Revelation Man

Not at all, one has to understand CONTEXT in each situation. The seeds as a star is speaking about Abraham's seeds that lead to Salvation & his seed that birth a nation, which births the Messiah which leads to these seeds of salvation. Thus they all intertwine, it took Abraham's seed to Birth Mary, and God then gave them Jesus via Mary, who is the ONE SEED [of Salvation]. Israel birthed the Messiah, who was the Sacrifice for all mankind. Christ was the original PROMISE, the Law was ADDED 430 years later. There is NO DIFFERENCE, Joseph is the 12 star, they bowed down unto him in the dream. They worshipped false gods in part, mostly the leader. That is why Satan placed them into bondage, we all know they went astray. That is not what it really means. It means when the WORLD loves WORLDY THINGS over God they follow after Satan. If you see a man that goes with many women today and goes to bars every night, he FOLLOWS AFTER Satan !! Not God and his ways.

The Beast we are given in Rev. 12, 13 and 17 are FIGURATIVE BEASTS spread out over 2500 years, but it EXCLUDES the Church Age entirely basically, Rome did stretch into the early Church Age, but that is where the Mortal Wound to the Beast Systems come from, the Church could not be overcome by the gates of hell. So, this COMPOSITE BEAST is an entity God used to chastise Israel with, from Egypt and Assyria to Babylon, Persia and Greece, then via Rome, but the Church via its blood turned the Roman HEAD from a Beast Head to a city that helped the Church spread the Gospel unto the whole world. Also, there could be no TRUE BEAST over Israel because there was no Israel from the moment Jesus Christ died God rent the Temple (left) and turned His back on them for nigh 2000 years God saw Israel as Dead Men's Bones. Then in 1948 God brought the Whole Nation of Israel back into the land but with no BREATH (Holy Spirit) so He brought them back in a Godless form, then during the 70th week Zech. 13:8-9 says 1/3 or 5 million Jews will repent, the 144,000 is a CODE, its 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 or God shouting Fulness x Completeness. They are both men, women and children, just like the 10 virgin brides are not only females but all of Christendom. So, the OVERALL BEAST SYSTEM went away went under the Sea to be no more for a while, thus we had the Brits, French and Spain never consolidating power in full. Only when Israel is rebirthed could there be another Beast over Israel, notice in 1948 Israel is rebirthed, then in 1956 we get the Council of Rome the foreshadowing of the coming European Union. Once the Rapture happens as Israel joins the E.U. and gives up stupidly her Nukes, they will think they are SAFE..........but alas this Anti-Christ who is the LAST BEAST himself (666 = Man) will turn on Israel at the midway point and thus when he Conquers them and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region he HEALS THE WOUNDED 7 Headed Beast, it once again LIVES !! As a Beast Power Ruling over Israel. Yes indeed, the LAST BEAST is one man for a very simple reason, he rules only 42 months then Jesus TAKES OVER, thus he never passes his Kingdom on to another like all of the other Beast did. NOTICE: In Dan. 7:17 there were FOUR BEAST KINGS to start with who later became BEAST KINGDOMS. 17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth. So, they of course were Beast Kings only until they passed their kingdoms on to other men, that is why or how God gives us a LAST BEAST who is a man, not a Beast Kingdom, and why his "NUMBER" is 666 it just means he's a MAN not a Kingdom like Greece or Rome. Yes, he will be the E.U. President. Politicians and Religious TYPES can also be evil, look at all the Kings of Israel whom worshiped false gods, look at the lying priests they hearkened unto etc. etc. Satan is cast down to earth, and Apollyon and his demons in the bottomless pit are released, they can indwell and preform miracles. The False Prophet has to be a Jewish High Priest gone rogue, we have to have had the same two ARCHETYPES in history, remember Antiochus Epiphanes (AE4) was the Archetype Anti-Christ right? Well, he also had an Archetype False Prophet, a Jewish man named Jason real name Yeshua, who loved being a Hellenized Jew, he bribed AE4 to be named the High Priest, having his pious High Priest brother Onias III killed. He then welcomed AE4 into the temple of God to sacrifice unto Zeus and he MANDATED that all Jews become Hellenized or become Greek Types in Culture, who worshiped their Greek gods and took on their culture. This led to the Maccabean Revolt. In the end times, we will once again see a Jewish High Priest in league with an E.U. President (King), BUT ALAS.........the High Priest will also be a European Union Citizen, so of course it doesn't seem as strange now that he throws in with a non Jew from afar does it? And guess what, the 1290 is NOT the A.C. taking away the Sacrifice and placing the IMAGE (Dan. 9:27 and Rev. 13) but instead its his right hand man the False Prophet Jewish High Priest who STOPS Jesus Worship in "his temple" and he PLACES the IMAGE (see Rev. 13 the 2nd Beast or F.P. gets the people to place THE IMAGE of the First Beast). The A.C. doesn't even become he "Beast" for 30 more days yet at the 1260, EACH NUMBER is Juxtaposed against the 2nd Coming like this. 1335 = Two-witnesses Blessing, they turn Israel back unto God 1335 days before Jesus shows up at the 2nd coming. 1290 = the False Prophet, after the Two-witnesses get 1/3 of the Jews to repent they no doubt go into the Temple to praise Jesus. The High Priest gets VERY ANGRY at this, he's an old school type religious Jew like we see today, he thus FORBIDS Jesus Worship and cheekily places an Image of the E.U. President up in the Temple of God. He fulfills Dan. 9:27 in league with the A.C. if we notice that verse it says the man who signs the Covenant or AGEEMENT with Israel CAUSES these things to happen. This all happens 45 days after the Two-witnesses show up and 30 days before the AC/Beast is allowed to go forth conquering, AND 1290 days before the 2nd coming of Jesus cast the him and the AC into hell fire. The 1260 comes LAST out of the three events, not first. This happens 1260 days before Jesus shows up to take over the title deed of Earth by casting Satan into the Bottomless Pit. Now we know why when the Jews who repented see this Image in the temple they are not just killed but allowed to flee into the Petra/Bozrah mountains, that is not the Beast at the 1290, thus these Jews have 30 days to flee Judea before the 1260 gets here. It all goes hand in hand, but we have to know what these three numbers mean or we will never get the end time timing tells down, plus they make everything fit. NOTICE: The Two-witnesses DIE before the Beast DIES right? So, since God gave both of them 1260 day Ordained Earthly Office Times so to speak, that lets us know, if they die before the Beast dies they also have to show up before the AC becomes the Beast for 1260 days, its simple math. Most people miss his A-1 JOB. He has to prove God a liar in order to survive, thus Satan's ONLY GOAL is to kill off every Jew making God's Promised Kingdom Age a lie. These Miracles are meant to entice the 1/3 Jews in hiding to come out of their Petra/Bozrah safety zone, the rest of the world matters very little, as a matter of fact 1/3 of the world (New World imho) is set ablaze, that is why the USA allows this man to go forth conquering, the USA are burning to a crisp. He never conquers Russia nor China, he's ONLY OVER the E.U. and he then ONLY CONQUERS the Mediterranean Sea Region, the WHOLE EARTH the Prophesies were all about to start with was the Mediterranean Sea Region, thus they all came up out of the Great Sea. The supposed miracles are meant to try and trick the Jews who repented to come out and meet their "Come Again Messiah Jesus" but they WILL NOT FALL for it, you know why? Matt. 24:25-27 tells us, Jesus forewarns them and says do not go unto anyone in a Secret Store Room or in a Desert saying he is the Messiah, LOOK FOR ME TO RETURN in the Eastern Skies !! So, they can not be deceived, that is why in those verses Jesus says IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, its not, he forewarned them where he would be coming from. But Satan has to try right? And Miracles can be illusions right? Again I think THE WORLD here refers to the Earth Being Spoken about, in this one region. Yes, the map clearly shows this. Nowhere was any Religious Order a part of the Beast System Power Structure, they are The Harlot in general, the Zeus, Jupiter types etc. etc.

