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Yes scientist that insist on carbon dating . But have no standard for calibrating . 500,000,000 years If there is no writen history by which they could calibrate it they simply add what ever is needed to make the word of God without effect. In the end of the matter chasing one's tail . We do not know Christ after the rudiments of this world (dust) after the philosophies of men . Looking to thing made the temporal can in a hope lead a person to the source of Christin s faith as it is written. But God must do that work . Preach the gospel in season or out Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. it would seem bottom line is

I would think if a person ignores the interptation instruction in the first verse of the most metphor used that we would obey Revelation 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Signified called the hidden manna in Rev 2:17 . The parable in Revelation 20:3 marks the renting of the veil Satan fell there was no Jewish King of kings Lord sitting in the holy of holies .Satan could no longer deceive all the nations of the world (mankind) that God was a Jewish King as a man . The time of reformation has come marking the last days (thousand years) as a metaphor of the unknown concealed . God called those who do seek after signs to wonder after a evil generation . It is clearly a parable. Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations (mankind) no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. We know that binding has to do with mankind as a whole used as a metaphor in parables to represent all the nation or families of the earth . Satan is still bring his lying signs to wonder after they are accompanied with a strong delusion so that they can keep the lie . We must be careful how we hear walking by faith the unseen eternal things of God ]

The Bible does not say that.It does say in dying we will end up dead "one appointment" no double jeopardy .

John 11:35 Jesus wept.

Thanks Was the first death not sufficient enough to perform the letter of the law "thou shall not or in dying you will come to a end of the the breath of life". . that God breathed into dust The appointment is clearly die once. . no retrial.. . double jeopardy. . The whole jury was hung by the letter and found guilty It seems you are disregarding the "letter death". . . What is its purpose other than death? Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter The death of death and its daily sufferings of hell both will be tossed into the judgment fire of God. The death of death and sufferings. It. Thous shall not or you will die and not go to purgatory or limbo and surfer with no end in sight . The imaginary hell came about because of the corrupted unbelieving Jew that passed that oral tradition down to Catholicism as a law of men .I heard it through the father grape vine . They as false apostles, false prophets have a need to go beyond thier last breath called a Queen of heaven .it came about because of a women lib movement wanting a female deity with full consent of thier hen pecked husbands They are taught the strange women as queen of heaven revives them daily and she even visits the Protestants and to strengthens them in thier agony according to her (Catholic) teaching. . . the strange woman .Not the bride of Christ . They receive the end of thier salvation from the first hearing of Faith . No second trial for them they yoked with Christ do the mixing (Hebrew 4:1-2)

We are made complete or perfect all die not receiving the new body that goes with the born again new spirit by his unfailing promise we are perfect.Man look on the outward appearance . Gods words that judges the intents of our heart in the end the gospel therefore softens our hearts

Yes either Gods word avording to his understanding of faith are true faith or not as no eternal faith that could please our Father . According to the judgment of death "the letter of the law" all are appointed once to die not twice . Twice would be like Moses striking the Rock twice typifying him from not entering heaven as a parable to help us understand the letter of the law "death" will not be part of the new order."thou shalt not will not rise up" And condemn though corruption/ dying ever again the old things will not be remembered or ever come to mind.no worshipping dead saints.necromancy we seek our living God for the dead The "death of death" associated with the living pangs of hell . God thoughts are not ours neither are his invisible spirit ways ours we must compare the literal temporal historical to the unseen eternal according to the prescription needed to rightly divide parables. no mixing no gospel (Hebrew 4:1-2) It would seem like some sayin I told you so you should of liteming scaring them into believing the lie of breath of oxygen buried 6 feet under still can surfer other than the normal decomposition of the temporal sinful flesh Then 20/20 prescription needed to rightly divide the parables which without the Holy Spirit spoke not . don't leave earth without that valuable interpreting tool write it on your forehead and new born agin heart 2 Corinthians 4:18 King James Version While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. Hebrews 4 King James Version Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith (the temporal with the eternal) in them that heard it. Yoked with Christ we get a rest in our daily suffering.Give us this day moment by moment the strengthening power of your will. Look to the subject matter of the parable no man can serve two good teaching masters as one Lord Mankind resisting sola scriptura) the living abiding word of God. . . . the eternal spiritual understanding

