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I am not a preterist and none of the others. And definitely Jesus was not yet born. His mother has to be born first.
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Ezekiel who was a Priest had a lot to think about. At thirty years old found himself in the Captivity of Babylon and he couldn't dispense with his service in the Temple like all the other Priest in his family past generations had done since the time of Moses back in the Sinai Covenant when the Lord gave to Moses the Levitical book, God's instructions to the Priest. Ezekiel must have been overwhelmed with thoughts that He will never may have the chance to dispense his duties in the Temple and this is what actually happened to him and the to other contemporary Priest whether in Babylon or in Judaea. And what about his children how can they inherit from him their duties in the Temple when He did not have any. He was the heir of his Father's service in the Temple. But he did not receive his inheritance in the Temple, he never did and he had nothing to live to his children. He reached the age of the Service to the Temple he was a Priest without a Temple. A Priest in name only. Ezekiel never served in the Temple and His children also will received nothing from him and they will leave nothing to their children that's how it looked like. They were in mourning. They were singing the blues and it was not their fault. It was their distance fathers fault. They were the children of their iniquity. They were born in the iniquity of their distance Fathers. They could not celebrate their religious Calendar and present them selves to the Lord in His Temple. They were a new kind of people of God. God sent them away from Him and His Land and eventually God left His Land and His Temple. The Temple was still there and the people continue to do what they were doing but the Lord had left. His presence had left the Temple before the Babylonians enter the Temple and the Temple was taken by the Babylonians. And the Babylonians did something they took all the Holy Vessels with them and Kept them they did not defiled them. Because they knew they were Holy unto the Lord and they did not want to have the wrath of the Lord fall on them. Because they Knew that they were witnessing the wrath of the Lord God on his own people. This is it. They first removed the Holy Vessels and then destroyed the Temple. And they brought and kept the Vessels to their country. Then the visions to Ezekiel began at the time he was mature to have began his service as a Priest in the Temple. Which will not happen for him and his children but it will happen for his children's children. The study of the destruction of the second Temple begins NOW. We have something to compare how it happened the first time when the Lord intended to have a New Temple build before the 1st Temple was destroyed. The Holy Vessels were not destroyed. They were kept in storage and secured by the people who destroyed the Temple. Because the Holy Vessels cannot be duplicated and the things in the Ark cannot be duplicated. I don't know about the things in the Ark, which were the testimony of something and what happened to them. Was the Manna in the Golden vessel still good? And were the buds in Aaron's staff still good? But the Ark was preserved and it was part of the second Temple. And the Lambada was preserved and the holy oil to last for one day was preserved. And we have the testimony of the Lord who blessed the oil to last for a week. The Lambada was still burning for a week with the one day oil. We have the testimony of the visions to Ezekiel. How it happened as in the visions to Ezekiel. About the new roots of the Preist who will do the service in the Temple and the vision that the Old Priesthood Family was cut off but their roots remained to do another service to the Lord. As it was in the vision to Ezekiel it happened about the Lord returning and taking His place in the Temple. Just as in the visions to Ezekiel the Glory of the Lord The Shekinah enter the second Temple exactly as it was in the visions to Ezekiel.
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Thank you. You are the reason I read Ezekiel. You have raised some issues at hand and we need to discuss some of the things you have pointed out especially in your last post. I am delighted for the first two words but I want to discuss your first paragraph that follows. Because I do not see the need for another Temple all together. Because it can't served the propose the the other Temples served. And there is enough evidence to show that the vision of Ezekiel it has Served its purpose. And to point to the facts that we have in the scriptures that show that God never asked for a third Temple. And he let us know that what happened on the day of the dedication of the second Temple it will never happen again and that he will never make his abode in another Temple
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First of all I have to comment you for your swift responses. And you are very polite. Mark 14:58 reads, "We heard him say, 'I will destroy this temple made with hands, and in three days I will build another not made with hands.'" God is not without a Temple here on earth because the Temple in Jerusalem was flattened to the ground. The disciples were not teaching that at all and to the contrary they were led to moved away from Jerusalem. And they never missed the old Temple for worshiping God. Because they understood that we are not left without a place to worship like the Jews did. Because they understood that we worship God in Spirit and in truth. That the Spirit of God has moved in the New Temple. The Holy Spirit in us. Jesus foretold who will destroy the Temple. The Romans. When you see the beast of desolation standing at the Temple...Jesus foretold that the Temple will loose its its sanctity. That the Temple will began common. The Romans enter the Temple and God and cause the desolation. We are the Holy Land of God. We are the Jerusalem of God. God is not without a Jerusalem and without a Temple and without a Priesthood. The Priesthood of God in New Covenant is the Priesthood in the order of Melchisedec. A Royal Priesthood. The disciples were the Royal Priesthood. The Temple of God's Spirit. As it Happened in the Day of Pentecost.
