Dome of the Rock: anti-Christian

[amor]

And, of course, if "Allah," the solar deity of the ancient Arabian Peninsula, is so "compassionate" as the Dome would have us believe, how come his adherents are engaged in all sorts of kidnapping, homicide bombings & beheadings worldwide without as much as the bat of an eyelash? "Allah's" compatriots have a 13-century record of plunder, rape and genocide - still proceeding today worldwide - that discredits the entire religion.

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Allah is the Arabic word for God and is a term used by Arab/ Arabic speaking Muslims, jews and Christians and, as is shown here, was used by the latter before the emergence of Islam. It is as legitimate a term as the word "God" which is used by English speaking Christians, jews and Muslims. The word God was of course in the past associated with a variety of Pagan deities. Please stop implying that Arab Christians worship a false God!

Actually "Allah" is a reference to a pagan god. If the Arab Christians want to worship the God of the Bible properly, they can begin by not referring to Him by the name of a false god.

The God of the Bible has revealed His Name, YHWH.

We would not expect Greeks to refer to God as Zeus, or the Romans to refer to Him as Jupiter. We would expect them to worship Him as he has prescribed.

It is written: Exodus 23:13

"Now concerning everything which I have said to you, be on your guard; and do not mention the name of other gods, nor let them be heard from your mouth.

Not only does God not want us to worship false gods, he does not want to be worshipped in the manner that the pagans worship their gods. He does not want their traditions, and He certainly does not want to be referred to by the name of a pagan god such as "Allah." (Deut. 12:29-31)

You mention Jupiter, this is interesting. Jupiter is early latin for Sky/God father As is shown here. Modern Romans speak Italian the modern descendant of Latin. THe modern Italian equivalent of Jupiter is Dio padre. Repeat the two terms to yourself and you will see that they are similar. Dio padre is often used by Italians where we would say God the father. Do you think that Italian Chritians as well as Arab Christians should change their language to suit your prejudices.

[nebula]

Jupiter is king of the Roman gods - he is nothing like our God.

Would I call my God by a name that gives a false connection between Him and someone else?

No way.

It's like this. The name Judas is the Greek version of the name Judah. Nothing wrong with the name - just a different expression of the same name. But because of the connection given between the name "Judas" and an evil person, I'd never name my child "Judas," even though "Judah" is a good Biblical name.

[stevehut]

It's like this. The name Judas is the Greek version of the name Judah. Nothing wrong with the name - just a different expression of the same name.

Yup.

The name is also equivalent to "Jude" (next to last book of the Bible). And another apostle named Judas was also called Thaddeus.

And the name Jesus is from the same root as "Joshua".

I think people make far too much out of words. Sometimes they're just words.

[nebula]

Sometimes words are just words - yes.

But do you associate the word "Allah" with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the I AM, the Word made flesh who dwelt among us?

[stevehut]

But do you associate the word "Allah" with the God of Abraham,

Dunno. I don't know enough about the Arabic language.

Could it be that the language was established apart from the Islam religion? Maybe the name "allah" did mean "the one true God" before it was attached to Islam? Like I said, I dunno.

After all, Arabs do consider themselves the descendants of Abraham.

[nebula]

OK - now would be a good time to ask . . .

Just who's side are you on, anyway, Steve?

[stevehut]

Just who's side are you on, anyway, Steve?

I don't know, what are my choices?

[eve]

From: http://trumpetsounds.com/liberatingtemplemount.html

"O Lord, in keeping with all your righteous acts, turn away your anger and your wrath from Jerusalem, your city, your holy hill. Our sins and the iniquities of our fathers have made Jerusalem and your people an object of scorn to all those around us. Now, our God, hear the prayers and petitions of your servant. For your sake, O Lord, look with favor on your desolate sanctuary. Give ear, O God, and hear; open your eyes and see the desolation of the city that bears your Name. We do not make requests of you because we are righteous, but because of your great mercy. O Lord, listen! O Lord, forgive! O Lord, hear and act! For your sake, O my God, do not delay, because your city and your people bear your Name." (Daniel 9:16-19 NIV)

God's "Holy Mountain" is in Jerusalem. King David purchased the land we now call the Temple Mount as a place to make an altar for the Lord. Later, David's descendants Solomon, and then Zerubabbel, built the House of the Lord on that spot. Both of those Temples were violently destroyed because of the rebellion of the Jewish people against the Lord, as presaged by the prophets.

"I will forsake my house, abandon my inheritance; I will give the one I love into the hands of her enemies. My inheritance has become to me like a lion in the forest. She roars at me; therefore I hate her." (Jeremiah 12:7-8 NIV)

After the latter destruction, Jerusalem was "plowed like a field" in AD 135 by the Romans to humiliate the Jews and eradicate any semblance of a city. Several hundred years later, the Dome of the Rock (AD 691) and the Al Aqsa mosque (AD 705) were built on the Temple Mount by the Muslims. Since that time, these structures have been an illicit indignity on the site which the Lord designated as "the place I have chosen for my Name to dwell."

It is no coincidence that rival structures are standing on this place. The spiritual being who has evil aspirations to God's throne is the architect behind this. He wants to keep control of that location so that the Lord's temple cannot be rebuilt. Therefore, he instigated followers of one of his fabricated gods to designate it as one of their "holy places."

In a defiant affront to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Dome of the Rock is replete with blasphemous inscriptions from the Koran. For example, "In the name of Allah the Merciful and Compassionate. There is no God but Allah alone. Praise be to Allah who hath not taken to himself offspring. To Him there has never been any person in the sovereignty. Mohammed is the messenger of Allah, may God pray upon Him and accept his intercession. Praise be God who has not taken unto himself a son and who has no partner in sovereignty nor has He any protector on account of weakness."

These profane structures are a continuous challenge to the sovereignty of the true God. However, despite all the intentions of the Muslims, those structures will not stay there. We know this because that place will once again play a central role in Israel. At least one more Temple of the Lord, and perhaps two, will be built again on that site. The Bible gives abundant witness to what will eventually happen there: the Son of David, Jesus, King of Israel, will rule the world from Mount Zion, the throne of the Lord. The Lord will suddenly come to His House and take up the residence that is His.

"The LORD will roar from Zion and thunder from Jerusalem; the earth and the sky will tremble. But the LORD will be a refuge for his people, a stronghold for the people of Israel. 'Then you will know that I, the LORD your God, dwell in Zion, my holy hill. Jerusalem will be holy; never again will foreigners invade her.'" (Joel 3:16-17 NIV)

Therefore, before this happens, those other vexing buildings have to come down. And indeed they will. Are there any Bible prophecies about this? Yes.

One is found in the book of Obadiah. It speaks about an end-times liberation of the Temple Mount. The overall topic of the book of Obadiah is the conflict between Israel and Edom (Esau). The last seven verses of the book are about the end-times. In the prophecy we will examine, we see something called "Mount Esau" up on Mount Zion. This is the symbolic terminology the prophet uses to describe the Islamic structures on the Temple Mount.

If we compare several translations of verse 21, the meaning readily becomes apparent:

"For liberators shall march up on Mount Zion to wreak judgment on Mount Esau, and dominion shall be the Lord's." (JPS)

"And saviors will ascend Mount Zion to judge the Mountain of Esau, and the kingdom will be Hashem's" (Stone)

"Powerful warriors will go up on Mount Zion....." (NCV)

"The deliverers will ascend Mount Zion to judge the mountain of Esau, and the kingdom will be the LORD'S." (NASB)

Now the picture is clear. Esau represents the enemies of the true God. "Mount Esau" is an entity on the Temple Mount that will be judged. A group of deliverers will go up to the Temple Mount and eradicate the offending edifices. Those liberators will condemn the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa mosque, and God's Holy Hill will be cleared for the rebuilding of the House of the Lord.

[nebula]

Just who's side are you on, anyway, Steve?

I don't know, what are my choices?

Are you for Jesus Christ - God made man, crucified, rose on the third day, ascended to Heaven, and one day every knee will bow before Him?

Or are you for - the other?

[nebula]

Eve - Thank-you!

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