As Ambassadors for Christ sent form a foreign land not of this world yoked with Christ we are his witnesses from heaven no need to literalize the signified word "thousand" it is used to represent a unknown throughout. Not sure why the diving of time period called dispensation God works by a labor his love in any dispensation The Amil was popular during the 15th citrusy reformation both sides used it neither thought it was literal. What happened and when by who ? Was it before airplanes were made seeing some say they will fall out of the sky killing all unbelievers and the born again pilots are led on the temporally 1000 year journey to a unknown and then will return . a person of corrupted flesh and blood all die not receiving the incorruptible. Jesus warns of those who seek after sign to wonder after .none were given .We have the book of prophecy nothing can be added to it or taken way we walk as two walking together When two or three gather under the hearing of faith as it is written he is in the mist working in them

I would offer the subject matter of the parable "no man can serve two good teaching master" has been is the the subject matter of the last two chapters. Man wisdom "mammon" verses God's wisdom his living word signified as "Moses and the prophets" repeated three time in that context. all thing written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) It is not after we take our last breath we desire some literal water and not the gospel .this even y though the tongue has returned to the dust. . it cry out /.It must be treated as a parable no necromancy communing with the dead relatives and heros . We pray as communion the one manner our Holy Father in heaven . . . . hallow be his name . .not 500,000 and beyond thousand dead relatives . Like that of Rachel who hid the idol image from her father by which she communed with the dead workers with familiar spirit gods . Claiming they are closer to God and fill in the void between the dead and living . Hell sufferings unto death (not dead) is the daily sufferings we experience living in the bodies of death. Our daily bread can lighten the sufferings of born again mankind. All look to the new in coruptible body no one has received. There is no need to image there will be sufferings after we take our last breath of oxygen .All die once and their corruptible bodies return to the dust . I would think it would give us any relief in our sufferings by thinking too will continue the same kind of sufferings separated from God jesu know what it is like when two suffered working as one suffer unto death Not dead God does not take dead sacrifices

Thanks for the reply. . I would agree the beginning of the great tribulation the "last days" . . . a terrible tribulation to the outward Jew who was trusting his flesh could profit for something A great Joy like never before or ever again for the gentile saints. The veil was rent and there was no Jewish King of kings siting in the holy of holies ,Satan fell (Revelation 20)and could no loner deceive the whole world that God was a Jewish man. He will be revealed again to perform that lie. . . that God is a Jewish man. Then the end of all nations as families come as we receive our new incorruptible bodies Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Again by the renting of the veil to signify the circumcision of our bloody husband it was preached when God rent it (70 foot high) from the top inspired heavenward, to the bottom earthward . . doing its signfired work of preaching the good news

I don't think so. Love, Walter John 3:13 is a verse from the Bible. It says "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."1 This verse is part of a conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus. Jesus was explaining to Nicodemus that he needed to be born again in order to enter the kingdom of God. The phrase “Son of Man” is one of Jesus’ favorite names for Himself. He will refer to Himself using this title several times in the Gospels. This is a phrase which all Jewish people would have recognized (Daniel 7:13). It connects Jesus to Old Testament prophecy.1 The verse means that no one has gone up to heaven except for Jesus who came down from heaven.1 It is important to note that this verse does not mean that no one will ever go to heaven. It simply means that no one has gone there yet except for Jesus.1 Yes the Son of man who was sent as the spirit as sonship from the father as a born again Son of God. All die not receive the new incorruptible body. Jesus our brother in the lord . We call no man on earth father. In that way the Holy Spirit of sonship works in us all , Jesus dying body of death did not come down .God is not a man .