Gal. 3:16 says different. Then we must read Rev. 12:17 in a new light, HER SEED is Jesus, WATCH: 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And the dragon(Satan) was wroth with the woman(Israel), and went to make war with the remnant (The Church AFTER the Pre Trib. Rapture = a Remnant Church) of her seed (Jesus), which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Gal. 3:16 clearly says Jesus is that ONE SEED !! Not many seeds but just ONE SEED, Christ Jesus. Then we see Satan gets angry because he can not get at "The Woman" Israel, or better yet the 1/3 who repent which Zech. 13:8-9 says God protects, whilst the 2/3 will die. So, the 2/3 can not be The Remnant because its not a remnant, plus they never repent so they do not have the Testimony of Jesus, meanwhile the 1/3 are the ones Satan's Anti-Christ Army can not get at because the EARTH PROTECTS HER, just like in Egypt remember? God used the Wall of Fire and the Red Sea (THE EARTH) to protect Israel. That is what God does here also, and He also uses the Earth/Mountainous area which is like unto a Sheepfold that protects the sheep. So, this "Remnant can not be a Jewish Remnant, it can only be a Gentile Church Remnant (Small part of a bigger part), which means the Church of Christ is in Heaven, marrying Jesus during this time of troubles. Gen. 37:9 shows us who the Woman is in Rev. 12. John saw a Vision in the Heavenlies, look at Rev. 15 it says the exact same thing. 15 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. It has nothing to do with Israel being in heaven, Jesus was merely showing John the future in the 3rd Heaven, so John saw these heavenly signs in heaven but God also used the Sun & Moon to relay the message/code. It is a Great WONDER, which means: #4592 σημεῖον semeion {say-mi'-on} from a presumed derivative of the base of G4591; TDNT - 7:200,1015; n n —Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) 1) a sign, mark, token 1a) that by which a person or a thing is distinguished from others and is known. The only "Sign or WONDER" here is God telling John who this "Woman" is via all the clues God gives him. Its all Metaphoric. Israel birthed Jesus THE SEED. This is not factual brother, Israel never knowingly worshiped Satan, they at times worshiped false gods like fools, but never Satan himself. King Herod did, some Jewish leaders sought to kill Jesus the Messiah because they saw him as a Blasphemer. Israel as a nation never hated Jesus per se. Of course they sired Jesus who sired the Church. Not yet, but they soon will during the 70th week after the Rapture. God is a Spirit, He uses the Earth to protect Israel just like He used the Earth to protect them from the Egyptians. Joseph had THE DREAM, he was the 12th Star !! Of course. I have easily proven that the Woman is Israel brother, and Baby Jesus is the Male Child. Read Daniel 12:1-2, it says the exact same thing as Rev. 12 and it is End Time Events.

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People look at Matt. 24:4-31 all wrong tbh. But the Parable of the Fig Tree verses (32-35) you mentioned do indeed tell us what signs to look for, but it is speaking of the 10-12 signs Jesus just gave his Disciples in verses 4-31 so lets list them in a tidy set to make this easier. Verses 4-6 are specifically about the 67-70 AD events/wars. Verses 7-8 is Jesus merely demonstrating why vs. 6 CAN NOT be the end (70th week events/Jesus' return). Then in verses 9-13 Jesus reverts to his message to the disciples telling them how they will die, and warning them to keep the faith unto the end, then finally in vs. 14 Jesus shows again (VERY IMPORTANT) why vs. 6 CAN NOT be the end, because the Gospel has to be spread unto the WHOLE WORLD and only then can the end or 70th week come. Verses 15-31 are the 70th week. So, THE SIGNS are this: 70 AD Events in verses 4-6 1.) False christs coming in Jesus' name put forth by the scribes/pharisees, they saw Rome as the 4th Beast. 2.) Ye will hear of Wars & Rumors of Wars, but it is not Jesus come again, the 70th week end is much later on. Then Jesus DEMONSTRATES why vs. 6 can not be the 70th week end via verses 7-8. NOTHING MORE is meant here !! Signs that must come before Jesus' 2nd coming can happen, thus AFFIRNMING 70 AD is not Jesus come again, Jesus had to get them to understand this to keep them from rushing back to Jerusalem in 67-70 AD to fight for him, and the Church would have followed them an bee snuffed out in its infancy !! 3.) There must be many many, many wars of Kingdoms vs. Kingdoms and Nations vs. Nation( Ethos or Race vs. Race), this COULD NPOT HAPPEN under Rome, lol, the Disciples would clearly understand this. Rome would not permit this, so Jesus point of vs. 6 would have been easily understood by them. There shall be [much] Famine and pestilence and many, many Earthquakes in different places. The Disciples probably never saw this things happen at all, God needed His point to be understood by them. Later we saw the Black Plague, much famine, many earthquakes etc. ALL this not really important unto the overall lesson/prophecy Jesus was teaching his disciples, but modern day man makes these 2 verses he cornerstone to Matt. 24 when on fact they were really throw away verses, Jesus was just saying, remember vs, 6 where I said THE END is not yet? Here is why the end can not come in 70 AD, THEN HE LISTS WHY in verses 7-8 it can not be The End !! Jesus reverts back to the REAL LESSON in verses 9-13 4.) They shall kill you (The Disciples) but a vs. 13 says they MUST ENDURE until the end [of their LIVES]. 5.) False Prophets will arise, these were the clash of culture Zeus and Jupiter types who had the disciples killed because they were taking away their patrons, so they cried unto Rome. 6.) The Gospel must be preached unto the ends of the Earth, well the Disciples thus knew they would never see Jesus 2nd Coming, thus they would not rush back fir the 70 AD events, see how Jesus gave them a fool proof teaching here? They knew they had not reached China, India and the Scythians (modern day Russia) and knew that they never would reach the in their lifetimes, so they understood they would never see the 70th week end times themselves. Thus now vs. 6 made sense unto them. The 70th week FUTURE EVENTS to come 7. ) The AoD IN VS. 15 8.) The Jews Fleeing unto the Petra/Bozrah Mountainous area via the Greatest Ever Tribulation 9.) The False Prophet & Anti-Christ performing miracles. 10.) The Sun being Darkened and Moon turned blood red in vs. 29 THEN Jesus appears in vs. 30. So, what does the Parable actually say? It COMPARES the SIGNS Jesus just gave his Disciples with his 2nd Coming which is 7 years after the Pre Trib. Rapture which we see in verses 36-51. Matt. 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh(2nd Coming): 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. So, WHAT GENERATION shall not pass? The Generation (of Jews) who sees ALL OF THESE SIGNS or these things in vs. 33, and thus ALL means the LAST SIGN has to be the one seen by the very last generation, and what was that sign? The Sun & Moon going dark, that happens via the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact. So, here is the simple way to see it. Only the Jews living during the 70th week can see this LAST SIGN at the midway point of the 70th week so of course "THAT GENERATION", will see Jesus' 2nd Coming. Where are we now on that scale? Well, we have pretty much seen all of the verses 7-8 things which create a crescendo affect, of course all the disciples have been killed, we have not seen vs. 14 the Pre Trib. Rapture of course and nothing in verses 15-31 can happen until AFTER the Pre Trib. Rapture and during the 70th week. The next events are the Gog and Magog war which sets the stage for the AGREMENT where Israel joins the E.U. setting off the Rapture and 70th week events. Then the Jews who see the Sun and Moon go darker (DIM by 1/3) and the moon turn blood red will be the generation of Jews who see Jesus return to set up the Kingdom Age on this earth for 1000 years in Jerusalem.