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The New Jerusalem is where the Temple of God is.
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The New Jerusalem. We must have first the New Jerusalem.
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Rev 19 “Write, therefore, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later. >>>>> What John had seen so far it must be written in the previous verses to verse 19. Beginning from verse 11. To 18. In a few words John saw the seven Golden lampstands and Jesus in a glorious appearance described within the passage standing among them and In his right hand he held seven stars. And he also said something important to John. At this point we know what John had seen and now from verse 19 forwards to the end of chapter 3 we can know what happened till the time Jesus finished telling John his instructions to the seven Angels of the churches. We learn the seven Golden lampstands represented the seven churches and the seven stars represented the seven Angels of the seven churches. we let know what may happen to the seven stars and the people in the churches but we do not know how they responded and what happened there after after Jesus Christ came to see how they were doing. We were not told but we were told what may happen to them according to their obedience to Jesus Christ instructions. Verse 11 to 18. 11 which said: “Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.” 12 I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and among the lampstands was someone like a son of man,[d] dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. 14 The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. 15 His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. 16 In his right hand he held seven stars, and coming out of his mouth was a sharp, double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance. 17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades. Rev 1:19 "Write, therefore, what you have seen - what is now and what will take place later." (Rev 1:19) Rev 4:1 “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after these things.” (Rev 4:1)
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John 3:16 16 God loved the world so much that He did not spare His own Son that who ever believes in Him shall not perished but have eternal life. He made his Son the Propritiation for our sins and our iniquities. John the Baptist said to his disciples as he show Jesus passing by. "The Lamb of God who take s away the sin of the world. John 1:29 New Living Translation 29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!
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Did Jesus say that? The elements will be burned not the earth it self. Jesus is the King of the Earth and the earth is his and he already has made everything new. In all things on the earth and below the earth and all the things in Heaven above. Did the disciples teach that God's dwelling place is among the people? Did they teach that God he dwell with them? Did the teach that they are God's people? ( not referring to the Jews but to anyone who believes in Jesus Christ) Did they teach that God is with them and that God is their God. Did they teach to anyone who believes in Jesus Christ that God is their God? . 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” This has already happened. This is what Jesus promised to people in the Sermon of the Mountain.
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Did Jesus say that? The elements will be burned not the earth it self. Jesus is the King of the Earth and the earth is his and he already has made everything new. In all things on the earth and below the earth and all the things in Heaven above.
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If you disagree then we need to discuss our positions. Back in the days of Noah something happened unexpectedly and suddenly. But not for all. Noah was warned and he knew about it. The other people they had not a chance as repentance was not preached to them. The invitation to be included in the Ark was not given to them. And they went on living as usual. They were let know by Noah that something will happen but they did not believed him and they had good reasons not not to believe him and they went on living as usual. They were judged by God as they were going on living. The sentence was already announced. They were in their disobedience towards God. And they knew it. They were condemned because no any remedy was provided by God. They were born in their sins.
