in an evil way?

You are saying that being naked was wrong prior to eating the fruit, they just didnt know any better?

I just do not view God that way.

 

 

Why did God clothe them before He cast them out?

[JDavis]

Man,

So what you are saying is that God made them and left them in an evil way?

You are saying that being naked was wrong prior to eating the fruit, they just didnt know any better?

I just do not view God that way.

Why did God clothe them before He cast them out?

Because they were ashamed.

Why did God allow them in his company while in an evil form?

Why did God create them in an evil form?

[Guest man]

 

 

Man,

So what you are saying is that God made them and left them in an evil way?

You are saying that being naked was wrong prior to eating the fruit, they just didnt know any better?

I just do not view God that way.

Why did God clothe them before He cast them out?

Because they were ashamed.

 

 

Why were they ashamed?

 

 

 

 

Why did God allow them in his company while in an evil form?

 

 

 

He didn't. He drove them from the garden.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why did God create them in an evil form?

 

 

 

He didn't. It wasn't their form that was evil.

[JDavis]

Man,

Can't quote from my phone so here is my reply...

They were ashamed because they were naked.

They had fellowship with God, in the company of God prior to eating the fruit. they were naked during this time.

By your view nudity was always evil, they just didn't know any better....but God knew it was evil....why did God allow them to be naked in his company prior to eating the fruit?

[TsukinoRei]

I doing think the presupposition that everything we are ashamed of is evil can possibly be correct.  If shame is evidence of evil then that would mean that when people are ashamed of God that God is evil - and that can't possibly be supported by scripture.  

 

Luke 9:26 Whoever is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.

 

 

 

Mark 8:38

For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him will the Son of Man also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.”

 

 

 

 

Romans 1:16

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

 

 

 

 

 

So you see, shame can't be evidence that the object of that shame is evil.

[Guest man]

Man,

Can't quote from my phone so here is my reply...

They were ashamed because they were naked.

They had fellowship with God, in the company of God prior to eating the fruit. they were naked during this time.

By your view nudity was always evil, they just didn't know any better....but God knew it was evil....why did God allow them to be naked in his company prior to eating the fruit?

 

 

 

Nudity by itself isn't what made nudity shameful to Adam and Eve. It was the knowledge they absorbed from eating that fruit. "They have become like Us". They gained the knowledge of good and evil.

 

Nudity by itself isn't evil. It's all the things that accompany nudity. When Adam and Eve realized they were naked, the shame they felt wasn't over their nakedness, it was over the sins and temptations that surrounds nudity.

[JDavis]

Man,

Can't quote from my phone so here is my reply...

They were ashamed because they were naked.

They had fellowship with God, in the company of God prior to eating the fruit. they were naked during this time.

By your view nudity was always evil, they just didn't know any better....but God knew it was evil....why did God allow them to be naked in his company prior to eating the fruit?

Nudity by itself isn't what made nudity shameful to Adam and Eve. It was the knowledge they absorbed from eating that fruit. "They have become like Us". They gained the knowledge of good and evil.

Nudity by itself isn't evil. It's all the things that accompany nudity. When Adam and Eve realized they were naked, the shame they felt wasn't over their nakedness, it was over the sins and temptations that surrounds nudity.

Well then it seems we agree with each other.

[nebula]

 

If that is true, why is it mentioned in Revelation people will be given robes to wear?

Revaluation is a book filled with figurative speech. it tells us a sword will come out of Jesus' mouth...do you think it will be a real sword?

 

 

 

 

Revelation 7:9

New International Version (NIV)

The Great Multitude in White Robes

9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.

The Lamb is not literal.  We understand that the Lamb is Jesus Christ who was sacrificed for our sins, the palm branches represent worship, the white robes represent being clothed in righteousness.  I think the number of people who believe that Jesus Christ reincarnates as a literal sheep are very few indeed!  Why would we think the white robes are literal?

 

 

Do the two of you believe that Jesus is sitting on the Throne in the buff?