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Thank you for your kind assessment @Gracejj...I do appreciate it...now I will finish my explanation...and perhaps we will have further discussion if necessary? It might be prudent to say that “humans” were created in a way as to house spirits…there is the “human spirit, the Holy Spirit, and evil spirits” just to shed some light on what we are discussing here. That being said…it is possible as we know…for a human to be possessed of an evil spirit…the question is…“Can a believer be possessed?” The Greek word translated as “demon-possessed” is G1139 “daimonizomai” which is defined as…to be demon-possessed or to be under the power of a demon…this describes individuals who are “possessed or influenced” by demons. It implies a condition where a person is “under the control or significant influence of a demonic entity,” often resulting in physical, mental, or spiritual afflictions. This term is distinct from mere temptation or oppression, indicating a deeper level of demonic influence. Now the scriptures...especially the New Testament are replete with reference to demons and demon possession…so anyone with a disciplined reading and studying habit should be familiar with them…their presence…their actions and how they operate…if not just look again. They are referenced as “evil spirits, idols, false gods, fallen angels and demons” and perhaps there are others. They are spirit beings from the realm of darkness and evil…the dark heavenly [spiritual] realm…as Paul teaches specifically in Ephesians. The fact that they are cloaked in “invisibility” [spirit] adds to their ability to be a menace to humanity. I think it is safe to say that they are arranged in some organized form and that some are yet “imprisoned” for future release. Consider Paul on the matter…[emphasis mine]…“Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil.  (12)  For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.” Ephesians 6:11-12 NASB Looks like a “demonic military command structure” of sorts in my mind…if that is so…then they have a strategic vision or mission and a tactical means to carrying out their missions against humans for sure...hence Paul's admonition. Now…their “power” is “deception” made up of…lies, propaganda, gaslighting, magic, sickness, insanity, mute, deaf and for those who read the scriptures…they are masters at “twisting the meanings of any passage”….and other nefarious means to blind the “eyes” of humans…both ”believers and unbelievers” alike…from their “schemes” and from the Truth of Christ. So…”demonic possession” as the scriptures declare…tell us that they manifest in the following manner…“ill, violent, mute, blind, wicked, insane, unclean, naked, self and verbally abusive, and there may be others?” An intentional look at these “manifestations of the demonic” reveals its impact upon humans.  The effects of demon possession that I listed above…upon humanity…as you can see can be…“mental, emotional, physical and spiritual”…and this is all accomplished…through an invisible evil spirit(s)…generally manifested via the flesh of its victim. With the definition of “demon-possession”…defined as including both…“possessed or influenced”…and…”under the control or significant influence of a demonic entity” and the physical manifestations as I listed earlier including…“ill, violent, mute, blind, wicked, insane, unclean, naked, self and verbally abusive, and there may be others”…one needs to ask themselves…have I ever seen a “believer” exhibiting any of these behaviors? Perhaps one has seen a manifestation these behaviors in themselves as a “believer.” I’ll leave this brief deconstruction of “Can a believer be possessed?” right here for whosoever will…choose for yourselves what you will believe. Now…there would be no way for an evil spirit to ever be able to “possess or influence” the human spirit that is filled with the Holy Spirit…nor would they ever desire to do so. However there is the “psuché” or the human “soul” which if you will remember is the “seat of the mind will and emotions.” Here…in the soul…is where an evil demonic spirit can exert some “control or significant influence…i.e. possession” upon the “mind, will and emotion” of a believer. They can indeed affect the mind or thinking of a believer via “deception”…it has probably happened to all of us at some point. If…it can affect ones thinking in any way…then it most certainly can affect the “will” of a believer. For example “deception can lead to apostasy” which is where a “believer falls away” and it is by ones “deceived mind” that one’s “will” allows or causes them to “fall away.” In reality…the emotions are also going to be deeply affected by the deceived mind and will as well…there is so much to this. Suffice it to say…that the “soul of a believer” can be susceptible to “demonic possession and influence.”  Hope this helps someone. Tatwo…

1. Talk about the third temple if the third temple should not be built ? will you consider one fo the things that can extend the lifetime of the world ?   2. Stop the mark of the beast ? make law that you cannot use mark ( chip or for some currency ) tell people the mark is on your hand and if people start tatooing or have the chip that they can remove it ?  