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1st Thessalonians 5:1-11. Is written to Thessalonians about 2000 years ago A city by the sea in Northern modern Greece. Which is an Ancient City. And is written by a Disciple of Jesus Christ to believers in Jesus Christ. Verse 4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5 You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. There are many Days of the Lord. They were many days in the Old Testament and there are many days in the New Testament and not all of them are the same. In v.4 Paul said that this day will not surprise you like a thief because you are the children of the light and the Lord is our next of Kin. And He had died for the forgiveness of our sins. This day should not surprise you like a thief. Because this day is not a day of fear because you are the childreth of the light and you are the children of the day. You are the repented children and you are not afraid to meet Jesus Christ. Because Jesus Christ died for us 9 For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. 10 He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him. Abraham knows my day and he rejoiced. And all the people who were with Him. But specifically it was said this about Abraham because God had given him a promise that Abraham will be reunited with his other children in Jesus Christ. That day must be a very special day for Abraham. Abraham knows my day and rejoiced. The Day of the Lord is a day for rejoicing for his obedient children. AMEN
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Luke 17:20 Jesus is teaching about the coming of the Kingdom of God. He said that the Kingdom of God is not observed. Is not something that the people can give directions and say here it is or there it is. The Kingdom of God is not a physical kingdom like all the other Kingdoms on earth. That takes care that the Kingdom of God is not established in some specific location that someone can travel and visit the Kingdom of God. Jesus said the Kingdom of God is a Spiritual Kingdom. Jesus prayed that your Kingdom come on earth as it is in Heaven. In Heaven we do not have physical matter. And He said on Earth inclusive the whole earth. 20 The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, 21 nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is in your midst.”[c]
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Back in the context of Exodus 3. This is about that time and before the Cross. At the Cross with the death of Jesus Christ everything has changed is not the same as before. That time in Exodus when God said to Moses. He said I am the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob but before that he said I am the God of your Fathers. The Patriarchs of the twelve trives to include all of them. He said I am the God and He named them of people who had die but even though He is still their God. That includes their ancestors and them. After their death they were not with him as they were with their Father Abraham. Whom God set him apart from the rest of the world not only while he lived but also after death. They were in a separate place after their death down Streams in Sheol in the place of the dead (where Jesus went after he died in the place of the dead and that's where he Jesus was raised from the dead. Just to set the record straight. They were still God's people in their own place apart from the dead of the rest of the world. Like in Egypt they were living apart from the Egyptians in the Land of Goshen. God was still their God after their death. And they were in the place of the dead. Now about all the other Gods of the world. They were the Gods of the people who worshiped them and only while they lived. Their relationship was alive only while they lived and ended when they die. The cord was broken when they die. Like they were care by their God's like a fetus is care by his mother's cord and when they died the cord was broken and they were born to the God of the dead. Their Gods were nourishing them till they die for the God of the dead. Only earthly relationship. They are only earthly Gods. Hope that shows the distinction between the other Gods and the God of Abraham at that time and before the Cross of Jesus Christ. After his death things are not the same has changed. God included only Abraham their Patriarch and Isaac the one who God apointed to bring forth Jacob who brought forth the twelve Patriarhs the twelve tribes. He said only Abraham and Isaac because all the other children of Abraham were excluded and He said Jacob because the other son of Jacob was excluded. And with Jacob God rename him Israel not Ismael because he was the first born of something new. Because at that time of his renaming Israel all the children of Jacob and their children's children became heirs of the blessings of Abraham and all of them after their death went to be with their Father Abraham and God was still their God after their death. The God of the dead was off limits to where they were. They were the people the Nation of God still after their death. This all changed with the death of Jesus Christ on the Cross. The beginning of the preeminence of the Glorious Jesus Christ and the beginning of his rain as the Lord of Lords as God Almighty. Every knee shall bow down before him. The King of the Kingdom of God and the King of all the Kings of the Earth as per his Testimony.
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Let's discuss a few things that came out of your posting. And we look in the History, in the past and we follow up in after the death of Jesus Christ on the Cross where he shed the blood of the New Covenant when ALL THINGS ARE MADE NEW. We look into origins of things to understand how they have changed with the death of Jesus Christ on the Cross. As believers in Jesus Christ as we understand the preeminence of Jesus Christ we look back and discuss how things were before and how gradually progress. We are looking from after the Cross after the Lamb of God was provided to the descendants of Issac. God wanted Issac alive because from his descendants God will provide the promise Lamb of God to provide the blood of the New Covenant which means that he had to die. Some else from Issac will die in the place of Issac and by the hands of his own next of Kin and his elders. Like Abraham and Isaac. The chosen people. At that time were just the two of them. To have Issac we must have Abraham first. The same will happen later on the people who will put Jesus on the Cross to die they would be old enough to be his father. It tells that the Land of God will die at a younger age and not as an old man. And without having a wife and without having any descendants. Abraham would have said to himself. Uoaou what was about to do. By being obedient to God I almost Kill the son of the promise whom God had chosen from him to bring forth the promise Son the promise Lamb of God. John the Baptist had gotten to know something the scribes did not teach that the Messiah was the promise lamb of God who will take away the sin of the world and not just the sin of the Jews. This one John got it but he did not know how till a later time. Certainly he understood that after his death when he was sent to Abraham with the same mission having the witness of Knowing that Jesus was the Son of God from Heaven at the time when he baptized Jesus at the Jordan River. When John found himself in the Bossom of Abraham he knew that his mission was to continue and prepared the People there for the coming of Jesus Christ. He and Abraham knew or understood that Jesus the ordained Christ to be by God had to die first. That it was the only way for Jesus to descend to them. Because that what happened to them they were there only after they died first. And John had to go before the Lord and prepared him for his coming to fulfill the promise made to Abraham. Jesus before the Cross said that Abraham knows about the day, my day when I will come to Him and the others and He rejoice knowing that.