Revelation Man

Indeed do a deep dive on every festival, but I can give you a summary understanding of what they mean, then a more detailed reason why they show a Pre Trib. (pre 70th week) Rapture. When Jesus stated no man knows the day nor the hour, he was referring unto when he returns for his bride, at the Feast of Trumps. So, God gave Israel 7 Feasts to keep, and they had no idea that He was giving them a "Shadow Glimpse" at the whole history of the world through these 7 Feasts. I could give you the Hebraic/Jewish name for each, I will just give it in English verbiage. There were 7 Feasts and Jesus has to fulfill all 7, though they did not grasp that at the time, and of course, many Jewish people still don't, but 1/3 will understand it all very soon. Jesus Fulfills the Spring Feasts via his first advent: Jesus fulfilled all three 1.) Passover (Jesus' blood is our Passover blood on the door) 2.) Unleavened Bread (Jesus was WITHOUT SIN or "Unleavened") 3.) First-fruits (Jesus was the First-fruits of the Grave. He overcame Death as 1 Cor. 15 says) Jesus is now fulfilling the Feast of Weeks aka the "Summer Harvest/Church Age" 4.) Feast of Weeks (Jesus is the head, we are the body, he is our high priest in heaven, and we via Jesus' direction are "Harvesting Souls for the Kingdom of God". We are in the Harvest Season now, and that season was all alone on the calendar, just like the Church Age is separate from the Spring Feasts & Fall Feasts) Now we need to set up The Feast of Trumps JUMP. The Feast of Trumps always ended the Harvest season, so think of it as also ending the Church Age here. Now we know why Paul stated the Rapture would happen at the Last Trump, now we know why John in Rev. 4:1 stated Jesus' voice sounded as as a Trump. Jesus will end the Church Age Harvest by calling us home, hos voice saying come up here will quiver like a Trump and only we who are sealed with the holy spirit will be able to hear it. Jesus was seen by God as Dead Men's Bones for nigh 2000 years, Gid rent the temple, signifying He left Israel to fend for themselves in Desolations. The reason God brought Israel back into the land was because once the Church Age is over, Jesus has to set up the promised 1000 year Kingdom Age which Jesus taught his disciples to pray for, "Thy Kingdom Come"....... Jesus gave us a clue when the Rapture (Pre Trib.) will happen, he said no man can know the Day nor Hour. These Feasts were on God Time, via a Lunar Moon cycle. And as we know a moon has different phases, no one could know the exact day nor hour that the New Moon would come in, it could come in on a Tue. just before the Sunset, the Next day on Wed. or on Thursday just after sunset, so in a 25-26 hour period the Moon could have given them a New Moon, and they thus had no clue on what day nor hour is would come, but they could understand the Sunrise and Sunset patterns. This is why Israel were on the Lunar Moon Calendar. But Israel could know withing a few day period when that New Moon was coming, of course, so they knew "THE SEASON" and so should we. Jesus will fulfill the Summer Harvest/Feast of Weeks by blowing a Trumpet or Calling his Bride hoe and ending the Harvest Season/Church Age. 5.) Feast of Trumps ( Israel sent men into the mountains to spy out the New Moon, once they saw it they starting blowing the Shofar in 11 sets of 9 or 99 times, then on the LAST TRUMP or the 100th Trump, the Harvest Season would end, and it also meant that the Feasts of Atonement and Tabernacles were very near.) 6.) Feast of Atonement (What is the 70th week meant to do? It is designed to get Israel to repent, and Zech. 13:8-9 tells us 1/3 repent, then in the very next verse in Zech. 14:1-2 we see the Day of the Lord Arrives, or God's Wrath, so Israel repents just before the DOTL falls. Now Jesus can return at the 2nd Coming and will have Jews saying Blessed is he that coms in the Name of the Lord like Matt. 23 says will happen. 7.) Feast of Tabernacles (So, what does Tabernacle mean? It means to "DWELL WITH God", so Jesus is now fulfilled the Harvesting of Souls through the Church. He will call the Bride home via the Last Trump. Then Israel repents at the 1335, 45 days before the 1290 AoD, and 75 days before the Anti-Christ conquers Israel, thus Jesus will return and DWELL with Israel via the Kingdom Age for 1000 years. The 12 Feasts were meant to show us Israel's full future in history, and the Gentiles who accepted Jesus as the Messiah are to fulfill the Summer Church Age Feast. Jewish peoples will fulfill the other 6 Feasts.

Overthinking it..........God confounding the Language simply limited knowledge from going forth speedily. Take a million computers and put a computer code in them where they can't communicate and you just stymied knowledge from being spread. Babylon itself is different, that is God referring unto Satan's Dark Kingdom of Confusion on earth. Rev. 16:19 mandates that is what it has to be. The Tower is totally different.

Question, why would building a TALL TOWER threaten God's desires for mankind on earth? I mean, they could never build it too high, heck no higher than what we have now, so what did the Tower of Babylon really symbolically mean? It meant KNOWLEDGE. By confusing the languages the knowledge of mankind could not become exponentially greater in a short timeframe, thus allowing God's 6000 year plan to come to fruition in full. As soon as we got Computers knowledge did what? ZOOM, ZOOM, ZOOM !! Because it overcomes language barriers and mathematical equations in a much faster way. The Computer/Internet made us one peoples worldwide again, working together to bring evil mankind's schemes to pass in unison. It was never a tower per se God was stopping, but the knowledge to do great things together, like building a tower. If God had not confounded the languages, who knows, we might very well have had first gotten Computers 4000 years ago instead of 50-100 years ago.

This has nothing to do with Syria, this little horn has THREE PROPHETIC UTTERANCES that have to all mesh together. The Assyrian is in reference to the Old Assyrian Empire, mostly Northern Iraq and Southern Turkey now with a very small slice of Syria mixed in. So, yes this man will have Old Assyrian blood in him, CHECK, Isaiah 10 so much as says thus..........BUT, we have to other Prophetic data points that have to also become reality. Dan. 8:9 mandates this Little Horn must be born in Greece because of the Directions he conquers in. He conquers TOWARD the East or Seleucus/Turkey and TOWARDS the South or Ptolemy/Egypt and TOWARDS Israel. So, since God gave us, on purpose, a four way directional map via four generals, we can see he must conquer from the Northwest Corridor of these four gen. kingdoms. Thus has has to be born in Greece and LOOK AT Dan. 11, why do people think we get every Greek King from Alex the Great to Antiochus, and finally the AC (11:36-45) ? Because he is a Greek born man. Lastly, Dan. 7:7-8 also has to fulfilled, he has to arise to political power via the 10 horns (Completion = 10) that arise out of the Fourth Beasts Head (Complete Europe Revived = the E.U.). And lets shrink this down, a man with a Family that migrated from Turkey to Greece at some point in the last 2500 years, is born in Greece (in the last 40-60 years IMHO) which is in the E.U. and thus he is eligible to become the E.U. President. Prophesy solved. I wrote a blog on this 10 years ago. By the way, the 2300 is not 2300 days but 2300 Evening and Morning Sacrifices, the scripture says so, and since that is a twice a day event it is thus 1150 days, which fits inside the Beasts 1260 day rule.

Jesus was perfect because he was God the Redeemer, not because of any works per se. Jesus tells us to be perfect like the Father because our goal is to transform our lives from men living after the flesh to men living for the Spirit. We can be perfect if we live in Christ and heed his every thought and follow his voice, by not putting Him off to follow our own flesh, most do not even get close but its theoretically possible. How so? Because our old man Adam is born first but the New Man of the Spirit is born last, so God has forgiven all of our sins right? We can therefore chose never to sin again, YES........Our Flesh body is still corrupted by sin and can not enter heaven, but our Spirit man who is of God can enter Heaven. We can chose not to sin and our Spirit Man will remain pure, but of course that never happens, or rarely happens, God took Elijah but only hos Spirit Man. God took Moses but left his bones/body. I think you are confusing our Sin Flesh which can never be redeemed with our Spirit Man which has been Redeemed by Jesus' blood. We can chose to follow God and not to love sin.