Why? you never say why it doesn't fit. Lets just go over it. Rev. 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: (Gen. 37:9 Joseph saw this as the Sun (Jacob) Moon (Rachel) and 11 Stars (his brothers so it is in deed and can only be Israel). 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered(Israel delivered the Messiah). 3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads(This is Satan, the Crowns on the HEADS represent his rule over the whole world but ONLY DESIGNATES His particular rule over Israel and the Mediterranean Sea Region in this Prophesy, thus it can never be about The Church, who are not on earth during the 70th week anyway). 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth(Tells of Satan's FALL and the 1/3 who followed him, and who were eventually cast out of heaven): and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born(THIS is the King Herod story, where he tried to kill Baby Jesus but an angel warned Joseph & Mary and they fled to Egypt). 5 And she(Israel) brought forth a man(MALE) child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron(How can anyone not get this is Jesus? Who rules the earth with a rod of Iron? The Messiah as clearly shown below):and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne(Jesus Christ sits at God's Right Hand as we speak). John and Paul both used this phrase to refer specifically to Jesus Christ (see Romans 10:17; Hebrews 4:12; 11:3; 1 Peter 1:23; 2 Peter 3:5; Revelation 1:2; 19:13). Jesus Christ as the iron rod embodies the various interpretations of this symbol. He is the source of scripture. He is the ultimate measuring stick. 6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days(God protects Israel for 1260 days). The rest is about Israel repenting and being protected by God for 1260 days, in the Petra/Bozrah area. Verse 5 actually wraps up the CODE that gives us the players, verses 5-17 is the End Time Prophesy. The Male Child is Jesus and "The Woman" is Israel, here is the verse that proves it. Gen. 37:9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me(This = Israel, nothing else fits, and Israel BIRTED Jesus). I can not understand why this is still being debated tbh.

I'll go back and look so I can tag why the responses are in error, I have been doing this nigh 40 years now and have heard every argument on this 10 times, this is The Red Dragon (Satan) The Woman (Israel as Gen. 37:9 clearly shows) and Jesus the Male Child. The problem people have is they can not get God's timings correct, in many cases, this Prophesy is about the 70th week, the HEREAFTER as Rev. 4:1 says or after the Church Age (the Things that Are......as in our current Church Age). But the Prophecy needs to be SET UP via past events, so we get the CODE to the PLAYERS in verses 1-5, its that simple. When the 7 Headed Beast is mentioned, 6 are also past events, its woven in by God on purpose. Prophecy is like that. In Zech. 13 verses 1-5 is about the 70th week and Israel being cleansed by a Fountain (Jesus blood).......then in verses 6-7 we are told about the Shepard who is killed in the house of his friends and how his sheep are scattered, well that happened 2000 years ago......THEN, it reverts back to the 70th week in Zech. 13:8-9 where the 1/3 repents just before the DOTL arrives in the next verse (Zech. 14:1) so that is not only how prophesy works, it makes the prophesy MUCH MORE DYNAMIC, its spread out over 2000 years who but God could put that together? That is what we get in Rev. 12 also. I will go back, but this is cut and dry my friend, but nevertheless I love laying down information, who knows, after the rapture people might come on these sites and heed our words, and have a check list on who were correct the most.

The proper translation is "Male Child". The Child is Jesus, the Dragon sought to kill the child via King Herod, so much so Joseph & Mary had to flee unto Egypt. The Woman is Israel, the Church is not here during the 70t week. Israel repents after the 70th week starts hence the they are the First Fruits of the Fathers Bride Israel, we the Church are the First Fruits of the Bride of Christ, all Harvests do not come in at the same time. We are the Barley Harvest, which always came in before the Wheat Harvest, and Barley does not have to be "crushed" in order to be sifted & harvested, Wheat has to be crushed before it can be sifted & harvested. As a matter of fact the very word tribulation comes from a Greek word that describes a machine that crushes wheat, the Tribulum. Notice the 144,000 (a CODE for the 1/3 of Zech. 13:8-9 which has to be 5 million Men, Women & Children, just like the 10 Female virgins represents ALL men, women and children who are Christians) have "The Fathers name" on their foreheads, they are the Fathers Bride we are the Bride of Christ, Jacob had two brides, Rachel the preferred and Leah the forced bride.

