Kerry - is He a Man of Faith?

[senerhu]

"She speaks to you through me," the future Republican star said. "And I have to tell you right now

Edited July 18, 2004 by senerhu

[Guest SweetSong]

They all need to keep their religious beliefs OUT OF POLITICS and let the public decide BY VOTING.

Cannot be done. A person is his/her deepest held beliefs, the fact cannot be avoided. If one is a Marxist/Communist at heart those convictions will come out in how one runs the country, if one is a Christian, the same holds true.

"You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt has become tasteless, how can it be made salty again?  It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men."  Matthew 5:13 (NASB)

Like any other Christian President Bush has to serve the Lord as the "salt of the earth."

[whatsitmean]

Refused To Repudiate and Repent of Sin of Being An Adept In Satanic Skull & Bones -- -- Cannot be saved if you refuse to repent of a sin in your life

Bush honored Satanic Hard Rocker, Ozzy Osbourne twice within one month!

"Ozzy Osbourne 'invited to White House'", BBC News, 4 April, 2002.

"OZZY'S WHITE HOUSE -- Bush's Headbanger's Ball", The Drudge Report, Sunday May 5, 2002.

Evidently Ozzy doesn't feel the same about Bush.

Ozzy Osbourne Places Bush Alongside Hitler

Bush went back on his promise to Senior Pastor Dixon and shut down the Indianapolis Baptist Church with Swat Teams!

"FEDS Seize Indianapolis Church For Back Taxes", NewsMax.com wires, February 13, 2001.

"Nation: Feds seize Indianapolis Church in unprecedented move", The Associated Press, INDIANAPOLIS, February 13, 2001, 10:00AM.

As educated as George W. Bush is, surely he knows the oft-repeated quote: "The power to tax is the power to destroy".

Bush established the terrible Faith-Based Initiative

The wording of Bush's initiative is not "Christian-based", but "Faith-based".

Bush opened the forbidden door to Stem-Cell Research

"Bush to Allow Limited Stem-Cell Funding: President Would Support 60 Established Lines, Seeking Middle Ground", The Wall Street Journal, Friday, August 10, 2001, p. A3, 10.

"WASHINGTON -- President Bush, seeking a compromise on one of the thorniest issues of his presidency, announced that he supports federal funding for research on embryonic stem cells -- but only for five dozen cell lines already established. 'Embryo stem-cell research offers both great promise and great peril', Mr. Bush said in a nationally televised, 10-minute speech last night delivered from his ranch in Crawford, Texas. He added, 'I have made this decision with great care, and I pray it's the right one'. "

"By limiting the funding to existing cell lines, Mr. Bush -- who as a candidate said he opposed funding such research -- can argue to his antiabortion supporters that no additional embryos would be destroyed under his plan. But the move also allows him to give something to those ... who want the federal government to take some step to advance what could be promising research on treating diseases."

"Bush Leaves in Place Clinton 'Domestic Partners' Policy At State, Gay Paper Reports', Concerned Women of America, April 18, 2002,

http://www.cwfa.org/articles/593/CFI/cfreport/index.htm

Gays and Lesbians are truly "a-glow" over Bush's policies!

"The Bush Administration's Republican Homosexual Agenda: The First 100 Days", by Robert Knight, Peter LaBarbara, and Kenneth Ervin II, Culture and Family, May 31, 2001, http://www.cultureandfamily.org/library/20..._bush-100.shtml

"During the presidential campaign, George W. Bush courted Christians and other pro-family Americans by promising to restore family values and morality to the White House. The assurances worked; Bush received a large majority of the votes of self-identified evangelical Christians and a healthy percentage of the votes of pro-family Catholics and pro-family Protestants in mainline denominations. Many pro-family Americans looked to the new President to reverse the pro-homosexual agenda of his predecessor, Bill Clinton

[senerhu]

95% of the posts made here about Kerry and Edwards are true, laced with facts...and I'm not just talking about any "just kidding" posts in the post you quoted by me. Trying to pull off a cutting remark against the President, inserting the "just kidding" thing doesn't excuse the fact that you probably really meant it...

