speaking in tounges

[Sevenseas]

Speaking in tongues was a gift given, a sign, given (Isaiah 28:11) during the laying of the foundation of the Church (Hebrews 2:4). It was a sign to the Jews (Acts 2:6). Speaking in tongues has served God's purpose, God has given the sign (1Cor 14:21), and God has laid the foundation (Eph 2:20). Speaking in tongues by the Gentiles showed the Jews that God granted even the Gentiles repentance unto life (Acts 11:18). Tongue speakers spoke mysteries (1 Cor 14:2); consequently, the mystery of the gospel has been given (Eph 6:19). Speaking in tongues is the language of angels (1 Cor 13:1), angels minister to humans (Hebrews 1:14). Humans are to understand speaking in tongues in earthly languages (Acts 2:6, 11). Speaking in tongues would be “stilled” (1 Cor 13:8).

The believers in the Bible times who spoke in tongues, they spoke in tongues supernaturally. The believers who supposedly speak in tongues nowadays, they speak gibberish and believe God turns their gibberish into supernatural language, and that is a false doctrine.

Ridiculous. The Holy Spirit is still active. I think we would know if He had left, because the world would no longer be here.

[firestormx]

Speaking in tongues is the language of angels (1 Cor 13:1

The believers in the Bible times who spoke in tongues, they spoke in tongues supernaturally. The believers who supposedly speak in tongues nowadays, they speak gibberish and believe God turns their gibberish into supernatural language, and that is a false doctrine.

Since speaking in tongues is the language of angels, and people today only speak gibberish, and your such an expert, why don't you explain the language of angels. You know what it sounds like, how it's written. What does the language of angels sound like?

[firestormx]

1 Corinthians 13:1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.

I believe you misunderstand this verse. By saying the tongues of men and angels, he is contrasting them one from the other. Clearly marking them as different one from the other.

2nd, yes it was understood by the people around, but that is tongues in operation in church setting, not tongues for personal prayer, which edifies or builds up the speaker in the inner man.

3rd. If it's not for today, then your discounting a lot. For instance, the Holy Spirit spoke chinese through me once to minister, even though I don't know 1 bit of the langauge. The Holy Spirit spoke eskimo through my mother to witness to some people years ago. I've partaken and witnessed this in operation, all of it to bring glory to God and people closer to Christ. So, if it's not for today, then how did this happen?

[Sevenseas]

1 Corinthians 13:1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.

I believe you misunderstand this verse. By saying the tongues of men and angels, he is contrasting them one from the other. Clearly marking them as different one from the other.

2nd, yes it was understood by the people around, but that is tongues in operation in church setting, not tongues for personal prayer, which edifies or builds up the speaker in the inner man.

3rd. If it's not for today, then your discounting a lot. For instance, the Holy Spirit spoke chinese through me once to minister, even though I don't know 1 bit of the langauge. The Holy Spirit spoke eskimo through my mother to witness to some people years ago. I've partaken and witnessed this in operation, all of it to bring glory to God and people closer to Christ. So, if it's not for today, then how did this happen?

yeah firestormx...truth revealed also believes that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the same......that is, the SAME....so, .......that might be more problematical then what is going on in this thread

[firestormx]

1 Corinthians 13:1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.

I believe you misunderstand this verse. By saying the tongues of men and angels, he is contrasting them one from the other. Clearly marking them as different one from the other.

2nd, yes it was understood by the people around, but that is tongues in operation in church setting, not tongues for personal prayer, which edifies or builds up the speaker in the inner man.

3rd. If it's not for today, then your discounting a lot. For instance, the Holy Spirit spoke chinese through me once to minister, even though I don't know 1 bit of the langauge. The Holy Spirit spoke eskimo through my mother to witness to some people years ago. I've partaken and witnessed this in operation, all of it to bring glory to God and people closer to Christ. So, if it's not for today, then how did this happen?

yeah firestormx...truth revealed also believes that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the same......that is, the SAME....so, .......that might be more problematical then what is going on in this thread

Wow, I don't even know what to say, or where to begin with that one, lol.

[Sevenseas]

Speaking in tongues was a gift given, a sign, given (Isaiah 28:11) during the laying of the foundation of the Church (Hebrews 2:4). It was a sign to the Jews (Acts 2:6). Speaking in tongues has served God's purpose, God has given the sign (1Cor 14:21), and God has laid the foundation (Eph 2:20). Speaking in tongues by the Gentiles showed the Jews that God granted even the Gentiles repentance unto life (Acts 11:18). Tongue speakers spoke mysteries (1 Cor 14:2); consequently, the mystery of the gospel has been given (Eph 6:19). Speaking in tongues is the language of angels (1 Cor 13:1), angels minister to humans (Hebrews 1:14). Humans are to understand speaking in tongues in earthly languages (Acts 2:6, 11). Speaking in tongues would be “stilled” (1 Cor 13:8).