You don't/can't but they simply refuse to make all scriptures fit. The Pope/RCC angle also does not fit. This is about 7 Kings or Mountain/POWERS that arise and the other 6 were Gentile Major Powers of the world or that region, God doesn't change His symmetry, as a matter of fact God uses these other 6 to reveal His end time Archetypes. So, the Pope/RCC fits nothing, the Order of Zeus nor Jupiter, nor any Order of the Egyptian Sun gods were ever ruling over the world and besides that the RCC was used by God on purpose (Pax Romanus) to take the Gospel unto the whole world, no matter what we think of their practices today, without the RCC the Gospel would likely have never been spread the world over. The Church of England became just as bad as the RCC, the problem was that the political powers that be got influence over these huge churches and corrupted them from the inside. The Mortal Wound was the early Church turning the Roman Beast from a Beast that killed Christians into a Conveyor Belt of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The Beast went back under the [Mediterranean] Sea after that for the duration of the church age, which will end with the pre trib. Rapture. Then Israel will sign an "Agreement" (Covenant) with the Anti-Christ led E.U. which means ONLY THIS, Israel will join the European Union, its that simple, that makes God angry, they basically give away His land and thus the 70th week starts up, AND the Rapture happens all in one moment in time. Then at the midway point or 1260 this A.C. reneges on his deal, he does not see Israel as a partner, but a foe he needs to kill off, after they gave up their Nukes in the Agreement to join the E.U. they are now defenseless against a much larger foe. If you want to see the "Play by Play" to this battle read Dan. 11:40-43 he conquers MANY COUNTRIES and Israel, or Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region, thus his nation looks just like old Rome on a Map. In Dan. 11:40-43 he Conquers COUNTRIES to get at Israel the Pleasant Land, so Turkey (Dan. 8:9 confirms this) Lebanon, Jordan and Syria, then he conquers Israel and all of North Africa, it says so in those 4 verses, but he can not conquer Ammon, Moab nor Edom, the very place Israel flees unto in the Jordanian Mountains of Central & Southern Jordan. (Petra/Bozrah region) This above is called the European Neighborhood Policy, its AGREEMENTS currently in place between the E.U. and all these nations, they run in, GET THIS.......7 year cycles..... BOOM. Notice how once he Conquers Turkey AND all these Nations suddenly Rome REAPPEARS !! SEE BELOW. This is why the 10 Horns (Completion = 10 and Horns = Power) or the Completed European Union comes out of the Fourth Beasts Head, THEN one arises amongst the 10, or is born in the E.U. and Greece is in the E.U. and Dan. 8:9 MANDATES he has to be born in Greece, thus a Greek man born in the E.U. There is a reason the Romans and Greeks had kingdoms that were around at the exact same time, the end time Beast is a Greek who becomes president of the E.U. Also, when it says Alexander the Greats 3rd Beast conquers the WHOLE WORLD (whole earth being spoken about, the Mediterranean Sea Region only......the Beast arise out of the Great Sea) we know Alexander nor his Four Generals ever conquered the WHOLE MEDITERRANEAN SEA REGION.....BUT....this Anti-Christ will, making him a Beast over Israel and the WHOLE REGION, just like Rome, thus now Alexander the Greats 3rd Beast can be said to also have conquered the WHOLE EARTH [being spoken about]. Thus the Dan. 2 prophesy is therefore fulfilled. God never says something without it coming to pass. Only a Gentile King (E.U. President) or Power fits here. Not Islam, and not the RCC.

Which is a part of Modern day Greece, he was a Hellenist King. No, there is no Assyria today, there is a Greece. An to boot, Daniel ONLY SPEAKS of the Four Beasts, so he is never coming from the Old Assyrian Beast. The Little Horn in Dan. 7:7-8 comes out of the Old Fourth Beasts Head (10 kings) AND in Dan. 8:9 out of the Greek Kings Linage (one of the Four Generals........IT SAYS SO. Dan. 8:8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven. 9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. He comes out of the Grecian Beast AND the Roman Beast. He's a Greek born in the E.U. which is Rome Revived. He will have Assyrian bloodline, h is not a Syrian, nor a Turk, nor an Persian, just like if this man named Trump was the Beast (a joke of course) he would be American not Scottish. The only way the Anti-Christ can arise out of the Third Beast AND Fourth Beast to be be born in Greece which is in the E.U. He ca have any blood whatsoever, he could be black (he is not of course) and still be a Greek born man who is also an E.U. Citizen because Greece is in the E.U. So, you guys just do not grasp this prophesy. Follow the lead, do bend the lead to fit a narrative. You act stunned when someone hears from God. The holy spirit never misleads us. Satan can deceive. I can hear anyone preach for 5 minutes and know if they are of God or not, you know why? The Holy Spirit BEARETH WITNESS. Go's truths are truths, on a written paper, out of ones mouth, or on the internet, truth is truth. Everyday should be Christmas right? All it does is acknowledge the birth of the Savior of mankind. The day it was on is not relevant.

WRONG........Paraphrasing means you repeat something from memory, and thus since the direction that comes first is IRRELEVANT it is not germane in any way to the verse, except unto you it seems. This is why I call it a dodge brother, you continue on this train, whilst dodging the pertinent points I put forth, Seleucus CAN NOT Conquer East and Ptolemy (Egypt) CAN NOT conquer South, so if either is the Little Horn how can they conquer both East & West? It can not be done. Thus your whole thesis is defeated. He must conquer BOTH South & East or East and South, you do understand this being said EITHER WAY means Southeast right? This is too simple, you try to make it complex, I find when peole do that its usually just a dodge. Southeast is Southeast, no matter whether its said as East & South or South & East.

