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My perspective of the woman, is of everyone today (including myself) who are trying to work out our current double mindedness (our love for this world toward solely love for God and our neighbor). They who work out their salvation who become singularly minded toward love for God and their neighbor (as were Peter and Paul), having no longer a love for the things of this world (Mammon), then achieve the status of the male child who is caught up spiritually to God in Heaven, as were Peter and Paul. They who give up, then end up along with those whose love for this world and its things kept them from ever attempting to reach for God and love for their neighbor.

I am also reminded by the Lord telling everyone in these last times to watch for the signs described in the Olivet discourse that include environmental destruction issues correlating with the plagues in Revelation 8. Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

I did not mention anything about waste disposal. I stated that the Word clearly shows that the plagues currently plaguing mankind are due to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce; and that these plagues are going to increase as described in Revelation chapters 8 & 9, and also mentioned in the Olivet discourse. The increased shedding of innocent blood, and sexual offenses, are because of increasing idol worship. Idolatry is the same as materialism. The more materialistically inclined people are; the less spiritually (loving their neighbor) inclined they become.

Micah 5 describes the Lords spiritual return, who begins to rule with a rod of iron along with His saints. Those who are opposed to the true guidance of the Lord, along with His saints who are caught up spiritually with Him, and miraculously greatly empowered, will then tread down all wrongdoers. This takes place during the millennium reign. As for belief systems; there are only two. You either believe in God, who is love, according to 1 John 4:8 & 16, and thus believe likewise in loving your neighbor; or you believe otherwise, in the world and Satan's oppressive ways of hate against your neighbor. Upon the Lords return, there will be many who will have thought that they did not believe in the Lord, to whom the Lord will declare that their love for others, was their belief in Him, while in contrast, there will be others who will have thought that they did believe in the Lord, but whose actions contrary to loving their neighbor;-- the Lord will profess Himself (love) never having known them (Matthew 25:31-46; 7:21-23); thus these individuals never having known God/love. 1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 1 John 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

Revelation 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. Recently in the news we have heard about the catastrophic wild fires in California that annually are continuing to grow due to increased global warming. These catastrophic wild fires have not just been increasing in California, but also in many other places throughout the world as well. According to Revelation 8:7, these conflagrations will continue to grow until 1/3 of earths trees are burned. In addition to increasing conflagrations, we are also seeing increasing weather anomalies throughout the world, one of which recently here in the US was the hurricane that inundated and destroyed parts of Western North Carolina, where hurricanes were never heard of reaching. We are also seeing increasing plagues,--Covid, and bird flu recently, that have also taken a toll on the environment. While over the last several decades many have denied man made global warming; --according to Revelation 9:20 the plagues that befall mankind in Revelation chapters 8 and 9, which take a serious toll on earth's environmental resources, are due to the love mankind has for the things his hands make--that today are primarily made by fossil fuel burning industries. So while evidence for increasing anthropogenic weather catastrophes is becoming more evident daily,--the love mankind has for the things his hands make, becomes more evident as the true motive for man's denial of truth in favor of advocating lies (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12). Though we are not yet at the point where 1/3 of earth's natural resources having been destroyed as depicted in Revelation 8 (mentioned briefly also in the Olivet discourse); we nevertheless see that Satan's mouth in Revelation 12 (that is also the beasts mouth in Revelation 13), will continue to advocate voraciously for the continuing status quo that is destroying the earth (Revelation 11:18), while becoming increasingly belligerent with those advocating the truth. Any guesses as to the current top world leader (mouth) who claims man made global warming a fabrication? Revelation 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Yes, Ok; our physical form need to change, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious Spiritual body.

Good day Isabella Khan, According to Romans 8, our carnality is enmity towards the Spirit which is of God. If therefore the devil who is in all of us, is for the carnal things of this world, he would then want to destroy whatever spirituality in us is at enmity with him.

Good day Isabella Khan, According to Romans 8, our carnality is enmity towards the Spirit which is of God. If therefore the devil who is in all of us, is for the carnal things of this world, he would then want to destroy whatever spirituality in us is at enmity with him.

The Lord provides numerous details about Babylon the Great; so, unless, some metaphorical city meets all the numerous criteria (some of which I have mentioned), it then is an actual city.

Hi Triton57, The Lord also tells us Babylon the Great is the that great city that reigneth over the kings of the earth (Revelation 17:18). Taking then also into consideration that Babylon the Great is a great merchant city of commerce today, whom the nations of the earth take their cue from; I would think the city today that best meets this criteria is NYC with Wall Street. Further support for it being NYC also appears in when God punishes Babylon the Great, all mariners at sea who see her conflagration (thus a city with nautical ports) will cry over her, seeing there will then be no one to do business with on par with that of Babylon the Great (Revelation 18:17-19).

OK Revelation Man, I understand your position on the Olivet discourse. In my opinion, however, by keeping watch of world news events, I see that many countries are currently on the brink of social and economic collapse. What these nations do then, I believe is represented by the four horsemen of the Apocalypse. Industrial nations, such as G7 nations I see represents the White horseman's agenda who will go out conquering others in order to acquire the raw materials it needs to keep its socio economic system viable. The Red horseman's agenda I see representing Communist nations, whose current collapse in progress in Russia and China, will initiate civil war among their citizenry in order to keep themselves in power. The third black horseman's agenda I see representing third world nations who when their socio economic systems collapse, will then initiate a sustenance in exchange for labor program. The fourth spotted or gray horseman's agenda, where Hell follows Death in eliminating one quarter of their populace I see representing Middle Eastern nations, where Death allies with Hell to carry out these massacres.

Good morning Diaste, You are correct that government collapse is not specifically listed;---but you have to ask yourself how nations are going to get to the point where they are initiating wars, along with many rumors of wars, as are listed? And why will family members be turning in other family members unto their deaths--if things aren't collapsing with conditions terrible? If these are to be the worst of times that mankind has ever experienced; --then how could nations not be in dire straits?

I agree that it is still the time of the building of the Body of Christ. I do, however, also believe in the tribulation of the righteous described in the Olivet discourse that is to precede the abomination of desolations 7 year period. I think that as many nations economies today are commencing to collapse, that we will then see some of these nations initiating programs targeting certain groups of people. The Lord does say in the Olivet discourse that even family members will be turning in other family members unto their deaths. And all this happening prior to the abomination of desolations appearance, standing where he ought not.

Good morning WilliamL, In addition to European nations becoming unstable now,--China and Brazil also appear to be in trouble. 2025 looks will be interesting.

While you may be right about none of the signs described in the Olivet discourse having yet occurred; one sign that I do see currently occurring is governments economies throughout the world are commencing to collapse. Once some of these countries economies collapse, I believe the tribulation period described in the Olivet discourse will then commence. This happened in Germany, when the Weimar republic's economy collapse, which as a result brought Hitler into the picture. In order to alleviate the great unemployment situation resulting from Germany's pre WWII economic collapse, Hitler initiated the murdering of various groups of peoples.