Matthew 24 is in regard to the church as those who went out because they were not of us as false apostles God defines the us with him and those who are against God. The church does not define we must go to the living word. remember without parables hiding the understanding of God Christ the Holy Spirit spoke not, He gives us ears to hear the parables the gospel understanding given to us .

The 144,000 is the number no man could count according to the golden measure. all born again sants God does not number days or people. Mankind is quick to fill in the number. More than one sect makes the claim of the 144000. Yoked with Christ we walk by faith after the unseen things of God . Those who trust in the outward man are not trusting Christ Again a number no man could count.God does not allow counting on dying flesh and blood Genesis 13:16 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered 2 Corinthians 10:12 We don’t dare put ourselves in the same class with those who think they are so important. We don’t compare ourselves to them. They use themselves to measure themselves, and they judge themselves by what they themselves are. This shows that they know nothing.

Perfect by the power of the father. God is not a man no such thing as fleshly deity.

No signs were given. Jesus said its a evil generation that does seek after signs to wonder after rather than prophecy as it is written. Natural unconverted mankind "no faith"of Christ .Christ called them no faith. . calling us little in a hope God's faith as it is writen in the law and prophets the faith of Christ, He basically said things will be going on as from the beginning . . wars earthquakes .then he will leave this earth on the last day like a thief in the night

The Son of man Jesus,. . . is not God . God is not a man ( a creation) He is the unseen faithful Creator .”let there be” and “there was substance seen with the eye” Jesus is reckoned as our brother in the lord. When he approached by one of the sign seeker named Nicodemus. Nicodemus had no faith (no understanding) as power from God not seen. He lovingly was given powerful words from the Father through his prophet Jesus the Son of man and powerfully declared “marvel not but rather believe” the breath of life. . And he understood shown by his conversion later. God’s powerful living words proved faithful. The Lord of lords working in Jesus the prophet given words from the father lovingly commanded him to “marvel not” but rather believe. Marveling and wondering is not believing, wondering marveling a wile of the devil. Satan the king of lying sign to wonder and marvel after the god of this world Mankind dying . . . dead in their trespass and sin must be born again. . This of course included Jesus the Son of man born of woman. Jesus is the first reborn of many sons of God. . Christians. Jesus the Son of man yoked with God who works from within . . . not according to the dying flesh seen. all die not receiving the promise . What we will be when we receive our new incorruptible bodies is not revealed. Whatsoever can be said about the Son of man can be said of us. . . same Christian family . . .brothers, sister, mothers .No father. Call no man earth Father (blasphemy) one not seen dwells mutually in born again mankind Two comparable witnesses Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother. God is not a man .

God does not have a name as us needed to tell each other a part.he has no form .All of his names are immutable attributes as power of God . The tongue of God the power to create and destroy. Another I AM example not as popular John 18:1-4 When Jesus had spoken these words, he went forth with his disciples over the brook Cedron, where was a garden, into the which he entered, and his disciples. And Judas also, which betrayed him, knew the place: for Jesus ofttimes resorted thither with his disciples. Judas then, having received a band of men and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, cometh thither with lanterns and torches and weapons. Jesus therefore, knowing all things that should come upon him, went forth, and said unto them, Whom seek ye? Looking to the answer for God the "I am" the power of God not seen literally moved them and went backwards . . the spirit of judgement signified by the tribe of Dan. . the breaking of the neck like that of Judas when he hung himself as a witness of his guilty , the field of blood Genesis 49:17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward. John 18:5-9 They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them. As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.Then asked he them again, Whom seek ye? And they said, Jesus of Nazareth.Jesus answered, I have told you that I am he: if therefore ye seek me, let these go their way:That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none. He asked them a second time to show the power of the tongue life and death and released the believers the work of the gospel .