We can't be in the Wrath of God, which is what Blade meant by saying there is no Anti-Christ out there, which is not the technical term, he should have stated no Beast, who comes on the scene as the Beast over Israel at that exact time frame. The Anti-Christ of course has to be alive pre 70th week in order to make the Covenant or Agreement with Israel (Israel joining the E.U. is that Dan. 9:27 Agreement IMHO) Now to answer the question in full, the 6th Vial entices the people (with the Mark of the Beast) to go to Israel or Armageddon in order to fight God/Jesus but they only do so via the Dragon/AC and FP lying unto them, it says so in the verses. Why must they be lied unto? (KEY......KEY POINT) Because as the 6th Seal shows, they are all hiding in caves (or other hiding places, lol) via God's Wrath, so in order to entice them to even go to Israel to TRY and kill all the Jews Satan has to lie to them, but it will not (of course) work if God's Wrath is still falling right? So, we know men can cross Modern Rivers easily right? Thus, it makes NO SENSE to say the Euphrates dries up so that they can cross it to get at Israel........BUT, if it is just a Metaphor for God's Wrath DRYING UP, then it all makes perfect sense, those cowards in the cave can now be enticed out, they can lie saying, LOOK, LOOK, LOOK, the Two-witnesses have DIED (end of the 2nd Woe) and then the 3rd Woe started (the 7 Vials are the 3rd Woe which emits from the 7th Trump), but God's then DRYS UP His Wrath and since the 2 Witnesses prayed down all the Wrath each time, they are fooled into thinking its all over, the Two-witnesses dying finally stopped all the Wrath, after all they watched on live TV as the Two-witnesses prayed down all of God's Wrath each time, just like Moses did in Egypt. So, they buy this lie an d head to Armageddon, and thus Jesus will show up at the 7th Vial and wipe out the Nations in Rev. 16:19, and God calls them Babylon the Great (Satan's Dark Kingdom of Confusion over Mankind). The Rapture (Departure of 2 Thess. 2:3) MUST HAPEN before God's Wrath can fall.

You have no clue about it, it seems, that tells me you really do not understand prophesy at all. And Paul wrote about it and Jesus explained it, you just can't dig it out because the whisper has spun you with a tall tale. I'm to the point its not even worthy taking on the debate, you guys just are not able to dig these truths out. It is what it is. But you will be proven wrong.

Yes sir, it is a translated word that does not mean Jesus was coming back SOON, He even says only the Father knows the day and hour, but he knows the plan, and he knows its roughly 2000 years away, so why did he use SOON? He did not say soon, its a misunderstanding of what that word means, and we can see this by looking at all the 4 or 5 words it can be defined as. The word actually means ZOOM, ZOOM, as in Fast, Speedily, In Haste etc. My Online English Bible translated from Greek word study link The Reuelation 602 of Iesus 2424 Christ, 5547 which 3739 God 2316 gaue 1325 z5656 vnto him, 846 to shewe 1166 z5658 vnto his y846 x848 seruants 1401 things which 3739 must 1163 z5748 shortly 1722 5034 come to passe; 1096 z5635 and 2532 he sent 649 z5660 and signified 4591 z5656 [it] by 1223 his y846 x848 Angel 32 vnto his y846 x848 seruant 1401 Iohn, 2491 Notice the TWO NUMBERS behind SHORTLY? Lets see what they mean. Think Tachometer or SPEED/FAST. #1722 ἐν en {en} a primary preposition denoting (fixed) position (in place, time or state), and (by implication) instrumentality (medially or constructively), i.e. a relation of rest (intermediate between G1519 and G1537); TDNT - 2:537,233; prep —Greek Word Study #5034 τάχος tachos {takh'-os} from the same as G5036; TDNT - n/a; n n —Greek Word Study 1) quickness, speed —Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon) From the same as G5036; a brief space (of time), that is, (with G1722 prefixed) in haste:— + quickly, + shortly, + speedily. —Strong's (Greek Dictionary of the New Testament) #5034. So, look at the other words in the bunch, they all are speaking about a term (the Greek word TACHOS where we get Tachometer from) that implies SPEED, in Haste, Speedily, Quickly and SHORTLY, so why is shortly in there? It seems to be the odd man out right? No, It means Jesus is coming in a SHORT TIME BURST when God the Father sends him, meaning ZOOM, ZOOM, ZOOM, this is why DEEP DIVES in to original words have to be done my friend. So, EN in means Space or Time, so at a FUTURE TIME, when God sends Jesus he will return in a SHORT TIME FRAME (Shortly) or SPEEDILY, or IN HASTE or QUICKLY. I know people who go down rabbit holes because of this ONE VERSE, all because they refuse to put in the hard work it take to divide the holy word properly. It NEVER MEANT Jesus was returning Shortly or soon, it meant when he returns he will be here in a FLASH as in Zoom, Zoom.

Oh brother, so anyone who studies hard and gets the facts is a false prophet to you. The simplest Prophecy to understand is the Pre Tri. Rapture sister, when I see someone can not get that, believe me, it will be hard for me to ever trust that persons Prophetic advice. Now, they might can preach Salvation to the youth better than anyone I have ever seen, because even though many love to talk prophesy, most are not called unto it, and this its not a gift they will ever have, to some is given the gift of Faith, to some Wisdom, to others Prophesy. People have to know their calling sister.

That is not what is written, you just assume, it seems, that Revelation is in chronological order, IT IS NOT, so you made an erroneous assumption. All one has to do is look at all the 1260 day timelines ones to understand the book of Revelation can not be in chronological order, you trying to insist it has to be is not going to make it that way. You your first error is saying God says it is, when it is not and God never said it was. Rev. 8, 9 and 16 covers Good's 1260 days of Wrath.No3 lets pick out the other books that cover 1260 days. Revelation ch. 11 is the Two-witnesses 1260 day ministry, BUT they die before the Beast so their 1260 days have to start BEFORE the middle of the week hence they are the 1335 Blessing of Dan. 12 BUT.......its still a 1260 day Ministry for REASON. Rev. 12 sees the Dragon chasing Israel(Woman) for 1260 days. Rev. 13 tells of the Beasts 1260 day rule on earth. Rev. 17 says the 10 Kings rule ONE HOUR with the Beast and we know that has mean 1260 days because Rev. 13 says so. Rev. 18 Says Babylon (Whole World) is Judged (by God's Wrath) in ONE HOUR and in ONE DAY both reference 1260 days, the ONE HOUR in Rev. 17 and the DOTL lasts 1260 days. Trying to say that all fits in a chronological order is just an erroneous assumption sister. I been called unto Prophecy 40 years, I was told the Anti-Christ was in the world in 1986 in a vision. God has never led me wrong, but Satan will try to confuse the all important TIMELINES if we do not refuse to accept other men's opinions that can not be true, because of simple timeline guides and guardrails. These presentation pointers you make, do not mean you understand what was WRITEN per se, we all know it was written, the point I am making is you do not understand these timelines, but think you do. When you get to heaven you will know instantly you were in error sister. I will let a 10 year old blog of mine do away that misunderstanding sister. You trust in the KJV translators which lied and placed Falling Away in the book to try and call names to the RCC which they were insinuating were leaving the Faith behind. Lets see, both the RCC and Church of England at that time were evil, they both tortured people etc. etc. Is the Falling Away a False Teaching? I have evolved with much study on this. I used to argue to all that there had to be this great Falling Away also. All because of this one passage. 2 Thessalonians 2:3. I do agree that the world gets far more evil towards the end (now), as foretold in Romans chapter 1, and as Peter said, there will be scoffers in the last days etc. etc. But I do not think the true Church can "Fall Away", either you are of Christ/God or you are not, and will get left behind by the Bridegroom. Anyway, here is my understanding of 2 Thessalonians 2:3. “Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction…” – 2 Thessalonians 2:3 (NASB) This verse is used by many and they say it implies a "Falling Away" from the faith. But a guy named Tommy Ice has shed some exceptional light on this passage. Mr. Ice has pointed out that the Greek noun, apostasia, is used only twice in the New Testament. The other occurrence is in Acts 21:21 where it states that an accusation was made against Paul that he was “teaching all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake [apostasia] Moses.” The word is used in verb form a total of 15 times in the New Testament, and only three of these have anything to do with a departure from the faith (Luke 8:13, 1 Timothy 4:1, and Hebrews 3:12). In other settings, the word is used for departing from iniquity (2 Timothy 2:19), departing from ungodly men (1 Timothy 6:5), departing from the temple (Luke 2:27), departing from the body (2 Corinthians 12:8), and departing from persons (Acts 12:10 and Luke 4:13). This insight about the use and meaning of the word was certainly compelling, but the argument Mr. Ice presented that was most convicting was his revelation that the first seven English translations of the Bible rendered the noun, apostasia, as either “departure” or “departing.” They were as follows: 1.The Wycliffe Bible (1384) 2.The Tyndale Bible (1526) 3. The Coverdale Bible (1535) 4. The Cranmer Bible (1539) 5. The Great Bible (1540) 6. The Beeches Bible (1576) 7. The Geneva Bible (1608) Mr. Ice also noted that the Bible used by the Western world from 400 AD to the 1500s — Jerome’s Latin translation known as “The Vulgate” — rendered apostasia with the Latin word, discessio, which means “departure.” The first translation of the word to mean apostasy in an English Bible did not occur until 1611 when the King James Version was issued. So, why did the King James translators introduce a completely new rendering of the word as “falling away”? The best guess is that they were taking a stab at the false teachings of Catholicism. One other point Mr. Ice made that I think is significant is that Paul used a definite article with the word apostasia. The significance of this is emphasized by Daniel Davey in a thesis he wrote for the Detroit Baptist Theological Seminary: Since the Greek language does not need an article to make the noun definite, it becomes clear that with the usage of the article, reference is being made to something in particular. In 2 Thessalonians 2:3 the word apostasia is prefaced by the definite article which means that Paul is pointing to a particular type of departure clearly known to the Thessalonian church. In light of this grammatical point, Tommy observed that “the use of the definite article would support the notion that Paul spoke of a clear, discernible notion.” And that notion he had already identified in verse 1 when he stated that he was writing about “our gathering together to Him [Jesus].” This interpretation also corresponds to the point that Paul makes in verses 6 and 7 where he states that the man of lawlessness will not come until what “restrains” him “is taken out of the way.” And what it is that restrains evil in the world today? The Holy Spirit working through the Church. I think when the Church Departs, the Anti-Christ will be free to come to power. I do not think this has anything to do with a Falling Away. It is the Church Departing before the Anti-Christ is brought forth. The King James Bible changed the known understanding that has been around for 1500 some odd years. ------------------------------------ There will come a DEPARTURE of The Church BEFORE the DOTL or God's Wrath falls onto mankind on this earth, but if one reads to right, Paul is also saying the Anti-Christ has to show up BEFORE the DOTL also. Maybe that is what confuses you sister. Both the Departure/Rapture of the Church and the AC must show up before the DOTL (middle of the 70th week events) can come to pass, we know this because he makes the 7 year Agreement. So, of course he also shows up BEFORE God's Middle of the week Wrath falls on mankind. The Departure or Rapture happens when the makes an Agreement with Israel (and the Many nations in the Mediterranean Sea Region) whereas Israel joins the E.U.

Do you even listen? I just stated the word used for star is the Greek word Aster, and that is also the word used for asteroid. Stars are gas and thus are not going to become asteroids in most cases.

Will not happen until the middle of the 70th week, thus 3.5 years AFTER the Pre Trib. Rapture. The same word used for Stars = Aster, which the word Asteroid derives from, of course no Star has ever hit the earth, maybe fragments of Planets have, but stars are pretty Gas balls, but they thought a space rock coming in on fire was a STAR, of course they would, so everything is relevant to that moments understandings of those people living at that time. The Asteroid is the Mountain cast into the Sea in Rev. 8. Its not a star. Also, Angels are called stars, so when it speaks of Untimely Figs being cast down to earth, I assume that is Satan and His demons being cast down to earth at the 1260 middle of the week events (DOTL)

I agree, Jesus was speaking in different terms than most people assume when using generation, but in the parable of the fig tree everyone misses his point when he starts the parable with the word LIKEWISE. We have to therefore understand what he meant by LIKEWISE, and thus we have to go back a couple of verses to tie it all together. 29 Immediately after the tribulation [starts] of those days[which lasts 1260 days] shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. So, we can not understand THE TIMING of The Generation Jesus is speaking about until we figure out what LIKEWISE is referring to. 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. So, what are THESE THINGS Jesus is referring unto when he says LIKEWISE? Well, verses 4-29 tell us a story of false christs, earthquakes, famine, pestilence, false prophets, the AoD, a Fleeing Israel in a time of troubles, THE Anti-Christ & False Prophet, and finally in verse 29 THE Sun & Moon event that sees their lights go dim by 1/3 (Rev. 8, Trumps 1-4 cause this). So, when you see ALL THESE THINGS ends with the Sun & Moon going dark/dimming, AND THEN.............Jesus returns in verses 30 and 31. So, it is self explanatory, all THESE THINGS can only be seen by the last Generation of Jews living during the 70th week of TROUBLES (Jacob's Troubles) when they see this, an Asteroid Impact that causes the Sun & Moon to go dark/dim by 1/3 because 1/3 of the world is ablaze. THAT GENERATION is the Generation of Jews living during the 70th week who are living when the 1260 middle of the 70th week, DOTL event happens, so of course they will see Jesus' return, not those who die, but THAT GENERATION, will indeed see Jesus' return 1260 days after this last event(THESE THINGS) happen.

We were grafted in tom the Family tree, God CHOSE to reveal the whole history of His plan for mankind in the 7 Feasts, the first is Passover, are you saying Jesus' blood is not applied to you/ Of course not, because that was God's A-1 plan, so the 7 Feasts apply to Israel and you, whether you know this or not. Feast #2 is Jesus having NO SIN (Unleavened) and that also applies to you and I also right, because it took a perfect sacrifice to purge our sins. Jesus that was the First-fruits of the Grave, if Jesus had not risen then he couldn't overcome death. then we would be doomed. So, indeed all 7 Feasts apply to you, I and Israel. The Middle Feast is the Church age harvest of souls and since SOME Jews are a part of Christs Bride it applies to MOSTLY us Gentiles, but unto Jews also. Thus the TIME of the Gentiles is speaking about or 2000 some odd year SERVICE unto God. Thus when it comes Full that means we are out of here. Then as the LAST TRUMP blows we are Raptured to Heaven, but not the Jews who have not yet repented as a Nation. The LAST TRUMP blows via Jess calling us to Heaven, see Rev. 4:1. Thus that applies unto us. Then Israel MUST ATONE, this applies to the Jewish Peoples Only. Go protects Israel in the Petra/Bozra area. Finally Israel will DWELL with God or TABERNACLE with God. The 7 Feasts are not for Israel nor us per se, they are foretelling us the whole History of the world before it happens. No, the Feasts are God FORTELLING us the worlds History 3000 plus yeas ago. Jesus spoke in parable, you need to study them sister. We will not be here for the 70th week. PERIOD. YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND PROPHESY SISTER. The falling away was DEPARTURE in the first 7 English translation. 2 Thess. 2:3 is the Rapture. God Bless

Sorry about the delay, been out of pocket a wee bit, my mom has an old Mama Cat who is sick and my Mom is also bedridden and I have been having to help out with her and her older cat who was also sick, which upsets mom. With God there is NO TIME, so sometimes we confuse His messages unto us that are unburdened by time constraints. So, this chapter ends ON THIS EARTH the Marriage Supper is Armageddon, we return with Jesus to defeat the Beast and all his minions, whilst in reality Jesus just speaks victory, we are still with him and share in this victory of the ages. Satan is then bound So, we know that God already lives in that victory. But we live in a Universe where there are tie constraints, so we are not yet living in the victory. Not in the first portion of the chapter, we see the Church has not yet Married the Lamb, and we see the Church in Rev. 4 & 5 with these same White Robes/Raiment on, so that portion of Rev. 19 has to be before most of Rev. 4 and Rev. 5, but after Rev. 4:1 where we see the Rapture take place. It is not pre trib. Its pre Rev. 4 & 5 save Rev. 4:1 THE RAPTURE which come just after Rev. 2 & 3 (Church Age). Of course if the Bride is in Heaven it can not be Pre Trib. but it a 7 Year Sojourn in Heaven with the Lamb, so as I think I stated its Pre Marriage to the Lamb, which happens at the start of the 70th week. It IS NOT Post Wrath because we see the White Raiment on the Saints in Rev. 4 & 5 and in Rev. 7:9-16. God's Wrath only starts in Rev. 8. Before this it clearly says in verse 7 for the Marriage of the Lamb HAS COME, and his wife (Church) has made herself ready !! thus its the first part of the 7 years not the end. 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. Verse 14 then says the Army that comes with Jesus has on White Fine Linen, meaning the Church returns from Heaven with Jesus Of course the Church is Jesus Wife/Bride. You know this. The White Linen represents we have been washed in Jesus' blood Verses 8 and 14 combined says different, we are Jesus WIFE, you left that art off for some reason. Then vs. 14 says those who have that White Linen returns to earth with Jesus, the the Pre Trib. Raptured Church Marries the Lamb then returns with Jesus. Of course He does, that is why 5 of the 10 Virgins MISS THE WEDDING and why ONE IS TAKEN and ONE IS LEFT, also a 50% ratio, you see half the Church are fakes. God knows the heart. So, many will truly turn to Christ during these 7 years an many will become Martyrs. That is why they are called The Remnant in Rev. 12:17. It is the Remnant Gentile Church. Everywhere, you just have to understand how to interpret it properly sister. Lots of places, we meet him in the air......Rev. 14:14 He harvests us from upon cloud. Not on earth. Rev. 19 PROVES we marry the Lamb IN HEAVEN then return with him, who do you think is his Bride The New Testament tells us over and over we ARE HIS BRIDE. Yet that defeats you thesis, so it can't be right? But it is true sister, we are indeed his bride. We are, he is nit worried about Demons at all, God could have wiped them out long ago, with a SPOKEN WORD, they only have a legal right to earths deed because Satan tricked Adam & Eve, but that ends after 6000 years. God gave Adam DOMINION over the earth and Adam lost it by listening to Satan. I show it, you do not grasp it sister. The Pre Trib. Rapture is baby stuff compared to what I put forth via other Prophetic Details.

You are just in error on this Sister, thus its you who are adding your own interpretation, REMEMBER, just because you do not understand something, does not mean others are adding to scriptures. The 7 yearly Feasts to not end at the Feast of Trumps, did you not know this? They end with the Feast of Atonement followed by the Feast of Tabernacles, which is a hint unto us at the history of the World, with the Jews history slap dab in the middle of it all. 1.)Spring Feasts Jesus Fulfilled all three Then God left Israel deserted for nigh 2000 years and called upon the Gentiles to spread the Gospel worldwide with Jesus as the in waiting Bridegroom & our High Priest in heaven. This is.... 2. (The Feast of Weeks/Harvesting of Souls/Church Age NOTICE The Feast of Weeks or Harvest lasts 2000 some odd years as the Church Age, its the Calling or SERVICE of the Gentiles Period. This period WILL ONLY END.....When Jesus blows the Last Trump which ALWAYS ENDED the Harvest Season. This the Fulness of the Gentiles [SERVICE] will be come in, and the 70th week will start that must see Israel Repent/ATONE and then Dwell with Jesus for 1000 years in the Kingdom Age. 3.) The soon to come Fall Feasts Jesus will fulfill all three by rapturing the Church PRE 70TH WEEK, even of you can not grasp this concept my wonderful sister in Christ, it is still going to happen. So, the Feast of Trumps stops the Church Age Harvest, and starts the 70th week which God Himself designed to get Israel to Repent/ATONE and we see them atone in Zech. 13:8-9 JUST BEFORE the Zech. 14:1 DOTL arrives. Then lastly, after Jesus 2nd coming (not before, of course) Israel will DWELL WITH God/Jesus for 1000 years during the Kingdom Age Jesus prophesied unto his Disciples about. Thy Kingdom COME..........COME......COME.... unto earth. No, we are raised at the Pre Trib. Rapture and travel together to be with the Lord just as 1 Cor. 15 tells us. We all meet in the air and go TOGETHER to be with the Lord. Jesus brings them with him by raising them from the dead, they sure aren't still alive, TO SLEEP means to rest in the Grave. You rely way too much on the English bible and seemingly do not do deep dives in these translated Greek and Hebrew words. Many Soccer coaches have gotten in trouble speaking in broken English because things sometimes just does not come out right. The FALLING AWAY, is the Departure of the Church/Pre Trib. Rapture. You will find out soon sister. God Bless

Your reply has nothing to do with my Daniel post

Not quite, this is what it says, it finishes up (fills up) God's Wrath, (which starts with the 1st Trump).

You have to go deep into study to understand God Lingo at times. 1.) The Word for Star and Asteroid derives from the same word starre 792 is ASTER........so that is where the word asteroid comes from also. 2.) The Angels are seen as Stars, Lucifer was the Morning Star. In Job, it says the Stars all met. meaning angels. So, when it says the Stars were cast down like UNTOMELY FIGS, I see that as Satan and his Demons being cast out of heaven at the midway point (1260) of the 70th week. The Sun & Moon darken by 1/3 because of all the Trees Burning, we see 1/3 of the Trees Burn, thus 1/3 of the world burns, I assume its the New World that gets set ablaze, hence 1/3. That smoke will indeed filter out our sunlight by 1/3. The Dinos were killed because the Asteroid that hit caused a sulfur mist that blotted out the sun, and thus no crops could grow, and since most Dinos were plant eaters, they died off.

The 2nd Advent, where Jesus comes to rule, is not the Rapture. The Rapture IIS CLEARLY us the Church, and Dead in Christ, going to heaven to marry the lamb. Why go to heaven if Jesus is going to be on earth for 1000 years? You are just in error sister, and looks like you will always have this one hang-up/flaw in your thinking. Rev. 19 is Jesus Marrying the Church, the White Linen/Robes signifies our Purity as Christs Bride, in Rev. 4 & 5 we already have on those White Raiment. Rev. 2 and 3 = Church Age Rev. 4:1 IS THE RAPTURE, Rev. 4 and 5 is Jesus in Heaven with his ALREADY WED Bride. Rev. 6 Is Jesus taking off the Seals that BIND God's Judgments and telling the Church in heaven what is soon to come, we are still moving in PERFECT CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER so far. Rev. 7 is Jesus telling the Two-witnesses (Who show up 1335 days before the 2nd Advent/Coming) to get Israel to repent JUST BEFORE God's Wrath falls in the middle of the week, at the First Trump in Rev. 8. We are still in Chronological Order as we move in to Rev. 9 where Trumps 5 & 6 brings us Woes #1 and #2. Here us where the Book of Revelation DEPARTS from a perfect Chronological Order. To stay in order we must move to Rev. 16, where the #3rd Woe is released from the 7th Trump, thus all of God's Wrath emits from the 7 Trumps. Now, the other chapters all (mostly) happen during this 1260 days of God's Wrath that takes place in chapters 8, 9 and 16, but they all have a special designation about them, for instance Rev. 11 is specifically about the Two-witnesses 1260 day ministry on earth and how they pray down all the plagues. Thus they die before the 7th Trump (3rd Woe) because they have already prayed it down even though it has not come to pass yet when they die, but that is on purpose, they are the 1335, and thus must die 75 days before the 2nd Advent of Jesus, and thus we understand the 7th Trump or 3rd Woe lasts 75 days. Rev. 12 is the Dragon chasing Israel (The Women) for 1260 days. Rev. 13 is The Beast ruling for 1260 days. Rev. 14 like Rev. 19 covers the 1260 days BUT MORE, in that vs. 14 is a cinematic flashback to the pre 70th week rapture by Jesus from UPON A CLOUD (we meet him in the air to go to heaven to marry the Lamb), likewise as I stated, we Marry the Lamb BEFORE Rev. 4 & 5 that is why we have on White Robes as seen in Rev. 4. What you miss is Rev. 19 is all about the 7 Years (7 days) we spend in the Fathers Wedding Chambers (Heaven) that is why t covers 7 years. Backing up now to Rev. 17, that is the Harlot (All False Religions) being Judged by the Beast and his Kings. Unlike the other Beasts, this last Beast desires to b Worshiped as the ONLY God thus there is no place for any other Religions in his kingdom, so he will wipe out Islam, Buddhism, et al religions. God will then Judge the False Religion of Beast Worship (those who take the Mark are killed). Rev. 18 is Gd judging the WHOLE WORLD. Until people grasp the real chronological order of the book of Revelation, they will never grasp the book in full.

If you can't see it you do not want to see it. NO MAN..........in the Region they are speaking about, the 7 Headed 10 Horned Region measures what? All Kingdoms in the Mediterranean Sea Region. You problem is you can not grasp the parameters you have been given. There will be no Worldwide Gov. that is a misinterpretation by some and a fantasy by others like Alex Jones who is super intelligent, but who I do not think is a true Christian, you do not get angry then take the Lords name in vain, and go oh well, start talking about Christ again, but people like him I put in the fantasy bin, I put Christians in the misinterpretation bin. Satan has ONE PLAN, to survive, he has to prove God an inerrant God, whose word is not true, the only way to do this now, since Jesus the Son has fulfilled his mission, is to kill every Jew on earth to prove God's promises to Abraham were a lie. NOTICE: He has been trying to do that for 2000 years or more, in 70 AD, he though he could finish them off by dispersing them worldwide, in WW2 he tried to kill them all, and will try that again after the Rapture. So, prey tell me what strategy makes the most sense, trying to rule the whole earth or ruling the one area where he can kill every Jew after they have all gathered back, as is prophesied. You are not using sound logic, nor do you understand the WHOLE EARTH or LAND is about the Mediterranean Sea Region in every instance. You refuse to admit Babylon nor Greece ever ruled the whole world, all because you know it defeats your point. Proof of what I stated above. Now google and find anywhere that Babylon or Greece or even Rome ever ruled the WHOLE WORLD. You lose this debate auto brother, and you know this. There is no such thing, the Day of the Lord lasts 1260 days PLUS 1000 years, why do you think it is called the Day of the Lord? Its the day he starts taking back the TITLE DEED to earth which Satan stole from Adam & Eve, and it takes1260 days of Wrath to clear out all the vestiges of evil, and to then have Jesus sit at the throne of the Kingdom Age for 1000 years. Satan is currently deceiving the WHOLE WORLD but there is no ONE WORLD Gov. and never has been. It is just a misinterpretation and a fantasy. This was too easy to overcome brother, you conflated Satan's deception and WORLD RULE by a huma form of Government. My, my, my, my, my, you really do not grasp prophetic writing in the old style do you? What do you think vs. 6 means? 6 And one said to the man clothed in linen(Jesus), which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? Dan. 10-11 (really through 12:1-2) was ONE LONG VISION, then the two Angels and Jesus start talking with Daniel. So, when the Angel asks HOW LONG SHALL IT BE UNTIL THE END OF THESE WONDERS, he is talking about everything Daniel just saw in Daniel chapters 10, 11 and verses 1-2, which all goes together there were no Chapters and Verses brother. It goes like this in reality. Dan. 11:44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many. 45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him. (HERE IS HOW HE COMES TO HIS END BELOW) Dan. 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. So, we get the Daniel 10 & 11 Visions of warfare, Greek rule from Alexander the Great to Antiochus Epiphanes in verses 33-34, then we get the End Time Anti-Christ/Little Horn/Beast in Dan. 36-45 and after we are told he dies we are told HOW HE DIES, by a Great Period of Troubles, and Michael the Arc Angels stands up to protect Israel AT THIS TIME.........What time? At the time the Beast is ruling in Daniel 11:36-45. Brother you have a really hard time comprehending these TIMING TELLS as I like to call them, you are used to modern techniques where they tell the story in a linear manner I guess. My, this is just astounding brother that you can not see verses 1-2 is just the finishing off of the story, stop looking at the verses and chapters as being divided where the English KJV stated they were and use you intuitive gifts from God. You are trying way to hard to cross i's and t's and not looking at these things as written by the holy spirit. Matters not where the KJV divided it, but where God Himself divided it. How do you make this simple mistake? You look to MENS WORKS in the KJV and not the actual writing form that was used. So, you think verses 1-2 COME AFTER he has died, when its just telling how he died and who saved Israel from this evil man. COME ON. God uses 10 as COMPLETION, therefore He is ALWAYS CORRECT, He can not make you or others understand His lingo if you refuse to accept the facts, if I told you once I have told you a million times, God uses 10 Brides to represent the COMPLETE Church, and you understand that, but refuse to admit that is also what He is doing here with the 10 Horns. Also, 7 represents Divine Completion, so 7 Heads (Gov. powers) and 10 Horns (Complete Europe Reunited) under this ONE MAN'S AUTHORITY, is God lingo, you accepting that are not is just on you brother. So the NUMBER matters not, just like the USA was a COMPLETE NATION when it had 13 States, 48 States and 50 states, and if we add Canada as the 51 states all would be spoken of in Prophetic Lingo by God (if He chose to prophesy about it) as 10 (Completion). He most certainly is. It is all about Beasts over Israel, in all the other Beasts who were conquered? Israel. Why was the Brits nor Ottoman Empire a Beast? There was NO Israel in the land. When God says Alexander the Great Conquered the WHOLE WORLD did he just mean Earth in the MSR? Or the WHOLE WORLD? Your argument is defeated brother. That is why you refuse to mention Dan. 2 and Greece ruling the WHOLE WORLD. Dodging truths will not make facts go away brother. The DOTL starts in the Middle of the 70th week, and God's TROUBLES last for 1260 days, not one year, its not even a debatable point brother. The Asteroid is God's Wrath and it takes out the USA and allows the Anti-Christ to go forth Conquering. As I stated above, that's who they are, this Nimrod thing has to be from some cult. The King of the Bottomless Pit, is Apollyon a Demon Spirit who gets released at the First Woe. He is the Scarlet Colored Beast with NO CROWNS in the 7 Heads or 10 Horns, meaning on THIS EARTH he is under Satan, and is not a human. His Kingdom was the Bottomless Pit. The Deadly Wound is about Rome, which is healed when the Anti-Christ Conquers Israel. You need to get over that, I don't know who told you that brother, but it is not of God. God Bless

I just proved in both those verses we all ARISE to go be with Jesus at the same time. The only Gentile people who serve with Jesus during the 1000 year reign, are the Martyrs of the 70th week, anyone who does not die will still be human beings repopulating the earth. The Barley are Pre Trib. the Jews are the Wheat. In other words they will be taken unto heaven with him at the exact same time as us. No, it reads like I stated, you not comprehending it will not change my friend. No one will tell you different, this is your own world view, no one buys this. Wow, has no one ever taught you how to study the bible brother via prophesy, here a little there a little. The Wheat GROW TOGETHER with the Wicked Tares, the Church is not here on earth during the 70th week. Israel are THE WHEAT, Israel are THE WOMAN and Israel are the 144,000, they have THE FATHERS NAME on their forehead, meaning they are not the Bride of Christ, but the Bride of the Father. Nowhere does the bible say the Barley will grow with the wicked tares until the very end. You have to learn how to put scriptures together in order to get answers. Their is the FIRST RESURRECTION of the living in Christ/God, and the 2nd RESSURECTION, of the Wicked. The TIMING MATERS NOT OE BIT, except that on e comes 1000 years after Jesus' 2n d coming, all the First Resurrection can happen over a broad period of time, as in 7 years, but it is STILL the First Resurrection, TYPE. You get bogged down in timing things which God shakes His head at, He lives in ALL TIME AT ONCE. And only Rev. 8, 9 and 16 are real time chapters as per the 42 months of God's Wrath, the rest after chapter 8 are Parenthetical Citation Chapters. They have a unique overview of certain events that happen during that same 42 month period of time, which equals God's 42 months of Wrath. Rev. 11 is the Two-witnesses full ministry of 1260 days that ends 75 days before the 2nd coming BECAUSE........they are the 1335 Blessing seen in Dan. 12. Rev. 12 is Satan chasing Israel (Woman) for 1260 days !! Rev. 13 is the Anti-Christ/Beast ruling for 1260 days. Rev. 14 is the Harvest Chapter, we see the 144,000 who ARE Israel, and thus are the Wheat Jesus spoke about, not the Church. The Church is seen in a FLASHBACK in vs, 14 that is why Jesus thrusts in the sickle to harvest from UPON A CLOUD !! The Angel Harvests the Wicked Grapes. Rev. 17 deals with FALSE RELIGION (the Harlot) during the Beast and his 10 Kings 42 month rule, vs. 12 says the 10 Kings rule ONE HOUR with the Beast, well how long does the Beast rule? 42 months or 1260 days. See how it all fits? Not admitting these are facts brother will just keep you not seeing the facts. Rev. 18 is God judging the WHOLE WORLD (Babylon) in ONE HOUR and in ONE DAY as verses 8 and 10 say, well ONE HOUR we just showed means 42 months and one day (the DOTL) also equals 42 months. Rev. 19 shows the Bride getting Married in Heaven and we know the Bride and Groom stay in the Fathers mansion for a full 7 days hence 7 years, then the Bride returns with Jesus to earth where the Marriage Supper is Armageddon. You are in error on my opinion it seems, the Church is in Heaven not on earth during the 70th week. But there is a Remnant Gentile Church as seen in Rev. 12:17 , who get saved during the 70th week. So, the Rev. 14:14 verses is a FLASHBACK SHOWING the Pre Trib. Rapture, just like Rev. 12:1-5 is a FLASHBACK showing Jesus the make child was birthed by Israel and Satan the Dragon tried to kill him as a baby. Rev. 14 must show ALL TE RIGHTEOUS who are raised, both the Church pre trib. and the Jews who are raised on the LAST DAY when Jesus returns, why would the Jews who are married to God need to be in Heaven during the Lambs Marriage unto his Bride the Church? BLINDNESS IS COME IN PART means what? THINK NOW. God would be an unjust God if He condemned all Jews to hell, so even after God rented the temple and forsook Israel for 2000 some odd years He only forsook them IN PART (As a Nation) not in full thus as individuals they could of course come unto Christ during the Church Age and be a part of the Bride of Christ. That is all IN PART means. Those not Jews who get saved during the 70th week will be the Remnant Gentile Church, still on earth. Brother I will show why this erroneous thinking is your fault, you do not wrap your mind around the full understandings of what this means, all you can see is Tribulation, and everything else goes dark, you never stop to ponder, can it fit this way, or hat way, can these who come out of great tribulation be speaking about church age tribulation. I have proven to you many times brother these can only b Church Age Saints IN HEAVEN with Jesus, in White Robes, as his Bride, they can not be 70th week Martyred Saints. Yet yo just keep on keeping on in that straight line or error. I will try once more to see if you might open you eyes this time to these proofs. So, who are these THOU KNOWEST, the came out of GREAT TRIBULATION, how many Christians died to spread the Gospel around the world my friend? How many did Rome slaughter, and burn? So, this can be referring to those who came out of Great Tribulation, which the Church Age was, and in John 16:13 we are told by Jesus that all time on earth is TRIBULATION. So, even though I make a very good case it could be, I never buy in on MAYBES !! So, I went to look fir added proofs. Can these be either 70th week Saints or Church Age Saints so we might never know, or is these a TELL that gives us 100% certainty this has to be one or another, that's how I roll brother. When we read about the Saints under the Altar (5th Seal which is Jesus telling us Dead Peoples Hearts who have not even died yet, the Seals are PROPHETIC) we see a KEY BIT OF INFO, we see Jesus gives them specific orders that gives us one of TWO TELLS that tells us those seen in Rev. 7:9-16 can only be Pre 70th Week Saints in Heaven, with White Robes on, meaning they/we are Jesus' bride, now I will prove 100% these never go to Heaven, and are still in their holding graves, when the 2nd coming happens. Rev. 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? (So, they were killed by men STILL LIVIMG on earth, hence they want revenge on those men) 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season,(42 Months WATCH WHY it has to be 42 months) until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.(BOOM, see it, they will not get revenge and MUST REMAIN in the grave/holding place until ALL OF THEIR Brothers on earth have been killed just as they were is fulfilled !! So, they CAN NOT go to Heaven during the 70th week Jesus says say, they MUST REMAIN in their grave/holding places, until the 2nd Coming) You can not miss this unless you want to miss it or dodge it. Now for part 2 that goes along with this thinking. When do we see these people RAISED UP? In Rev. 20:4 it specifically tells us they are raised AFTER THE 2nd Coming. Rev. 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them(Church who returns with Jesus): and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. So, we see JUDGMENT HERE, then we see those Martyrs f the 70th week getting Judged, ON EARTH, after the 2nd Coming, meaning they could not be and thus COULD NEVER BE, those seen in Heaven in Rev. 7:9-16 that is just you guys not looking at ALL THE INFORMATION my friend. I have proven those unto you dozens of times. So, WHAT FITS BEST? Those are the Church we saw in Rev. 4 & 5, seem again in Heaven, and they are said to have come out f GREAT TRIBULATION , and they/we did, ALL TIME on this earth is Tribulation, and millions of our brothers died to further te spread of the Gospel, but we feared not and we defeated the kingdom of hell by the Word of the Almighty God. Amen. You just do not grasp the THEMED Chapters. And thus in order to show the Pre 70th week Rapture/Harvest and the 2nd Coming HARVEST N ONE CHAPTER,, there has to be a FLASHBACK, you see Cinematic Flashbacks in movies and easily understand them, but when God authors one you can not se it..... Yes, and we are Raptured BEFORE the 70th week begins. The Jews thus can now be reached by Gid because the 70th week has started the Gentile Church Age (time of the Gentiles SERVICE) is come full No, the Jews are the 144,000 they have THE FATHERS name on their foreheads. The Grapes are the Wicked men of earth, be they Jew or Gentile. You do not understand this verse at all, IMMEDIATLY AFTER the Tribulation of those days FALL UPON MANKIND and the DOTL STARTS, the Sun & Moon goes Dark. THINK MAN, after Trump #4 we still have the Three Woes before the 7th Vial Brings Jesus. Jesus does not come back IMMEDIATELY AFTER the tribulation starts, but the Sun & Moon is darkened, then in verse 30 that is 1260 days later. All you can see is IMMEDIATELY AFTER, and you ail to see its talking about the Sun and Moon going dark, WELL YES......I know that, the First 3 Trumps (Fire......IMPACT of Asteroid and the FALLOUT bring Trump #4 THE DARKNESS or Dimming of the Sun and Moon. Verse 30 come LATER ON.........Zech. 14:2 and 3 has the same identical 1260 day JUMP by saying AND THEN....... You are conflating it all brother, you lets mere WORDS over power the facts in each case. No, the actual DOTL is Rev. 8, 9 and 16 everything else is Parenthetical Citation Chapters. I have explained the full book in one post, when you get to heave you will see I was not just guessing brother. God Bless.

You are down a deep rabbit-hole my brother, and none of that is of the bible. There can nor will be a worldwide kingdom, God has never stated that, that's just a very bad understanding by a lot of people (I admit) but still an error. For starters, thinking this through would let you know that 1/3 of the world will be set ablaze, because 1/3 of the worlds trees burn. Thinking more would tell us God's plan is to separate the New World and the Old World, and thus the fires are in the New World, the Americas is where the Asteroid hits and as at breaks apart it catches tress ablaze, thereby the catastrophic emergencies in the USA will mean our Gov. will not have time to be meddling in the E.U. Conquering of the Mediterranean Sea Region & Israel. The WHOLE EARTH being speaken about is always the Mediterranean Sea Region, that is why every Beast comes out of the Great (Mediterranean) Sea in Dan. 7, that is why Nebuchadnezzar and Alexander the Great was said to conquer the whole world (really EARTH) being spoken about, but the earth is only the Mediterranean Sea Region. In Revelation 13, we know its a further report on the Little Horn Beast as told in Daniel 7, so the WHOLE EARTH is still only talking about the Mediterranean Sea Region. In Dan 11:44-45 it says he hears bad tidings out of the East (China) and North (Russia). In the Magog & Magog war God destroys 5/6 of the Russian Army, why not 6/6 of the Arsenal ? Because they have Nuclear Weapons, as does China, no one man is ever going to conquer the WHOLE WORLD, its just not going to happen, its not feasible, and God never stated he would, the WHOLE EARTH is speaking about in and around the Meditteranean Sea Region (MSR), now REREAD Dan. 11:40-45, NAME the NATIONS mentioned, it says NO ONE bur Many Nations to get at Israel, then the Pleasant Land or Israel and Egypt/North Africa and two verses after it says HE COMES TO HIS END. Jesus will kill him, no other nations are ever mentioned, you guys take the WHOLE WORLD, and say it must be the WHOLE WORLD not the WHOLE EARTH around the MSR, I say it means the WHOLE EARTH around the MSR, and I have backing scriptures, in Dan. 2 Alexander the Great was also said to have Conquered the WHOLE WORLD (Earth) and we all know he never conquered China, India nor the Scythians (Modern day Russia) so THAT PROVES 100% it just means the MSR. Dan 2:39 And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth. You have to put it all together brother, you can never do this by leading with errant understandings, the WHOLE EARTH is designated by the 4 (7) Heads and 10 Horns, its always ONLY BEEN about Israel and the MSR nations, not the WHOLE EARTH. Look at every kingdom, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome AND the 10 that Arise out of the Fourth Beasts Head is COMPLETE Europe Reunited. He will have his path made straight, Satan knows these scriptures, that is why he waits for the Asteroid to take the USA out of the picture, and for God to destroy 5/6 of the Russian, Iranian and Turkish Armies. The UN coming together brother, not a chance, it's really just mesmerizing that anyone still thinks this could happen. There are Two Beasts the Little Horn/AC becomes THE BEAST when he Conquers, the False Prophet, a Jewish High Priest is the 2nd Beast. The TIE IN is Political, Israel joins the E.U. its not a Religious Covenant, but a Political Agreement (Covenant). When you get to heaven you are going to be kicking yourself, saying God sent me all the answers and I rebuffed them as untrue SIGH............ Men do not come back to life brother. The Little Horn will be a MAN born in Greece, of Assyrian lineage as per the Bloodline so says Isaiah 10, but he's born in Greece, thus that is why we get EVERY KING in Daniel 11. And Greece is in the E.U. fulfilling Dan. 8 No, they came out of the Fourth Beasts Head, not the WHOLE WORLDS HEAD. You are way down a hole brother, the Scriptures never point unto that. As soon as you are Raptured (Pre Trib) it will come to you in a flash, Rev. Man was 100 percent right

No, the Dead in Christ and those of us alive RISE AT THE EXACT SAME TIME, you are misinterpreting Paul's effort to reassure living Christians why their loved ones deaths was not a problem for God raising them up, some thought their loved ones would not make it to heaven because they had died. So, Paul puts on his spin machine (remember, I will be ALL THINGS unto ALL PEOPLE) and says, hey you dead loved ones will rise first (in other words a fraction of a second before those who are alive are CHANGED from living men unto Spiritual Beings without Sin Flesh) and we who are alive will BE CHANGED, and.....AND? Meet in the air to go be with Jesus. So, if you and your spouse walk in a Grocery store at the same time, and her foot beats yours in the door did she really go in first? No, you walked in together, Paul is spinning his Church here to take away their current fears that he knew were UNFOUNDED, these Letters were never written by Paul to be "Scriptures of God" Paul was merely trying to pump up his Church Members Faith, and take away their doubts & fears. All Church Members both Jew ad Gentile, both Dead & Alive will be raised at the Last Trump to go Marry the Lamb Jesus in Heaven, as we reside in the Fathers House 7 Years (like 7 days for a Jewish Wedding Tradition). 1 Cor. 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep(Die) , but we shall all be changed(From Humans to Spirit Men with no Sin Flesh which vs. 50 says CANOT enter Heaven), 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (At the SAME TIME) 1 Thess. 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then (At the same time) we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. We are all raised at the SAME TIME my beloved brother in Christ, the Jews who are not in the Church, however as a Nation, only repent during the 70th week, as Zech. 13:8-9 and 14:1 shows and as Rev. 7 shows (the 144,000) and as many other places show like Rev. 12 etc. etc. They are the Wheat, see Rev. 14:1 below. Rev. 14:11 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand(5 Million Jews who Repent or 1/3), having his Father's name written in their foreheads (Jews ONLY.........The Wheat of the Parable). Of course it is, you are getting way too bogged down in the Metaphor of these Harvests, I was the one who originally told you about the Barley Harvest years ago in a long post. The POINT is the Barley comes in before the Wheat and does not have to be Crushed in order to be SIFTED whereas the Wheat MUST FIRST be Crushed in order t be sifted. You are off on a timing tangent and you miss the point being made, Israel must go through the TRIBULATION, or be crushed in order to be Harvested by God, we the Church are not in need of being crushed as the Barley First Fruits because we are already ready for sifting, but why? Because we are of God already, we live by Faith, Israel are not of God yet, they will be (at least 1/3) but only during the 70th week do they repent, but some Jews are in the Church, so they were only blinded IN PART (as a Nation, not as individuals). So, I remember the posts and chatting with you 5 or 6 years ago, now you have went in a whole nother direction with it, and seems to have changed from Pre Trib. to something else. You misdiagnose them, Rev. 4:1 ENDS the Church Age (Rev. 2 & 3) and Rev. 14:14 is that very Rapture Event that had to be retold because Rev. 14 is THE HARVEST CHAPTER. Jesus shows how when he returns Israel (144,000......5 million Jews......1/3) will be with him in Jerusalem ruling for 1000 years in The Kingdom Age. So, Rev. 14:14 shows that Pre Trib. Rapture of the Church, Jesus Harvests them from upon a CLOUD, we go up to meet Jesus in THE AIR as those other verses above say. Nothing happens at the 6th Seal brother, you will find out once you made heaven someone enticed you into a cul-de-sac dead end road. The Righteous in Rev. 7 were Raptured Pre Trib. in the verses I cited, Rev. 4:1 and Rev. 14:14 is a flashback, because God gives us THEMED CHAPTERS, Rev. 14 is the Harvest Chapter. This is the Wicked Tares/Grapes, remember the parable, The Wheat (Jews) will grow TOGETHER with the Wicked Tares, and the tares will be bound up (killed) and BURNED LATER (at the 2nd Resurrection 1000 years later. Above we see Three Harvests, te Wheat or Jews who Repent, the Wicked Grapes who are harvested at the same time, and the Church who are Harvested at the Pre 70th week Rapture. No, they are PROTECTED, not killed. The Jews will serve with Jesus for 1000 years, so they are the Women who is protected, those Martyrs under the Altar are Gentiles who come unto Christ Jesus after the Rapture. You are chasing rabbits down holes my friend. Those coming out of the GREAT Tribulation (not THE tribulation) in Rev. 7 are the Pre Trib. Raptured Church. We came out of 2000 years of Great Tribulation where millions of our brothers were killed to further the Gospels reach unto the world. Rev. 15 and 16 should be one chapter. Its just the Angels readying the Vials to be poured out. No, the 1290 is the Midst of the week, not the exact middle, we ca all see that out of 7 years (2520 days) that 1260 is the exact middle not 1290 days. The Wrath of Gid begins 30 days after the AoD which is a SIGN for the Jews to Flee Juda, thus they have 30 days to flee, else why show them a sign to start with? Seal #6 is Jesus telling the Church in heaven what will soon come at the Fourth Trump. The Sun & Moon goes dark/dim. Man, whoever sent you down this never ending hole must have been convincing. Yes AFTER the Asteroid hits, IMMEDIATLY AFTERWARDS the Sun & Moon dims by 1/3 or Darkens, not after the 1260 days of Troubles END, but after they BEGIN !! THEN SHALL APPEAR (1260 days later) Jesus to end it all. We get the exact same TIME JUMP in Zech. 14:2-3. Zech. 14:1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh(the 1260 Asteroid Event seen in Rev. 8), and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Here is the exact same JUMP IN TIME.......... 3 Then(1260 days LATER just like Matt. 24:29 to 30 is a 1260 day JUMP) shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,... This is a FORETELLING of the coming Wrath seen in Rev. 8 via the Fourth Trumps DARKNESS, but the First Trumps FIRES causes it to eventually GET DARK (dim by 1/3). The untimely figs is Satan being cast down to earth with his Demons. The Tribulation BEGINS at the First Trump in Rev. 8. Jesus is FORETELLING of the Anti-Christs ACTIONS TO COME in Seals 1-5 and about God's COMING WRATH in vs. 6, both cover the exact same 42 month period of time. The 7th Seal however Opens these Scroll Judgments, that is why it is over in Rev. 8. The LAST TRUMP begins the 70th Week, its a different trump than the Revelation Trumps of wrath. No, the Jews repent late, that is why the Feast of Atonement comes AFTER the LAST TRUMP or Feast of Trumps. I just told you its like a predetermined history of the world as told by God. Harvest/Church Age followed by the end of the Church Age Harvest where the Feast of Trumps ends the harvest and announces the Feast of Atonement comes next, because Israel still has to repent after the Church is raptured pre trib., thus they can not be harvested until after they repent during the 70th week. Lastly, its not the same type of Harvest, we will have Glorious Bodies, they will still be earthly men, who will continue to have children. Thus Jesus rules over a Kingdom Age where Jerusalem is the center of the world for 1000 years. You are confused on this brother. Israel ATONES BEFORE the DOTL Falls, see Zech. 13:8-9 where the 1/3 repent, followed by...drumroll, The DOTL arriving in Zech. 14:1. God Bless

We get the end time little horn shown unto is in back to back chapters in Dan. 7 & 8. Both are indeed the End Time Anti-Christ. We get the Political Dynasty he arrives out of in Dan. 7, the Fourth Beasts Head (Rome) has 10 (Completion) Horns arise or the E.U. in full, matters not when, if it had 8 original states, or 25 plus as now, the number 10 is therefore ALWAYS CORRECT because it designates completion (The USA with 13 states were the complete USA as with 48 and we are still COMPLETE with 50, see my point? ). So, this Number 10 represents an End Time Kingdom (E.U.) and thus the Little Horn arising AMIDST the 1o means he is born in the E.U. and has his political position as the E.U. President. We can see the same kingdom arise, only the Church Age separates this kingdoms parameters and timelines, but for the most part it looks identical on the two maps below. The Fourth Beast = Rome The European Union or E.U. (10) is in Blue, (Below) they currently have Agreements (Covenant) with the Nations in Brown which run in 7 year cycles, Google it. So, in Dan. 11:40-43 go read who the King of the North (AC) conquers, its a play by play of the map below as the Anti-Christ/Little Horn conquers MANY COUNTRIES (to get at Israel as in Lebanon, Syria and Jordan), he then conquers Israel (Pleasant Land) and then Egypt and all of North Africa. He conquers Turkey (Selecus) also, that's one of THE MANY here also, but its more powerful presentation when shown in Dan. 8:9. So, thus now the E.U. President becomes THE BEAST. Meaning he will rule once again, after he has healed the Mortal Wound in which the Church gave a Wound to the Roman Beast. But HOW SO some may wonder? By turning Rome from a Beast into a Nation who turned unto God, who helped take Christianity to the ends of the earth via the Latin Vulgate Bible. Once the Anti-Christ reconquers the Mediterranean Sea Region, the Wound is HEALED. Now lets do Dan. 8:9 with a run up to verse 9. 8 Therefore the he goat (Alexander the Great or AtG) waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken(AtG); and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven (God gives us the Four Winds terminology for a reason). 9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn(End time AC see vs. 17 this is a dream about THE END), which waxed exceeding great(means he Conquers in that DIRECTION), toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. This above verse is what happens in Dan. 11:40-43, he conquers TOWARDS the East (Turkey or Seleucus) and TOWARDS the South (Egypt or Ptolemy) and TOWARDS Israel. Now you tell me which Direction that leaves to Conquer FROM? The Northwest Corridor only. So, God tells us this Little Horn HAS TO BE BORN amidst the 10 or in the European Union, AND Daniel 8:9 tells us he HAS TO Conquer towards the East (Turkey/Seleucus) and towards the South (Egypt/Ptolemy) and towards Israel. So, that leaves him conquering from the Northwest portions of the Four Generals Map which can only mean he has to come out of Greece (Cassander) which is in the E.U. Thus he has to be able to fulfil both prophesies, and thus only a person born in Greece can fulfill these Prophesies in the end times.