Not choosing Jesus means you chose this world. Jesus said no man can love him and THIS EVIL WORLD. Prophets were killed in many nations and Saints in all nations. You totally get the 7 Mountains incorrect. It has nothing to do with ONE CITY anywhere, its about a Figurative 7 Headed Beast over Israel. Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome the beast that the Church gives a MORTAL WOUND unto. So, the Beast retreats "into the sea" because there is no Israel to Beast over during the Church Age, she is as Dead Men's Bones until 1948. Then after the Rapture the E.U. will Conquer Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region to become the 7th Beast Head. The LAST BEAST is a man who never passes his kingdom on, so its NEVER a Beast Nation and 6 is the number of man hence 666 places added emphasis on THE MAN BEAST. The 8th King is a Demon named Apollyon, he is currently in the bottomless pit, he was placed by Satan over Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, (see Dan. 10 this is the Demon who resisted Michael for 21 days IMHO) Greece and Rome, he will be over the Anti-Christ after he is released via the First Woe, THUS.......he was of the 7 and is an 8th (King of the Bottomless Pit). He is the Scarlet Colored Beast of Rev. 17, Satan is the Red Dragon of Rev 12 and the Anti-Christ is the [Man] Beast of Rev 13. 8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit(Not Satan nor the Man Beast hence hes the Scarlet Beast), and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. 9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains(7 Political Powers that ARISE), on which the woman (False Religion) sitteth. 10 And there are seven kings(Not HILLS of a City): five are fallen(Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia & Greece) and one is(Rome), and the other is not yet come(Anti-Christ/Man Beast); and when he cometh, he must continue a short space(42 Months ONLY as a Beast over Israel and the Mediterranean Sea Region). 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. Its not a City, its not Rome, Jerusalem, NYC etc. its 7 Mountains which means POLITICAL POWERS throughout the bible in many places. Rome will return or has as the E.U. the 10 Horns represents COMPLETION, not 10, thus the 10 Kings/Horns means the Old Roman Empire is Reunited as the E.U. and they will sign an AGREEMENT (Covenant) with Israel, but its not what people think, its simply this, they welcome Israel to join the E.U. and this sets everything off. How dare they basically "Gives God's Land Away" !! He thus starts off the 70th week by rapturing the Church, now the 70th week is under way. Apostate Jerusalem and Apostate Rome via the RCC are both just wrong concepts imho.

I am paraphrasing, but the DIRECTIONAL PLACEMENT MATTERS not, that just all in your mind brother, me thinks it just another way for you to dodge these realities. He Conquers South & East still means he conquers Turkey and Egypt, Seleucus can not conquer East and Ptolemy can not conquer South. Thus neither one can be the Little Horn. Give it a rest, the only thing I respect less than those who can not see the proper Eschatological timing is those who play games with wordings, at least they do it believing the Raptures timing can not be Pre Trib. Any intelligent person knows that the direction given first does not matter, that is a ploy by you to conflate the issue, and so I will not waste my time on that any further. You are WASTING TIME taking about what Direction comes first because I destroyed your whole thesis. You need to understand Eschatology is not your calling because you are in error on might near everything. Merry Christmas brother.

Any cred you ever had on end time prophecy was shot when you fell for this my friend. Ill just have to take your word for that, I still never heard of it until Joel came out with his books about it (should be in the fiction section). The 10 are the E.U. the Beast Kingdom is being spoken about, thus they have power for 42 months "AS A BEAST over Israel". No, he's a Greek king, your repeating it a million times will not change those facts my friend. Dan. 11 is all about the Four Generals inter-kingdom battles. The Assyria portion is the mans actual blood lineage. That's all. He conquers East and South, meaning He conquers his two main foes, Seleucus (Turkey today) and Ptolemy (Egypt). God could not say he conquers East, West and South, then you would not know which one of the three it was save Egypt would be crossed off. Libya is nor relevant to Dan. 8:9 only Egypt is. We get the DIRECTION in Dan. 8 that gives us THE OVERALL CLUE, in Dan. 11 we get the actual battle which matches up with Dan. 8:9, if you do not try to get to technical. One (Dan 8:9) is giving us the overall clue as per to which one pf the Generals the Little Horn has to come from via a simple Four Way Directional Map. Dan. 11:40-43 is the actual battle. History records him as a Hellenistic King, and you know this. Its not debatable. Already did brother. Bloodlines travel, he can be a Grecian born with Old Assyrian blood, and where would he be eligible to become the President at in Syria or Turkey? No, in the European Union !! Hes a Greek Hellenite King. The LIST..............is the LIST......... Greek King............I can say it a many times as needed. Greek King of the Hellenistic order. I wonder why you never hear God, as a Christian that worries me. You are in error, nothing else is important to me tbh. I have been in error many times, thats how one comes to understand God word, he has to ALLOW the Holy Spirit to correct him, men who can not do this never get these Dep Truths God desires to give us. When your in Heaven, ask God to give you access to this Worthy Message Board and follow along my written words as everything plays out just as I put forth that it would. It is a testimony of God the revealer of truths. Have a Merry Christmas my friend

I added the evidence in another post or at the bottom via an edit, I forget which atm. God calls Rev. 16:19 the 7th Vial Great Babylon's Destruction via His Wrath. And they are called in Vial #6 the Kings of the WHOLE WORLD. Of course, Babylon is Satan's Dark Rule of CONFUSION over Mankind, his rule is taken away at the 7th Vial when God/Jesus defeats his henchman the Anti-Christ & False Prophet and their Armies then locks him up for 1000 years and that equals Babylon has Fallen. The world being Judged is a part of this, as is Satan being cast down to earth for the last 1260 days, but it all comes to a head when he gets cast into the bottomless pit and can not deceive the masses anymore for a 1000 years. Yes sir, and it all goes back to the 7th Vial's lingo, who takes us back to the 6th Vial to see who is defeated. Rev. 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts(Jerusalem/Earthquake), and the cities of the nations fell:(Jesus defeats his enemies at Armageddon, but who are they? Lets see in Vial #6) and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. Rev. 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. SPOTON ........SEE ABOVE All the nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her immorality(Babylon the CONFUSED MASSES have drunk the wine of Satan's leadership of excess, Greed, Adultery, Murder, Hate, Rape, Lying etc. etc. ). The kings of the earth were immoral with her, (Satan was their PREFERED god, they choose and loved Greed, Sexual Perversions, Money and Lust over God) and the merchants of the earth have grown wealthy from the extravagance of her luxury.” The Merchants of Babylon are simply those who chose THE WORLD's Luxuries over the one true God holy word and Jesus. The Kings of the WHOLE WORLD fight God why? Because they choose THIS WORLD & Satan over God. Might want to under how God uses prose at times, He s not giving us actual men's reactions and lives, but THE HEART OF MANKIND in prose. Babylon is the WHOLE WORLD, the Kings of the WHOLE WORLD fight Jesus at Armageddon. Woe, woe woe the the WHOLE WORLD (Babylon) God calls 7 Kingdoms a Beast with 7 Heads, He calls False Religion a Harlot Woman, he calls the 5 million (1/3) Jews who repent the 144,000 via a code, He calls Demons Locusts in Rev. 9 etc. etc. Its prose man. God is going to Judge the WHOLE WORLD which followed Satan and not God, who loved Money, Greed, Lust, over God and hos word and his beloved Son Jesus. God shows us the TWO SIDED COIN in Rev. 17 (False Religion) and in Rev. 18 (False Governance meaning they follow Satan, not God).