You have your opinion and I have mine. A gift from God given to each of us.

Now enjoy your Sunday and God bless!

That's not exactly what you said to my wife yesterday. As a matter of fact, you rode her pretty hard yesterday with personal attacks for her opinion. So I can run along and play in the street now, huh?...LOL Perhaps an apology to my wife from you would be in order here. God bless you too River....

[senerhu]

oh and btw...

They all need to keep their religious beliefs OUT OF POLITICS and let the public decide BY VOTING.

that is exactly what you DON'T want to do... It was good enough for our forefathers, who depended on the God's Will, Guidance and Blessings in establishing this country, its good enough for me to...I'll vote for the man that has Christian ethics, like Bush, not some Christian wannabe, like kerrry, who gives only lip service to Christian values...

[BobTriez]

oh and btw...

They all need to keep their religious beliefs OUT OF POLITICS and let the public decide BY VOTING.

that is exactly what you DON'T want to do... It was good enough for our forefathers, who depended on the God's Will, Guidance and Blessings in establishing this country, its good enough for me to...I'll vote for the man that has Christian ethics, like Bush, not some Christian wannabe, like kerrry, who gives only lip service to Christian values...

It sure was

We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights

Liberty is NOT natural to man....bondage is. Liberty is from GOD! They are unalienable rights - rights NO ONE can put a lien against....why ? Because they came from GOD! Without God, there'd be no liberty.....you SURE we want God out of our constitution ?!?!? We take God out, guess where our Liberty goes!

And we are granted freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.....anyone who wants God out of politics is biting the hand that feeds them....so go ahead, take God out of government...do so at your own risk! There will be no freedom once He's out; that I assure you - it was the intent of our forefathers to KEEP God so we could enjoy HIS unalienable rights.....rights endowed by our Creator!

How foolish a man who wants God out of government....:down:

[Guest LadyC]

amen bob!!

[Guest LadyC]

i'd apologize if i was ever guilty of calling you those things river... but i don't think you're unpatriotic or a heretic, or even foolish...

i just think you're misguided!!

(i know you think i'm misguided too!)

sorry for buttin in, i just figured i'd try to lighten the mood around here. it's getting kind of gloomy!

[Guest LCPGUY]

The only honest option is "Don't know". And that option should be ammended to add that only our Lord knows the heart of John Kerry -- we can only speculate.

Sorry Bro River, but you're off the mark here in my opinion. We are commanded to judge him by his fruits, just as called pointed out. Kerry can't be a born again Christian because he supports and promotes legalized murder. The slaughter of innocent blood. You know, isn't it called abortion???

Bro John

[BobTriez]

BTW who apologies to me for calling me a heretic, un-Patriotic, and now foolish?  No one will.  Because of pride and arrogance.

River,

Are you feeling that I'm calling YOU foolish ? I'm sorry....but anyone who wants God out of politics is in fact a fool....I'm NOT calling YOU a fool without merit, you would be making yourself a fool if you want God out of politics; I'm just calling it as I see it....so I'm not calling YOU personally a fool ? I'm saying anyone takes God away from government is a fool....that being said; if the shoe fits ?

Lemme ask you this - why in the WORLD would you want God taken out of politics ? He's the very One our rights come from......take Him away, you take our rights away. Do you HONESTLY believe that we can run this country on our own ?

What did Jesus say during His trial ?

John 19"9-11

9 and he went back inside the palace. "Where do you come from?" he asked Jesus, but Jesus gave him no answer.

10 "Do you refuse to speak to me?" Pilate said. "Don't you realize I have power either to free you or to crucify you?"

11 Jesus answered, "You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin."

Where does authority come from ? God ?!?!? right ? So WHY do you say to keep God out of politics ? He's where our rights come from....how asinine to remove the Giver of blessings from us....to me that is just plain FOOLISH!

Serving Him,

Bob