Amen. . children of light reflecting the love as the power of Light . God is light and not that he can create it temporal. God's loves as a light .God is Love .Rejoice in His Spirit .God is Spirit The three thing that make up the essence of God

Sorry, when Jesus the Son of man was worshipped as if he was in the place of God .He gave glory to the father and said why call me good ? Only God not seen is good .God is not a man as us. Jesus dared not to blaspheme the Father Mark 10:16-18 King James Version And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them. And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

There is always that possibility when defining the true fast "sending out the gospel on our day of rest" share it with the poor . many did what is called striking wicked evil fist hoping it would get the attention of our father not seen he rebuked them and instructed them on how they could hear God not seen. as being heard on high Beautiful parable . . .Isaiah 58 King James Version Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God.Wherefore have we fasted, say they, and thou seest not? wherefore have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours.Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high. Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the Lord? Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh? Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the Lord shall be thy reward Then shalt thou call, and the Lord shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity; And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noon day: And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

Yes named by God names that were given meaning to be used to signify the understanding hidden from natural mankind. Like Moses meaning “drawn out” the one person used to represent the law of God and Elijah meaning "the Lord is God." the witness of God representing all the prophets therefore to the law Moses)and prophets Elisa (sola scriptural). The gospel, it will be silenced (killed) as God sends a fathom for hearing the gospel. Many references given in two different ways using two to equal one, Moses and Elijah. The law and the prophets. The law and its testimony.The father and the Son . Calling them one word as a labor of Love (sola scriptura) Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Below the word of God communing with the son of man. (inspiration) Matthew 17:3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. What others oral traditons call heresy mocking the word of God ... Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: Luke 16 16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. Then he used the word Moses to identify the law giver Luke 16 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And last if you do not hear the gospel empowered by God you will not rise on the last day under the sun Luke 16 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

I would add to the mix. The answer of Jesus the prophet the son of man when bowed down to in worship .was why call me good master. One is the good teaching master God, not man The rich ruler given the understanding of God knew he fell short of the glory of the perfect law . while he thought he kept the letter of the law "death" (thou shalt not) .he did not .He had no power of the faith of Christ the justifier two law making one perfect law . the ust one Christ and the justifier Christ .from faith as a labor to faith justification to justification Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Two the number that God has spoke. . just, justifier .(1) Let there be and (2)there was

Remember we as a fallen dying race that have no faith or power to raise from the dead, Faith to believe. . the unseen. . . is living power, the living word. We see the face of God through the knowledge of God " faith" the unseen things as knowledge revealed of God to the same "work of faith" or labor of His love. Faith is a work of God giving us his understanding . . not a wordily understanding according the philosophies of men but a law of understanding .The law of faith the creative law ."Let there be" and "he is our good teacher master as Lord"

It takes a little more studying digging yoked with Christ . Two layers of understanding .the temporal literal historical and the unseen eternal, by faith they must be mixed . God is light and not that he can only create it as he did on day four when he corrupted this earth and his glory as the light of the world until the fourth day and then departed until the end of time ..He set the two temporal time keepers Sun as source of glory and the Moon reflected glory called under the sun . . time winding down towards the last day 1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. In the opening of the revealing in Genesis 1 Let there be God as Light. God entered the scene revealing the shadows hidden from mankind as to thier unseen substance. On the last day under the sun in the new incorruptible heaven and new earth God will be again the literal light of the world then there will be no darkness no night Revelation 21: 22-25 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

Thanks for sharing and defining mandeanism as a secret eastern orthodox denomination .New to me. Must be a branch to the orthodoxy that use the wisdom of men as oral traditions passed down from the Sadducees , simular to the Pharisees , passed down as Roman Catholicism . Pharisees with Sadducees two groups as denominations that put aside their differences to come as one to destroy the gospel of grace in a attempt at hoping the flesh of mankind could profit for salvation.(sign seekers) No faith as it is written (sola scriptura) the sword of the Spirit. Matthew 16:1 The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven.