Satan

[JohnD]

Ok... i know satan is reality and that he is guilty of lots of pain and trash in this world.

But in my opinion it's to easy to blame satan right?

Ok..in my case it is. I mean... i have been searching for God for a long time now... and i kinda think He must exist.

Still, i haven't found Him.

People say Satan is keeping me away from Him. But how? And isn;t it so that i;m to stupid to not see what others see?

Am i asking to many questions and should i be more open?

I quit reading the bible and pray for myself... cause it made me depressed and i think God already tried enough.

Kinda frustrating being me lol. Trying to find God at the same time pushing him away.

God must hate me by now... I hope He is as patient as someone posted above. Sometimes wished He wasn;t that patient though and pulled me by my hair.

I'm scared...

Interesting. I was going to cite the scientific evidence for the Creator, and there is much evidence there... it is covered up by those who are running from God... and here you are looking for God and cannot find him. As I said, interesting. I do not know you or your particular case (how or where you are looking) but I have found that God is most aloof when we place on him conditions. I'll believe in you if... (fill in the blank).

I am an old John Becker fan (the TV show starring Ted Danson) where the main character (Dr. John Becker) is a bumbling professor type cynic who is angry about everything. And my favorite scene was when he said to his Christian assistant Margaret. "God is out to get me, Margaret!" She sneers "You mean the God you don't believe in?"

"That's why he's out to get me..." Dr. Becker replied with a straight face.

Don't be scared. Be persistent. If I gather from the photo you have on your profile you are a mother... remember the persistence you had in child bearing. You either get through labor or die trying. You persisted.

As I said, I do not know the details here and can only offer generalities but I can show you truth from scripture to show you that God is not impatient with you, nor does he hate you.

John 3:16-18 (NIV)

16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

Romans 5:10 (NIV)

10 For if, when we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!

John 5:23 (NIV)

23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

Tell me, do you believe Jesus is just A WAY to God? Or do you believe he is THE WAY to God?

I can show you using just the Old Testament / Tanakh Yeshua HaMoshiakh... if that is an issue with you.

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Praying~!

[Thysia]

Just so you know... i have read all replies, but have to think about it.

My head is exploding cause of all the new information i've been given. Last couple of weeks were tough.

Hope you guys understand.

[childeye]

name='Thysia' timestamp='1295109494' post='1639950']

I have wondered something.... why are so many christians so easy in blaming things on satan?

Because Christ did. He came to destroy the works of the devil. Because Satan is who introduced the false image of god to the innocent and malleable.

I mean... for many years i'm trying to find why i need God and why it is i can't reach Him.

Many christians say it's satan who's stopping me from finding Him. But i think, we people have a free will and so i blame myself for not finding Him.

Satan is a liar and if we are deceived by his lie, we are being subjugated by his deception. I also looked for God at one point when He was right in front of me the whole time. The claim that we have a freewill is also somewhat a deception as I also learned. No one can find God in the sense that He is The Eternal Spirit of Love. It is more about defining Him. And He has revealed Himself more personally in the Christ. You need only look there to find Him and also find yourself, for we are made in His image.

Therefore you either believe this is the True image of God or you don't. That is, that the Character and quality of Love seen in this man who submitted to torture and death and yet forgave his tormentors is the same as Gods'. Please understand that the Truth of God is about destroying the slandering of His Character which Satan first did in the Garden of Eden. Our mistake was that we trusted Satan's defamation of character not seeing through the subtlty of it's presentation.

My question: Why always blame satan?

Satan is where vanity began and contrary to the assumption that men have a freewill, he is king over all the children of pride.

[childeye]

I have wondered something.... why are so many christians so easy in blaming things on satan?

I mean... for many years i'm trying to find why i need God and why it is i can't reach Him.

Many christians say it's satan who's stopping me from finding Him. But i think, we people have a free will and so i blame myself for not finding Him.

My question: Why always blame satan?

Hi Thysia, people will often use satan as a "scapegoat" when it is unbelief and sin that separates them from GOD and takes them straight to hell.

A scapegoat? Unbelief and sin is the doing of Satan in man. The whole purpose of the Christ and the Gospel is to set people free from Satan. Surely you're not accusing the prophets, Jesus and his apostles of using Satan as a scapegoat. There is no scriptural proof to back up your position whatsoever. In fact you are contrary to what scripture says. Why would anyone use Satan as a scapegoat?

Are you saying people knowingly slander God? How is that possible?

John 8:44

King James Version (KJV)

44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.Acts 26:18

King James Version (KJV)

18To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. The whole armor of God is so as to fight Satan.

Ephesians 2:2-5

King James Version (KJV)

2Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

3Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

Ephesians 6:12

King James Version (KJV)

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Luke 11:20

King James Version (KJV)

20But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

Luke 8:12

King James Version (KJV)

12Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.

Isaiah 14:17

King James Version (KJV)

17That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

Isaiah 42:7

King James Version (KJV)

7To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

[~candice~]

I have wondered something.... why are so many christians so easy in blaming things on satan?

I mean... for many years i'm trying to find why i need God and why it is i can't reach Him.

Many christians say it's satan who's stopping me from finding Him. But i think, we people have a free will and so i blame myself for not finding Him.

My question: Why always blame satan?

Hi Thysia, people will often use satan as a "scapegoat" when it is unbelief and sin that separates them from GOD and takes them straight to hell.

James 1

¹³ When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;¹⁴ but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. ¹⁵ Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.

Sometimes there is some kind of demonic activity, but a lot of our struggles are born from our own sin.

[childeye]

I have wondered something.... why are so many christians so easy in blaming things on satan?

I mean... for many years i'm trying to find why i need God and why it is i can't reach Him.

Many christians say it's satan who's stopping me from finding Him. But i think, we people have a free will and so i blame myself for not finding Him.

My question: Why always blame satan?

Hi Thysia, people will often use satan as a "scapegoat" when it is unbelief and sin that separates them from GOD and takes them straight to hell.

James 1

¹³ When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;¹⁴ but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. ¹⁵ Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.

Sometimes there is some kind of demonic activity, but a lot of our struggles are born from our own sin.

I think this scripture is quite appropriate. It mentions dragged away and evil desires and enticement, certainly not freewill. Also is made plain is that these things that are temptation are not of choice, and precede the act of sin.

[JohnnyIMdoc]

I have wondered something.... why are so many christians so easy in blaming things on satan?

I mean... for many years i'm trying to find why i need God and why it is i can't reach Him.

Many christians say it's satan who's stopping me from finding Him. But i think, we people have a free will and so i blame myself for not finding Him.

My question: Why always blame satan?

Hi Thysia, people will often use satan as a "scapegoat" when it is unbelief and sin that separates them from GOD and takes them straight to hell.

James 1

¹³ When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;¹⁴ but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. ¹⁵ Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.

Sometimes there is some kind of demonic activity, but a lot of our struggles are born from our own sin.

Yep

[JohnD]

Sometimes it is so frustrating like talking to... you know... LOL

[childeye]

Sometimes it is so frustrating like talking to... you know... LOL

I know exactly what you mean, but as there are two Cheribum on the mercy seat, there are two perspectives of Truth that appear to be opposite but actually agree in the middle.