Is It Ok To Tell A Little White Lie Even If..

[Guest Called]

Josh 2:1-7

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[Guest kitkat]

it is just like eating sacrificial meat. To some it was a sin, to others it was not.

Kurt, you could apply that to any sin, that doesn't make it right. How about we agree to disagree! I love you and KitKat and I don't want to get into an argument! :hug:

Well Debbie, I don't want to get into an argument either. That wasn't what my intentions were. You misread me if you believe that. Sorry if you misread me.

No, I know you didn't want to get in an argument! I was just trying to lighten the mood!

Are you sure? You wouldn't lie to me now, would ya? I thought the mood was light. :lightbulb:

Love ya,

Kat

:hug:

[Kabowd]

Re: Rahab

Not only did He not condemn this woman, He spared her, she prospered (and she is one of only two women listed among the heros of faith in Hebrews 11).

[Guest kitkat]

With all due respect a lie is a lie.

[Guest koppen]

A lie is a lie, is a lie, is a lie.

Not true, GMan. We have to understand what God meant when He wrote in Scripture about lying. When that was written - were the Christians dealing with receiving a gift they didn't like? Or the husbands being asked if their wives looked fat in a certain dress? No.

I would like to see your opinion in light of the excellent stuff that Tess has offered.

I really don't believe that God intended His people to get all hung up and guilt ridden and spend needless time pondering over how we should deal with gifts we don't like. There's a saying - "don't sweat the little stuff". JMO.

it seems to be the 'little stuff' that has created the greatest amount of diverse opinions....

ABSOLUTELY Senerhu!!!!!!!!

[Marilyn777]

Hey I have an idea for a new book its called -- "The Purpose Driven Lie" it has 5 purpose driven steps for lying!

1} The White Lie

2} The Grey Lie

3} The Off-White Lie

4} The Beige Lie

5} The Red Lie {thats the one you get a Holy Shot in the head from God} Beware of the red lie!!

[Guest kitkat]

Hey I have an idea for a new book its called -- "The Purpose Driven Lie" it has 5 purpose driven steps for lying!

1} The White Lie

2} The Grey Lie

3} The Off-White Lie

4} The Beige Lie

5} The Red Lie {thats the one you get a Holy Shot in the head from God} Beware of the red lie!!

There ya go, Marilyn!!

That oughta help us get it all figured out! Clever girl you!!

:a:

Kat

:hug:

[alecia]

Hum.. it amazes me how long this has gone on for..

'Well what if!'

'Its still a lie!'

'But what if..!'

'its still a lie!'

If you have a chance to save somones life, and you do nothing, Id consider you just as accountable for that persons life as the one who murdered them.

I doubt God would send you to hell because you lied and saved a persons life.. or 500 peoples lives or 50000 peoples lives.

You can ask for forgiveness but you cant give somone a life back after they are dead...

You can throw it back and forth all you want, and say what you would do in whatever situation that you are sure you will never be in, but if you ever ARE in that situation, you will have this to think back on, and you will have a choice.

Do you lie or not.. if you are the last defense for somones life and you let them die, you may as well have killed them yourself.

Edited August 20, 2004 by alecia

[alecia]

Another thing came to me. I am certain that everyone on this earth that is capable of lying has lied. That makes us all liars, and im sure many people will lie again at some point.

Jesus died so that our lies and other sins could be forgiven.. but it seems that in hypothetical situations where deception could be helpful and prevent disaster, some are most adamant about NOT lying instead of adding one more lie to the collection of lies that they already have which can all be forgiven...

Telling one less lie doesnt make you any better when you already have lied.

Sorry, but I find it strange.

I decided to expand on this further...

Lets create a fictional character to illustrate it.

Lets say.. Bob.

Bob lied and said he liked his wifes cookies when he actually didnt like them.

Bob lied to his friend and said thier necktie looked great when he really thought it was ugly.

Bob called in sick when he really just wanted a day off.

A young black man being chased by racists runs through Bobs construction yard where he works, where the racists lose him.. Bob hides the young man somwhere. The racists come to ask Bob where the man went, but Bob decieds to go back on the good thing he just did and tell them the truth, and the young man is beaten to death. Or maybe.. Bob says nothing and they figure he knows something so they beat Bob up and find the young man anyway.

In either case, after all the petty, meaningless lies Bob told, he decides to stand up and 'be a good honest man' and somone loses thier life because of it. But he is still a liar... and a man is also now dead.

Edited August 20, 2004 by alecia

[irishcowboy]

After reading all these posts, I have a question. I do believe that telling a little white lie is sin and that you shouldn't lie at all, but what if you are at a family gathering at Christmas and you exchange gifts and one or many of the gifts you receive from family members is something you don't like, how do you go about handling that situation, when the whole family is gathered around watching gifts being opened? With the family members being gathered around, when you open each gift, you are put on the spot as to how you react to each gift you receive, because you have so many observers. So how do you keep from embarassing someone in that situation that gave you a gift you don't like, without saying something that could be a little white lie, in order to show good manners?

Kat

You accept is with graditude.....

it is not the gift that matters.....

it is the meaning or the thought behind the gift that is what matters....

that the person presenting it loves you enough to present you with a gift that they thought you might like.....

accept it, and thank them..... you dont have to lie about it,

you can even say:

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it is something that you never expected.....

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that is not saying you like it or dont.... and if you were not expecting it, then that also would not be a lie.... be loving towards them, and accept the gift.....

accepting it dont mean you ahve to use it.....

if you need to respond to each gift, lump the gifts together under a blanket statement:

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they are such wonderful gifts, and the most precious gift is that we are all able to be here to share this time together, to share our love for each other and that to me is the most wonderful gift given this day......

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we have to keep in mind, what is pleasing to God..... not us..... if we are more concerned about what man says or thinks, and not what God desires, then we are not pleasing God,

mike