For those that believe in the Big Bang, what was there before?

[MarkNigro]

 

 

On day 1 in Genesis 1:1 God made the heaven and the earth.

 

 

 

ok, lets try this for a change...

 

Gen 2:4

 

These are the generations

of the heavens and the earth when they were created,

in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.  (ESV)

 

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, (KJV)

 

Does the word day in this verse mean 24 hours? 

 

Gen 1:5...

.God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

 

The first use of the word day in this verse, does it mean 24 hours?

 

 

 

 

You didn't answer the question. 

 

Does the use of the word day that I have put in bold above imply a 24 hour day? 

 

A simple yes or no would be fine.

 

You are evading my original reply with the number of passages I gave. You must stay in context.

[JDavis]

 

 

 

On day 1 in Genesis 1:1 God made the heaven and the earth.

 

 

 

ok, lets try this for a change...

 

Gen 2:4

 

These are the generations

of the heavens and the earth when they were created,

in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.  (ESV)

 

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, (KJV)

 

Does the word day in this verse mean 24 hours? 

 

Gen 1:5...

.God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

 

The first use of the word day in this verse, does it mean 24 hours?

 

 

 

 

You didn't answer the question. 

 

Does the use of the word day that I have put in bold above imply a 24 hour day? 

 

A simple yes or no would be fine.

 

You are evading my original reply with the number of passages I gave. You must stay in context.

 

 

you have not answered the question.  According to you, the word day means a 24 hour period, only.  According to you the word day has no other meaning outside of a  24 hour period.

 

So,

 

A)  are you now taking that back and admitting that the word day has meanings other then a 24 hour period?  

 

or

 

B) are you sticking with your initial statements that the word day has no other meaning other than a 24 hour period.

 

I have made it easy for you, pick either A or B. 

 

Thanks

[MarkNigro]

 

 

 

 

On day 1 in Genesis 1:1 God made the heaven and the earth.

 

 

 

ok, lets try this for a change...

 

Gen 2:4

 

These are the generations

of the heavens and the earth when they were created,

in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.  (ESV)

 

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, (KJV)

 

Does the word day in this verse mean 24 hours? 

 

Gen 1:5...

.God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

 

The first use of the word day in this verse, does it mean 24 hours?

 

 

 

 

You didn't answer the question. 

 

Does the use of the word day that I have put in bold above imply a 24 hour day? 

 

A simple yes or no would be fine.

 

You are evading my original reply with the number of passages I gave. You must stay in context.

 

 

you have not answered the question.  According to you, the word day means a 24 hour period, only.  According to you the word day has no other meaning outside of a  24 hour period.

 

So,

 

A)  are you now taking that back and admitting that the word day has meanings other then a 24 hour period?  

 

or

 

B) are you sticking with your initial statements that the word day has no other meaning other than a 24 hour period.

 

I have made it easy for you, pick either A or B. 

 

Thanks

 

You asked for the passages. I gave you the passages. You ignored the passages.

 

That is how all evolutionists work.

 

I have given you many questions and you have answered none.

 

That is evasion, a technique that proves that the facts and truth is against you.

 

Exodus 20:11

For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

 

Spoken by God once and written twice. That makes it exactly 6 24-hour days.

 

Genesis 1 numbers the days and says morning and evening.

 

That makes it exactly 6 24-hour days.

[JDavis]

 

 

 

 

 

On day 1 in Genesis 1:1 God made the heaven and the earth.

 

 

 

ok, lets try this for a change...

 

Gen 2:4

 

These are the generations

of the heavens and the earth when they were created,

in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.  (ESV)

 

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, (KJV)

 

Does the word day in this verse mean 24 hours? 

 

Gen 1:5...

.God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

 

The first use of the word day in this verse, does it mean 24 hours?

 

 

 

 

You didn't answer the question. 

 

Does the use of the word day that I have put in bold above imply a 24 hour day? 

 

A simple yes or no would be fine.

 

You are evading my original reply with the number of passages I gave. You must stay in context.

 

 

you have not answered the question.  According to you, the word day means a 24 hour period, only.  According to you the word day has no other meaning outside of a  24 hour period.

 

So,

 

A)  are you now taking that back and admitting that the word day has meanings other then a 24 hour period?  

 

or

 

B) are you sticking with your initial statements that the word day has no other meaning other than a 24 hour period.

 

I have made it easy for you, pick either A or B. 

 

Thanks

 

You asked for the passages. I gave you the passages. You ignored the passages.

 

That is how all evolutionists work.

 

I have given you many questions and you have answered none.

 

That is evasion, a technique that proves that the facts and truth is against you.

 

Exodus 20:11

For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

 

Spoken by God once and written twice. That makes it exactly 6 24-hour days.

 

Genesis 1 numbers the days and says morning and evening.

 

That makes it exactly 6 24-hour days.

 

 

I am not an evolutionist, I have told you this many times.  Why do you still bear false witness against me?

 

next, you are still not answering the question.

 

I will not stop asking till you answer...does the word "day" have other meanings besides a 24 hour period?

 

Yes or no.  Those are the only two choices.  please pick one and then we can move on.

[~candice~]

Mark, don't you think it is going a little too far to call JDavis an evolutionist because he disagrees with you? He has already stated he is not an evolutionist.

 

To suggest the truth is against him is really an attack - please tone it down!

[MarkNigro]

 

 

 

 

 

 

On day 1 in Genesis 1:1 God made the heaven and the earth.

 

 

 

ok, lets try this for a change...

 

Gen 2:4

 

These are the generations

of the heavens and the earth when they were created,

in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.  (ESV)

 

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, (KJV)

 

Does the word day in this verse mean 24 hours? 

 

Gen 1:5...

.God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

 

The first use of the word day in this verse, does it mean 24 hours?

 

 

 

 

You didn't answer the question. 

 

Does the use of the word day that I have put in bold above imply a 24 hour day? 

 

A simple yes or no would be fine.

 

You are evading my original reply with the number of passages I gave. You must stay in context.

 

 

you have not answered the question.  According to you, the word day means a 24 hour period, only.  According to you the word day has no other meaning outside of a  24 hour period.

 

So,

 

A)  are you now taking that back and admitting that the word day has meanings other then a 24 hour period?  

 

or

 

B) are you sticking with your initial statements that the word day has no other meaning other than a 24 hour period.

 

I have made it easy for you, pick either A or B. 

 

Thanks

 

You asked for the passages. I gave you the passages. You ignored the passages.

 

That is how all evolutionists work.

 

I have given you many questions and you have answered none.

 

That is evasion, a technique that proves that the facts and truth is against you.

 

Exodus 20:11

For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

 

Spoken by God once and written twice. That makes it exactly 6 24-hour days.

 

Genesis 1 numbers the days and says morning and evening.

 

That makes it exactly 6 24-hour days.

 

 

I am not an evolutionist, I have told you this many times.  Why do you still bear false witness against me?

 

next, you are still not answering the question.

 

I will not stop asking till you answer...does the word "day" have other meanings besides a 24 hour period?

 

Yes or no.  Those are the only two choices.  please pick one and then we can move on.

 

I 'll make you a deal. I will answer your question if you address my original post with all the passages.

 

Deal?

 

You first.

[JDavis]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On day 1 in Genesis 1:1 God made the heaven and the earth.

 

 

 

ok, lets try this for a change...

 

Gen 2:4

 

These are the generations

of the heavens and the earth when they were created,

in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.  (ESV)

 

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, (KJV)

 

Does the word day in this verse mean 24 hours? 

 

Gen 1:5...

.God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

 

The first use of the word day in this verse, does it mean 24 hours?

 

 

 

 

You didn't answer the question. 

 

Does the use of the word day that I have put in bold above imply a 24 hour day? 

 

A simple yes or no would be fine.

 

You are evading my original reply with the number of passages I gave. You must stay in context.

 

 

you have not answered the question.  According to you, the word day means a 24 hour period, only.  According to you the word day has no other meaning outside of a  24 hour period.

 

So,

 

A)  are you now taking that back and admitting that the word day has meanings other then a 24 hour period?  

 

or

 

B) are you sticking with your initial statements that the word day has no other meaning other than a 24 hour period.

 

I have made it easy for you, pick either A or B. 

 

Thanks

 

You asked for the passages. I gave you the passages. You ignored the passages.

 

That is how all evolutionists work.

 

I have given you many questions and you have answered none.

 

That is evasion, a technique that proves that the facts and truth is against you.

 

Exodus 20:11

For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

 

Spoken by God once and written twice. That makes it exactly 6 24-hour days.

 

Genesis 1 numbers the days and says morning and evening.

 

That makes it exactly 6 24-hour days.

 

 

I am not an evolutionist, I have told you this many times.  Why do you still bear false witness against me?

 

next, you are still not answering the question.

 

I will not stop asking till you answer...does the word "day" have other meanings besides a 24 hour period?

 

Yes or no.  Those are the only two choices.  please pick one and then we can move on.

 

I 'll make you a deal. I will answer your question if you address my original post with all the passages.

 

Deal?

 

You first.

 

 

in post number 5 of this thread I addressed your OP.  I am not sure what more you want from me.  "before" the big bang there was God, how is the Big Banger.  (before being a relative term since time is a result of creation).

 

Now, please answer my question, does the word "day" have meanings outside of just the 24 hour period you that have claimed it means?

 

I will settle for a simple yes or no.

[MarkNigro]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On day 1 in Genesis 1:1 God made the heaven and the earth.

 

 

 

ok, lets try this for a change...

 

Gen 2:4

 

These are the generations

of the heavens and the earth when they were created,

in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.  (ESV)

 

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, (KJV)

 

Does the word day in this verse mean 24 hours? 

 

Gen 1:5...

.God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

 

The first use of the word day in this verse, does it mean 24 hours?

 

 

 

 

You didn't answer the question. 

 

Does the use of the word day that I have put in bold above imply a 24 hour day? 

 

A simple yes or no would be fine.

 

You are evading my original reply with the number of passages I gave. You must stay in context.

 

 

you have not answered the question.  According to you, the word day means a 24 hour period, only.  According to you the word day has no other meaning outside of a  24 hour period.

 

So,

 

A)  are you now taking that back and admitting that the word day has meanings other then a 24 hour period?  

 

or

 

B) are you sticking with your initial statements that the word day has no other meaning other than a 24 hour period.

 

I have made it easy for you, pick either A or B. 

 

Thanks

 

You asked for the passages. I gave you the passages. You ignored the passages.

 

That is how all evolutionists work.

 

I have given you many questions and you have answered none.

 

That is evasion, a technique that proves that the facts and truth is against you.

 

Exodus 20:11

For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

 

Spoken by God once and written twice. That makes it exactly 6 24-hour days.

 

Genesis 1 numbers the days and says morning and evening.

 

That makes it exactly 6 24-hour days.

 

 

I am not an evolutionist, I have told you this many times.  Why do you still bear false witness against me?

 

next, you are still not answering the question.

 

I will not stop asking till you answer...does the word "day" have other meanings besides a 24 hour period?

 

Yes or no.  Those are the only two choices.  please pick one and then we can move on.

 

I 'll make you a deal. I will answer your question if you address my original post with all the passages.

 

Deal?

 

You first.

 

 

in post number 5 of this thread I addressed your OP.  I am not sure what more you want from me.  "before" the big bang there was God, how is the Big Banger.  (before being a relative term since time is a result of creation).

 

Now, please answer my question, does the word "day" have meanings outside of just the 24 hour period you that have claimed it means?

 

I will settle for a simple yes or no.

 

Address the actual words I wrote.

 

 

God spoke the following words once and wrote it twice with His own finger into stone. Six days is six days. At the time this was spoken and written (circa 1500 BC) that is 24 hour days. If it weren’t six 24-hour days God would have lied or deceived the Israelites.

 

Exodus 20:11

For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

 

Look at Genesis 1. From the above verse, the whole chapter took only 6 days. It is always days throughout the whole chapter. The days are numbered. Notice also that the day is divided into evening and morning. Notice the order of creation does not match the order given by the Big Bang theory of billions of years. The Sun is created on day 4, the Earth day 1. The trees are created on day 3, but the fish are created on day 5. Also note that in verse 31, at the end of day 6, God said it was very good. But the long ages theory would have had death, disease, and suffering of a multitude of creatures for over billion years at this point. Does not sound very good at all. Adam and Eve would have looked at God and said “are you kidding me?” No wonder they did not believe God in Genesis 3.

 

Genesis 1:1-31

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

 

Jesus Christ said:

 

Mark 10:6

But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

 

The Big Bang theory has people created after about 12 billion years. The Holy Bible has it as only in day 6.

 

Jesus also said:

 

Luke 11:50-51

50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;

51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.

 

That would hardly match 12 billion years later.

 

Anyone trying to claim long ages will never be able to defend the worldwide flood in the days of Noah.

 

Genesis 7:11-24

11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;

14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.

15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.

16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the Lord shut him in.

17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.

19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:

22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.

 

 

 

 

John 8:47

He that is of God heareth God's words ...

[JDavis]

Mark,

You said if I addressed the original post of the thread you would answer my question.

I will be happy to address the passages you have posted when we can iron out the possible meanings for the word "day".

Until we do this there is no sense in moving forward.

[MarkNigro]

Mark,

You said if I addressed the original post of the thread you would answer my question.

I will be happy to address the passages you have posted when we can iron out the possible meanings for the word "day".

Until we do this there is no sense in moving forward.

That is evasive. The question is the age of things Genesis 1 and Exodus 20:11.

 

That last was spoken by God Himself and written by Him in stone.

 

Anything over 6-days about 6,000 years old is another god.