So, what is the 1/3 of the World that will be burning? The AC will not need to conquer them, or rule them (he couldn't anyway) and he never rules China nor Russia they are the "troubling news" he gets in Dan. 11:44-45. He only rules over the E.U. of which he is President and the Mediterranean Sea Region & Israel. The New World is the 1/3 that burns to a crisp. Jesus is going to rule from Jerusalem/Old World. This is why the AC power waits........until the USA is pretty much destroyed by this Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact.

Its not Jerusalem, nor Rome, (nor is Rev. 17 the RCC) nor Babylon, its an ENCODED MASSAGE to the Church that tells us the WHOLE WORLD will be Judged by God.

God has never stated anywhere that the Little Horn will be a Muslim/Arab, that is just your bad interpretations brother. Both are correct. Anyone who can't see these understandings I refuse to trust anything they say about Eschatology. It is an advantage for me, if I see thee things I know this person will not be putting forth anything correctly on Eschatological End Time Events on the main, so I just use that to my advantage, I go in knowing they cant be right on anything about the end times. Not doubting a few people did, Satan loves deceiving people in general. The point stands, it was not made semi popular until Richardson started writing books on it. Wound up THREE MAJOR PLAYERS [at the end]. Those two and Greece/Cassander. Also, in the end time passage the story revolves around those three, Turkey, Egypt and the Greek Man who comes to power in the E.U. (10 kings). The KOTN changes throughout the Syrian Wars at times it was the Seleucid kingdom vs. the Ptolemy kingdom. In Dan. 11:40-43 however it is the Greek born man who comes to be the ruler over the E.U. (President) Looks NORTHWEST to me. Its North and West of Seleucus and Ptolemy. Seleucus via this map CAN NOT Conquer to the East, and Ptolemy CAN NOT Conquer to the South so both are disqualified. The Little Horn is used in two successive chapters in Dan. 7:7-8 and Dan. 8 and you can't get that means he comes out of both Rome and Greece? Cassander and Lysimachus together mostly became modern day Greece, so he could be born in either one tbh, but not in Seleucus or Ptolemy. You simple can not or refuse to see clues that go against your preconceived notions. Only Greece is both North and West of Israel. Seleucus is East of Israel and Ptolemy is South, so neither can thus conquer East and South. Your just grasping at straws brother. As per me & Daniel 11............................ He was a Greek born in Rome but whose hometown was Corinth Greece. When the USA ruled Japan were they Japanese kings? When the Brits ruled 3/4 of the world the were still English subjects right? Calling Antiochus Epiphanes a Syrian is just you again trying to force your interpretation to fit, it will never fit brother. His dad was born and died in Sousa Iran that does not make him a Persian. What part of Hellenistic Kingdoms do you not get brother? He will be Greek, he will have Assyrian Blood, not Syrian, do not mix those two up, Assyria was Northern Iraq and Southern Turkey and it was 500 years before. Its just you trying to force it, they head Assyrian in Isaiah 10 and elsewhere, then assume it means Syria, then try to bend Antiochus a Hellenistic King into being a Syrian King, when Assyria is not Syria to start with. That is you calling it seems. Look up Hellenistic Kings............... Hellenistic Kings Here are some Hellenistic kings: Seleucus I Nicator: Ruled from 312–305 BC Antiochos I Soter: Ruled from 294 or 293–281 BC Antiochos II Theos: Ruled from 261–246 BC Seleukos II Kallinikos: Ruled from 246–226/5 BC Seleukos III: Ruled from 226/5–223 BC Antiochos III Megas: Ruled from 223–187 BC Seleukos IV Philopator: Ruled from 187–175 BC Antiochos IV Epiphanes: Ruled from 175–164 BC Antiochos V Eupator: Ruled from 164–162 BC Demetrios I Soter: Ruled from 162–150 BC Alexander Balas: Ruled from 150–145 BC Demetrios II Nikator: Ruled from 145–140, 129–126/5 BC Antiochos VI Epiphanes: Ruled from 145–142 BC Antiochos VII Sidetes: Ruled from 139/8–129 BC Kleopatra Thea: Ruled from 126/5–123 BC The Hellenistic Age lasted from 323 BC to 330 BC Looks like he was a Greek King brother. I miss nothing , this is my calling of God for 40 years. Too many people not called unto prophesy love to dabble in it, well that is OK but God has designated people for designated jobs. Hes on the list of Hellenistic Kings. END OF DEBATE. Why? Is God a liar? He calls whom He chooses for what He chooses. The reminder is because God reveals His secrets to those he called, he did not give his Daniel passages to someone named David fir a reason. That seems to escape you. Because you are in error, I do not know about "EVERYBODY ELSE" I think that is your assumption brother. And you wonder why everything you say on Eschatology has to be seen by me as wrong !!

And by the way, I understood this about 8-10 years ago in full because the Lord rebuked a blog I was writing saying that THAT CITY in Rev. 17:18 was Rome, and showed me who Babylon was at the same time, its in plain sight and we miss it, in ONE VERSE (2 passages really) God tells us who He sees Babylon the Great as. Rev. 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts(Jerusalem/Earthquake/2nd Coming of Jesus), and the cities of the nations fell:(Jesus SPEAKS VICTORY) and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. Now we jus need to see WHO Jesus/God defeats at Armageddon right? It's too easy. Rev. 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. So, God tells us Jesus in Revelation 16:19 defeats Babylon the Great THEN He describes them as the Kings of the WHOLE EARTH in the 6th Vial. I do not just guess brother. I call Babylon the WHOLE WORLD because God calls it that.