How much sufferment did you pass to be a christian ? If you realized so much sufferment and people suffered so you be saved would you like it they be saved too and realize they could be saved too like you were saved ? I know the story of soldier who went to war came back to civilian life had to go thru the tests of life and he went alcholic and lost money and his job. He went to church and found his wife and had to fight 7 years and that's just some stories and you know many people who all had to go thru their tests and God gave them. He wanted people to be saved and dedicated to preach the word. I know it is not easy and you want your family to be saved and friends. They will all say anything to avoid been baptized because they prefer the world and sin. They finally change until tragedy happens or something in their life helps find God. But they dont' want to find God becuase they don't need him. They are perfect without him and life is better if you don't have God telling about your errors in life. But what end times is coming and if it happens you will see a lot of them go and they will not be there in heaven ;-;. Some of us who are old 60's year old or 70's will say they decided their life and cannot save their family they wish they could before. We cannot go back and change things no more. Their are the 40's year olds or 30's olds who say that God will do the miracle and wait and don't do nothing. Then some of the younger generation say we can't do anything everyone decided their life we have to respect it and continue how the world is because it is order and it is tradition. Well people the youngs ones fall for that and don't realize their were many who had to go and hard tests. Break rules in life and go thru hard tests to do what Jesus wants to save his people. And this will bring many debates but what I want is to discuss ways to bring more christians put politics if you want and any theories you can come up with to save people to be in christ and delay the end times the most ? What will be part of God's plan stretching time and creatings solutions to world promblems and obeying his plan to do God's plan with love, faith, and wisdom ? Got 4 and 5 plans creating social programs or building more churches. But what will you put to help economies, giving jobs, and giving more christians or stopping such events of end times like the rise of the antichrist ?  

I've have studied scripture for more than 20 years now and read and seen pastors explaining the end times and seen protestant end times explained by Witnesses of Jehova, Adventist, and Pentecostal. Also seen Catholic church end times explained can we delay the end times to save more people ? We cannot stop God's will I agree God ends this world their is too much violence and death ! But still their so many of gentiles and people who still don't know the word of God and are not saved. We are in an age were television and radio can get anywhere. And preaching the word can save millions of life and on this planet their are more than 2 billion christians and it could be good if we can get to 4 billion or 5 billion. Really would like that then the end can come. But reality the bible says we do not know the hour or time when Jesus arrives but we have signs from revelations and we know he is coming and closer of this world ends and Jesus arrival to save this world will be God's will. But if we go right now to end times their will be 2 billion at most saved that is a good number but we do remember that Earth's population there are 8 billion people alive and that number ;-; 6 billion could be judged and will not enter the kingdom. It hurts me to see 6 billion cannot enter and people you know will not enter the kingdom. God is good that we have so many that are believers and perhaps it could be that 3 billion or 4 billion get saved the most we do not know. And some of you will say it's okay they decided their life it's their fault they cannot enter. It is not fair to say that when so many suffered and so many died so people can be saved by Jesus Christ. We just say they made their decision but those christians that became christian thru hard times they went thru drugs had hard tiems and their family suffer and sacrifice everything for them know more love was giving to them and God gave more and some of them want more people because they know they have been tricked and the world fools ya. Some pastors out there want more christians because they know Jesus wanted all of them of them and he's blood covers all of them. He asked us to save all of them but because of our own ego's and fears we don't want to. Some women I know in my church wants all of them to be saved because she didn't went thru drugs but got thru divorce and family promblems and realized how much people suffer and people don't realize the sufferment ?

Think about it: your drowning man is being saved by another man. In God's plan of redemption, man cannot save man, only God is able to save man.  Your drowning man example proves you reject the complete and absolute sovereignty of God's grace in regenerating the dead spirit of man. Your erroneous claim that you made a choice to be saved by choosing to have saving faith is, again, denying God's sovereignty.  You altogether reject the truth that the saving faith you have is a gift from God that you received from God the moment God brought your dead spirit to life.  Man cannot even begin to think about saving himself unless God gives man's dead spirit life.