The believers in the Bible times who spoke in tongues, they spoke in tongues supernaturally. The believers who supposedly speak in tongues nowadays, they speak gibberish and believe God turns their gibberish into supernatural language, and that is a false doctrine.

Ridiculous. The Holy Spirit is still active. I think we would know if He had left, because the world would no longer be here.

You should watch yourself and be more careful in what you say others say.

What you said is ridiculous! You imply that I said the Holy Spirit left, is an active, and no longer here! I did not ever say what you falsely accuse me of saying.

I suggest you avail yourself of the TOS....they would help clear up any misunderstanding you might have about how you address others

anywhoooooo...the clock is ticking.it's a long thread...have you read it? It most likely address all of your concerns

[Sevenseas]

1 Corinthians 13:1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.

I believe you misunderstand this verse. By saying the tongues of men and angels, he is contrasting them one from the other. Clearly marking them as different one from the other.

2nd, yes it was understood by the people around, but that is tongues in operation in church setting, not tongues for personal prayer, which edifies or builds up the speaker in the inner man.

3rd. If it's not for today, then your discounting a lot. For instance, the Holy Spirit spoke chinese through me once to minister, even though I don't know 1 bit of the langauge. The Holy Spirit spoke eskimo through my mother to witness to some people years ago. I've partaken and witnessed this in operation, all of it to bring glory to God and people closer to Christ. So, if it's not for today, then how did this happen?

yeah firestormx...truth revealed also believes that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the same......that is, the SAME....so, .......that might be more problematical then what is going on in this thread

Wow, I don't even know what to say, or where to begin with that one, lol.

I think we might be in receipt of a week end teacher/prophet......but don't quote me on that. Anyway, like I always say, asking questions and discussing is fine, but being threatened and warned

by someone who is representing themself as a saved person causes me to give pause to what they say.

[firestormx]

Wow, I don't even know what to say, or where to begin with that one, lol.

I think we might be in receipt of a week end teacher/prophet......but don't quote me on that. Anyway, like I always say, asking questions and discussing is fine, but being threatened and warned

by someone who is representing themself as a saved person causes me to give pause to what they say.

Here I was thinking the only person who knew it all was God, how silly of me.

[firestormx]

1 Corinthians 13:1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.

I believe you misunderstand this verse. By saying the tongues of men and angels, he is contrasting them one from the other. Clearly marking them as different one from the other.

2nd, yes it was understood by the people around, but that is tongues in operation in church setting, not tongues for personal prayer, which edifies or builds up the speaker in the inner man.

3rd. If it's not for today, then your discounting a lot. For instance, the Holy Spirit spoke chinese through me once to minister, even though I don't know 1 bit of the langauge. The Holy Spirit spoke eskimo through my mother to witness to some people years ago. I've partaken and witnessed this in operation, all of it to bring glory to God and people closer to Christ. So, if it's not for today, then how did this happen?

The nowadays tongue speaking is also commonly called a "prayer language.” Those practicing the false tongue speaking of nowadays, they believe they are speaking a prayer language, and that in this type of praying it is somehow deeper and more revealing about themselves to God, and more personal than praying with their native language with words they understand. However, that is not scriptural, and that even goes against the Word of God.

Calling the false tongue speaking a "prayer language" is from an error in understanding of the scriptures explaining speaking in tongues when no one is around who understands. It is important to realize that after the believers in the bible had the gift of speaking in tongues for the sign to the Jews...they kept the gift even when the Jews of other languages were not around. Therefore, the tongue speakers spoke only to God when they spoke in tongues they did not understand and when no Jews from other languages were there, because, God, of course, can understand all the earthly languages.

I pray in an unknown tongue and pray witth the understanding also. Recoginze this verse, paul says it. If you pray in unknown tongue, Then God will give you the understanding. For years, if I'm speaking in tongues or someone else is around me, God always gives me the understanding if I ask, and sometimes even if I don't. I agree there is a lot of people who got it wrong. I'll give you that. People who operate in emotion and not being lead of the Spirit. But that don't mean the real thing isn't here.

[firestormx]

Wow, I don't even know what to say, or where to begin with that one, lol.

I think we might be in receipt of a week end teacher/prophet......but don't quote me on that. Anyway, like I always say, asking questions and discussing is fine, but being threatened and warned

by someone who is representing themself as a saved person causes me to give pause to what they say.

Here I was thinking the only person who knew it all was God, how silly of me.

Are you sure you do not think you do?

I know I don't, and if you would go through my posts, on this subject or any other, you would see that. I recently started a thread titled " Hate mother and father" which is asking a question about verses I've struggled with from time to time. But Let me ask you something. Is your doctrine 100% perfect in every way? Do you open the word to confirm your opinion, or to recieve God's truth? Just curious