Yes, it is the whole world who followed after Satan's Lies, Greed, look at the world today, promoting homosexuality with rainbow colors on sports teams, for filthy moneys sake etc. There is a reason Babylon was used, God is all knowing, He wrote the book of Revelation in a way which we could later read this great book, if it had been written saying Rome or THE WHOLE WORLD would be judged and destroyed, then Rome would have seen that is treason because they saw themselves as rulers of the whole world, so they would have placed anyone with those letters/holy word in prison. So, instead God used the word Babylon, which was a Dead City, and Roman rulers/soldiers seeing this would no doubt have laughed at these "Christian lunatics", that is why the word was used, its up to us to understand God is never going to judge ONE CITY, the scriptures shows us 100's of verses saying the world will be judged, yet you guys see Babylon, which God has already stated will never be a lived in city again, and think Babylon will be rebuilt, all because you do not do what Isaiah says, here a little, there a little, line upon line precept upon precept, hes telling us all scripture has to be meshed together and still fit. Babylon will never be a city again unless God's word is in error, thus why use Babylon, well I showed why God used Babylon as a catch all for this whole world being judged. Now I will show what it means verse by verse, at a point it becomes mostly prose. The World being Judged by God which starts in Rev. 8, runs through Rev. 9 and 16. Rev. 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory (God's Glory descends, its Judgment time, Satan is cast out of heaven in vs. 2). 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils(Satan has been cast to earth, not Babylon, and the earth's ownership by Satan has been TAKEN AWAY, she can no longer DELIGHT in Evil, that is why Satan gets locked up when Babylon falls), and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her(Men have forsaken God for the love of money, for lust, for perversions and the seducer is Satan, the god of Babylon or THIS WORLD, remember Paul called Satan the god of THIS WORLD), and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues (So, Satan is CAST DOWN and IMMEDIATELY we see God is calling the 1/3 in Israel who repent to Flee Judea, in Rev. 12 we understand that story, why not here? Its the same story). 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities(God Judges the WHOLE WORLD, not ONE CITY). 6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. 7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day(DOTL = 42 months), death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire:(1/3 of the worlds trees burn, smoke gets so thick it dims the suns light) for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. 9 And the kings of the earth(Its telling us in varied places the Kings of ALL THE EARTH and Merchants of ALL THE EARTH have played folly with her or Babylon THE WORLD of lies and seduction under Satan), who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning(Rev. 8 is 1/3 of the World burning not ONE CITY), 10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour (42 months) is thy judgment come. (Now we start the PROSE of this worlds title deed being taken away from Satan the Deceiver by God via His Judgments on mankind, who have been CONFUSED by Satan for nigh 6000 years at that point in time. Its mostly just prose telling us the Hearts of these WICKED MEN and how they now lament and cry because of this judgment on their BELOVED Babylon (world) they so loved more than they loved the Creator, the loving God who gave them life) 11 And the merchants of the earth(EARTH not Babylon, Babylon is Satan's DARK Kingdom over Mankind and he rules the WHOLE WORLD as Luke 4 tells us) shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:(The world is ablaze, men are hiding in caves, there of course is no trade going on anymore as verses 11-15 shows us over and over) 12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble. 13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. 14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her(by following THE WORLDS WICKED WAYS, will look on stunned and fearful of JUDGMENT), shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city(The whole world is being Judged, not ONE CITY, we intuitively KNOW THIS, yet we take verses out of context or fail to see why words needed to be used), that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! 17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought(the World is Judged in 42 months, not one hour, it is merely a code that can be understood by reading Rev. 17:12). And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, 18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning(What burns? The World burns, 1/3 of its trees meaning 1/3 of the world burns, nit ONE CITY brother), saying, What city is like unto this great city! 19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city(Their world which made them rich is destroyed, the LOVED this Evil World more than they loved God), wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate. 20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. 21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. (God judges the World and avenges the deaths of EVERYONE, not just men killed by Babylon) 22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; 23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee(The Church is in Heaven with Jesus the Bridegroom for 7 years, we ARE NOT on Earth for this Great Wrath on All of Mankind): for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived(By Satan's DECEPTION over mankind). 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. How can the blood of ALL THE SAINTS and PROPHETS be on Babylon's hands? Because Babylon is Satan's Dark Kingdom of CONFUSION over Mankind.

It is not one city, the name Babylon comes from Babel (Confusion). In Rev. 17 & 18 we have a two sided coin, Religion & Government getting judged by God. Who confuses the masses? Satan and his demons. Who has power over all the cities/nations in this world according to Luke 4? Satan told Jesus all these kingdoms have been given unto me, and I will give them unto you if you will just kneel down and worship me. So, in Rev. 17 we see an Angel shows John a vision, and it is only in verses 3-6. This Harlot woman is described, then we are told this is a MYSTERY, then we are given Three Descriptors that describe unto us who this Harlot is, meaning its no longer a Mystery MYSTERY (this is a Header or ? mark) 1.) Babylon the Great is a DESCRIPTOR here, nothing more. Babylon is world renowned for its FALSE RELIGION. 2.) Mother of Harlots is another DESCRIPTOR, because FALSE RELIGION is the original Harlotry. 3.) Abominations of the Earth also DESCRIBES who this Harlot is. God HATES all FALSE RELIGION. So, God is telling us that the Harlot (False Religion) who rides the back of these [Government] Beast Kingdoms in that they all had false religions interspersed amongst them, are both going to be judged. God will use the Anti-Christ and his 10 (E.U.) kings to kill off False Religion, in that he demands to be worshiped as the only god. Thus they kill her and burn her with fire, simply meaning they forbid all religions except Beast Worship, and anyone who refuses to worship the Beast they will kill. She has the blood of the Saints (Jews throughout all history) and the blood of the Martyrs of Jesus (Christians) so False Religion covers all time on earth, and is in every nation on this earth, thus the MANY WATERS verse. The Scarlet and Purple verses is another clue it has nothing to do with the RCC because it represents GOVERNMENTS & RELIGIOUS ORDERS. Those two colors were very hard to create and thus very expensive, one came from a small rare bug and the other from seeds of a shrub in Egypt, thus common men did not wear these colors, only Gov. Royals or Religious Orders. Thus the Woman rides the Beasts back. (False Religion & Governments were co-mingled) What is Rev. 18 about then? That is the WHOLE WORLD (Babylon under Satan's Dark rule over mankind) being Judged by God. NOTICE in vs. 2 Babylon (World) has become a HABITATION of Devils, and......Satan gets cast down at the midway point of the 70th week, AND Apollyon and his demon hordes are released at the 1st Woe !! Then in vs. 4 we see God says "Come out of her (Babylon/World) my people (Israel who repent) lest you partake in her sins and her plagues". This is God telling us about the 1/3 who repent and flee into the Petra/Bozrah area. In Rev. 18:8 and 10 God says Babylon will be Destroyed in ONE DAY and in ONE HOUR, well, both mean 42 months. The Day of the Lord lasts 42 months. And as we see in Rev. 17:12 the 10 Kings rule ONE HOUR with the Beast or 42 months. This is not ONE CITY being Judged, its the whole world being Judged by God over a 42 month period.

We know all that, but God says thee are Four NOTABLE Generals who won out. So why mention something not seen as worthy of mentioning by God? There wound up three major players, Seleucus, Ptolemy and Cassander. In the end time this man is born in Greece which is in the E.U. that is what scriptures say. It is not about PAST EVENTS, but future events. All that matters from here on out is who will be the KOTN/Little Horn/A.C./Beast, and scriptures tell us, he must come from Greece and from the E.U. (10 Horns that arise from the Fourth Beasts Head !! Why is this SO HARD? Its arising from his HEAD !! ) All the clues must mesh. I know, but there were the FOUR STRONGEST, and by using four God sets up a Directional Map of North, South East & West, just like in Rev. 7 when he speaks about the Four Winds (Judgment). He loves leaving us clues we can and should decipher, but which the world of unbelievers can't understand. The only clue that matters overall is he has an Archetype in Antiochus Epiphanes a Greek Gentile, and which direction he comes forth from, the North & West of these Four General's OVERALL TERRITTORY. It actually says Four Horns/POWERS arise in his stead. BUT...even if it was 100 generals and generally an OVERALL AREA being spoken about, and the directional parameters were what we were being given, then he still would have to come out of the Northwest portion of the OVERALL Kingdom. But alas, because of the Four Horns we know Gpd is telling us there will be Four MAIN POWERS who arise in Alexander the Greats Stead or Place.

What person? I kind of knew that because I went back and rewrote the text taking out YOU and putting putting in PEOPLE Are you saying a translator did this, or someone on this board etc. etc. etc.? So, it seemed like on rereading you were pointing to some one changing something, and since I know I did a copy & paste it could not be me. Thus the changing of the wording. But if you were saying I did that whilst paraphrasing a verse somewhere else, the direction's timings matters not, notice the verse gives us Israel or the Pleasant Land last, and if he attacks Egypt before Turkey, that makes ZERO LOGICAL SENSE, and his goal is to get at Israel right? so why would he attack Egypt first, before Israel? So we now know, the positioning in the verse means nothing, its merely given unto us to tell us WHICH DIRECTION this last King of the North (A.C./Little Horn) comes from in a Four General (Four Winds type riddle). And thus he must come out of the Northwest Corridor, or Cassander/Greece. So, to get to Turkey he has to go both South & East to get there from Greece and from the E.U., it does not matter at all which is spoken first. That was probably just their way of saying he travels Southeast to conquer them. Basically, the writer Daniel was told this Four Way Generals Battle, (the 7th Syrian War) has a built in directional map, and this end time Little Horn will travel from the North and West to Conquer and that includes Israel, well it was a GIVEN that the Northwest Corridor was Greece thus he has to be a man from that region that conquers the rest of the Four Generals Regions in full, WHY? This is the 7th Syrian War, and 7 means Divine Completion. So, since the Greece/Cassander area is where this Little Horn power comes from, he will not only conquer Israel, but the whole region of the other Four Generals Kingdoms. Explained above, you read way you much into stuff like this, this is simply telling us which one of the Generals is the Little Horn, neither Seleucus nor Ptolemy can conquer in BOTH DIRECTIONS in this Inter-Kingdom battle, only Greece can, so God is giving us a huge clue here, he's basically telling us where the Little Horn must be from. Add that to Dan. 7:7-8 and we know why !! Greece is in the E.U. SMH that you can not see past these simple things brother. WRONG, you have to grasp at straws because I blow up all your points via clear scriptures.

It is a very SIMPLE VERSE Brother... Dan. 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land(Israel). I wonder hat part of that do people not understand, he WAXES GREAT Towards Israel, means he CONQUERS THEM, because we know Prophesy says HE CONQUERS Israel in the end times right? So, MATCH IT UP, Waxes Great TOWARDS means he Conquers, and thus he Conquers in a simple Four Direction Generals Map, TOWARDS the East and South. meaning he comes out of the Northwest Corridor of this Four General Kingdom. People take bad conclusions from other men I discounted long ago, and try to fit the scriptures, I take the Scriptures and ask God to reveal His truths unto me and some times, MANY TIMES, that can take 15-20 years or more, God does things in His own time, but Satan loves tricking those who are not patient. Patience is a big virtue brother. That is THE POINT, he can only conquer East & South if he is from Cassander or Greece. Well, not really, you can have many prophesies about one person or event, written at different times. I suspect you are talking about your biggest hang up, the Pre Trib. Rapture, which is very easy, it should not be something that trips you up brother.

Not really, because no one had this as a possibility until he put it forth 20 some odd years ago. I know people on here who buys into Russia is the Bear, England is the Lion, the USA is the Eagle etc. and even if they do not understand this came from Herbert G. Armstrong's Worldwide Church of God, its still factual that they are espousing Herbert's bad prophetic understandings years after he has departed from this earth. I never heard anyone argue about an Islamic A.C. until the late 90s, then after 9/11 it became the Soup of the Day. Yes, a Head Wound of a "Figurative Seven Headed Beast" as in Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome in which this Beast System is MORTALLY WOUNDED by the Church, then once again (after the Churches Rapture) the Beast arises again out of the Sea and Apollyon is released from the pit. The Wound is healed, Israel will once again, (after not being so for 2000 or so years) be under the Beast System, as the Anti-Christ aries to power, then Conquers Israel and THE MANY Nations in the MSR. That is because this chapter is about how the Greek Kings Lineage leads us to the Archetype A.C. in Antiochus, and verses 36-45 show how the end time Greek king (AC) who is like unto Antiochus will also defile the Temple, kill many Jews, and be killed WITHOUT HAND by Jesus as Antiochus was killed by a disease on the Eastern battle front. The period of this End Time Beast sees Greece in the E.U. so he's BOTH a Greek who is also an E.U. Citizen because Greece is in the E.U. of course. Asia Minor, Mesopotamia nor Egypt are in Greece/Cassander. There were Four Generals not 2 right? He was a Greek King. As I stated, the End Time Anti-Christ MUST BE a Greek Born King. This is my calling by God for 40 years as a preacher and teacher brother. You guys biggest issue is you do not take all the verses God gives us on this/many subject(s) and combine them all, here a little there a little, just like my point that Jesus had many prophetic utterances about his 1st coming, they had to all be combined to be understood. He's out of Egypt, AND born in Bethlehem, well a thinking, God man should have known BORN is BORN, so the Messiah must have later moved to Egypt for a period of time (he did). He did when Mary & Joseph fled to Egypt. I am blessed by God because I seek His truth in full, I do not jump to conclusions at all. People actually take scriptures and warp them, or misunderstand them, like in Rev. 4 where Jesus talks about the Throne of Satan being in Pergamum, he's simple talking about the Temple of Jupiter, who was Zeus, who was Bel in Babylon and Baal before that. So, they say wrongly he's from Turkey having no idea what the info means in reality. As per unto Eschatology ONLY. Any man who can not get the Pre Trib. Rapture correct, I do not take much of any of his Eschatology serious. I mean how can I? If you can not get the right starting point on END TIME EVENTS, them everything is going to be OFF KILTER right?